MSU Suing ESPN Over FOIA Request
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2017/05/02/msu-sues…
Basically, ESPN filed a FOIA request with MSU "seeking all police reports containing allegations of sexual assault since December 10, 2016," and MSU withheld some of the documents, claiming that the Ingham County Prosecutor specifically asked that those names not be released until the decision to bring charges (or not) has come. They're obviously seeking the names of the three accused/suspected football players in the long-lingering January case.
I am not an expert on FOIA statutes, but it seems unlikely to me that MSU will win this case. Can a large state institution really withhold information because a local government official asks them to do so? I could be wrong, but that seems not right to me...
about 3-9 fire retardant couches.
*Keepbeatingthatdeadhorse
Oh wow. I didn't know about that until now.
March 30th 2017: Prosecutor's office assures that there is no missing evidence.
April 3rd 2017: Just kidding, there's 7 missing rape kits.
I get that the MSU police is different than the sheriff's office, but when the prosecutor's office already lied once it's easy to doubt anything they say.
has done and is doing EVERYTHING and ANYTHING to cover this up
I think they are desperately trying to get these guys back on the field because they are dead meat without them.
There might be 0-12 reasons to fire Mork if they play this season without those guys.
Going backwards from a 3-9 season will be fun to watch
Ingham County prosecutor's office is a mess. First, they have DA getting prostitutes. Next, they replace him with a super high-profile politican. Finally, the party nominates someone with limited experience as a prosecutor....
around the MSU nether regions if they truly opened the kimono.
One shudders even going there
This adds a layer of perspective we wouldn't have without her courage to pen these letters. Even without the football "situation", these are an indictment on MSU as an institution. This is the definition of "lack of institutional control" by way of apathy. Sad.
Sandusky and JoePa level atrocity.
Those letters are scathing indictments of the administration at MSU - more so than the WaPo editorial that renewed the national conversation about these atrocities. Not only should a big chunk of MSU's administration be shown the door, the lawyer who wrote that tone deaf piece of shit message to "the MSU Community" should be broomed (unless it's a very early practitioner, in which case whoever put a newbie in charge of that task should be broomed).
William Strampel and Lou Ana Simon are at Penn State levels of lack of oversight, and should be recognized as such. Let's remember their names, so that their misdeeds aren't forgotten as time marches on. They deserve ostracism, and we should do our part to not let either be mentioned without bringing up that they sided with their buddy Larry Nassar rather than believe separate accounts of Nassar essentially fisting little girls who trusted him.
For those curious, there's another recent article in Deadspin about just how fucked up US Gymnastics is:
http://deadspin.com/the-u-s-gymnastics-system-wanted-more-medals-and-crea-1794525855
But Penn State has reaped precious little of what it has sown. It largely remains a culture of denial, and its treasured football program merely had a couple of year speed bump.
if this is incompetence or highly orchestrated negligence? Either way the problem seems to run wild in the university/AD and the Ingham county prosecutor's office.
I am assuming that the only ones who can fire the president are the regents, and I am also assuming they are sparty slappies (I think most regents are of their respective universities). So her removal is unlikely unless there is real negative national publicity. It's shameful that it would take more than what has already occurred with the Nassar stuff, and yet I am not surprised.
I tend to think Simon's thought process was: "ugh, this issue ..... I don't really want to deal with it. What I will do is cross my fingers and hope this goes away on its own."
That's a pretty lousy "strategy", but Simon wouldn't be the first (nor will she be the last) person to have such a strategy in instances like this.
The MSU regents are sort of doing the same thing here. I'd bet that Simon WILL eventually either get fired or resign (at the behest of the regents). But that won't happen until the pressure gets ratcheted up a bit (which I think is inevitable here - this isn't going away).
President Simon, you had some very strong and very appropriate words for officials at Penn State who allowed an abuser like Jerry Sandusky to walk free.
And then now that it happened at MSU, she says such predators are "virtually impossible to stop"?! How utterly appalling.
MSU should just cut their losses and boot these 3 individuals off the team. The longer it lingers the more damage it will cause, but as like others have said, they are doing everything in their power to get these 3 guys back on the field.
I get why MSU would want to take the CYA approach, especially after what Minnesota went through last year, but it seems there are better alternatives. It seems they could acquiesce to the FOIA, and simply say "the individuals in question are innocent until proven guilty. However, due to school policy, while the investigation is being concluded, they are suspended from team activities."
This extended fight to keep names out of the public view (that are going to get out anyways) is starting to paint them in a light that is not helping their public image.
I get protecting kids names until charges are filed, but it starting to sound like MSU is going full Baylor. You never want to go full Baylor.
I will admit it -- I have a shamefully strong curiosity to know more. However, let's await judgement for all parties. MSU is right to want a court order IF the prosecutor asked them to wait.
When we know more, it might be that there is a good explaination or the prosecutor or MSU are guilty of something.
A good explanation you ask? If a plea bargan is being considered, I feel that the views of alleged victims should be consdered by prosecutors. If alleged victims and alleged perps differ on what they are willing to compromise on, negotiations can take appreciable time.
OTOH, what has happened may be inexcusable, and the guilty parties should be held accountable once details come out.
And right after their president's (non) apology
not sure about how the rest of you feel, but this is a win-win from my view.
I don't like ESPN. I don't like MSU. Not sure there are any winners here lol.