MSU Snowflakes Thread: Defense

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on

This will be your thread for snowflakes and hot takes regarding the defense and defensive playcalling against MSU.

LSAClassOf2000

October 17th, 2015 at 7:50 PM ^

Well, the bright spot here might have been run defense - Michigan State only managed to net 58 yards on the ground on 33 attempts, although this is in part thanks to Connor Cook being sacked a few times. All the same, the overall average is 1.76 yards per attempt, but take Cook out of the totals and you have 81 yards on 29 attempts, which is 2.79 yards per attempt and still respectable, of course.

Pass defense? Well, Cook went 18 of 39 for 368 yards. That's 20.44 yards per completion, or 9.44 yards per attempt. 

Rafiki

October 17th, 2015 at 8:45 PM ^

Take out the 80 yard fullback play and those pass defense numbers look very different. I think the defense looked very good tonight. Definitely some mistakes but to hold that offense which when it plays at its full potential (which it did tonight) is very good was a good sign for the D. A combination of elite QB and Oline like that is something only the best teams have and we played them very well. Fix those penalties (some were BS) and the few mistakes and the D will be hard to beat.  

MGoBlue96

October 17th, 2015 at 9:20 PM ^

With the exception of that last MSU possession, Cook had too much time for most of the game. Kinda disappointing, expected the d-line to put alot of pressure on Cook consistently.

alum96

October 17th, 2015 at 10:27 PM ^

Agree.  Until Henry went off on the last drive the pash rush was below par.  Very disappointing considering the hype and the fact Kieler was hurt coming into the game and got hurt again 1st series and Conklin was coming off injury and Jack Allen was out.  Those are their 3 best linemen and we struggled to get pressure with the front 4.  If they were all healthy it seems like we would have gotten nothing in the pash rush if that is all we could get vs a "banged up" line.

I disagreed with the philosophy of letting Cook stand back there without pressure and not bringing a 5th guy to blitz more often.  Almost every blitz led to a failed pass play.  rutgers blitzed 3 of the 4 quarters last week with success.....and the 1 quarter they did not bitz MSU scored 14 pts.  We chose to rarely blitz which I dont like when you face a good QB - even Manning and Brady suffer under pressure.  Yes you give up some plays by doing that but we did that anyhow. 

That said MSU's McDowell Calhoun andd Thomas got pressure just rushing 4 guys a lot against our OL and we did not return the favor.

I thought the secondary was fine - Cook dropped dimes on Lewis to Burbridge and then we got lucky Kings had bad hands on 2 plays.  But if you dont pressure the QB you cant expect secondary to hold up. 

rush D was excellent.

maracle

October 17th, 2015 at 10:17 PM ^

Anyone think Lewis played pretty decently today despite being their main target? It seemed like Cook was really putting up perfect throws to beat decent coverage with little separation.



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samdrussBLUE

October 18th, 2015 at 12:42 AM ^

We have a mediocre offense and an above average defense. No one can dispute that. Have fun. Try to live through the weekend.



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CTSgoblue

October 18th, 2015 at 7:29 AM ^

I'm really curious to hear how Jourdan Lewis grades out on this.  From  my seats, it looked like Connor Cook dropped some beautiful passes in there.  A few plays where Lewis probably should have gotten his head around.  But let me just drop this on you...

He had SIX pass breakups in that game, which ties the Michigan record (w/Marlin Jackson in that 2002 Washington Game).  He's now at 14 for the season, good for 4th all-time...with lots of the season left to go.  Kid is a beast, but Burbridge is just sick and Cook had some awesome ball placement.  Just my two cents.

FieldingBLUE

October 18th, 2015 at 9:13 AM ^

Biggest concern on the FB play was a lack of apparent effort from Lewis to get to him. Seemed Lewis should have speed to pin runner to sideline but he appeared not to be running full speed. Haven't watched replay yet so snowflake from the seats.



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Jimmyisgod

October 18th, 2015 at 9:27 AM ^

They had 386 yards with several big drops by their receivers. The D played poorly for what we've become used to. And yeah, Cook was fantastic last night. I was extremely impressed, you rarely see a college QB who is capable of making the throws he made over and over last night. He always threw the ball where only his receiver had a chance to catch it, even when thy were covered. Most pro QBs can't do what he did last night. The D line stuffed the run, but got little pressure most of gene night. That Conklin stopped anyone he was lined up against. We should have attackedngheir hobbled RT more. Lewis, Morgan, and Henry were all outstanding. The safeties were bad though, including Jabrill.