Michigan Linebackers Exposed

Submitted by Brandon_L on

After reading some of the free PFF (Pro Football Focus) free college football content as I do every week and I highly recommend this site to anyone who really likes to read in depth analysis and they pointed out the obvious, 11 Missed tackles at the second level of the Michigan defense allowed the Iowa Offense to move the ball on the ground without every really needing to throw the ball on longer down and distances. 

Link to PFF 

Here are some of the stats from the link:

  • Lewis and Stribs allowed a combined 14 yds. This was a big A++
  • Michigans defense had 11 missed tackles in this game. Big F considering how well the hawkeyes tackled the entire game. 
  • Gedeon and Peppers were both subpar. 

Michigan was on skates at times on defense as you can see in my example below. Click link if video not available. 

Michigan was in base 4-3 or if you consider peppers a secondary player who was covering the slot during this play, we could say 4-2. Never the less it looks like Tyree Kinnell is lined up over the TE on the right side of the O-line and left side of the defense. Stribs is right behind Kinnell and this is the direction Iowa attacked. 

Peppers on the slot was a non-factor. The push of the Oline with perfect downhill man blocking and great second level blocking by the uncovered RG on Mike Mcray,  combined with the TE driving Taco to the inside gap while the FB sealed Kinnell at the edge, Wadley used speed and vision to attack Michigans defense. The play was made easier because Michigans defense was standing still waiting for the action instead of attacking downhill and forcing Wadley back inside.

 

 

This was not the only play Iowa attacked Michigans front 7 aggressively. Here is more evidence as Wadley runs over two players, Thomas and Hill. Michigan actually attacks downhill but Iowa's ability to block the linebackers attacking the gaps and Wadleys vision made it difficult for Michigans defense all night. 

https://media.profootballfocus.com/2016/11/LeShun-Truck.gif 

991GT3

November 13th, 2016 at 2:40 PM ^

was Don Brown. The tackling is atrocious. Any runner who is willing to fight against being tacked will gain yards after contact from Michigan players. THe only way we can get pressure on the QB is to an all out blitz. A four man rush is non existent against an average OL.

Yes, we have held teams to low score but look at the teams. But for Colorado losing their fine QB early in the second half, it would have been a different ball game. If MSU had two more minutes we are looking at a lose. Wisconsin started a freshman QB who's only win came against a very bad MSU team the week before. Since the MIchigan game, he has steadliy improved. PSU also had a below average QB. 

All this falls in the lap of Brown. The next two weeks will tell us if he is a good hire. He is supposed to be the guru of how to defend against spread teams. He will have a lot to prove as the man that knows how defend spreads.

991GT3

November 13th, 2016 at 3:36 PM ^

and were held to 59 yards rushing. PSU and other teams held Iowa to low rushing totals. They were considered to have the worst offense in the western division. Granted they only scored 12 points but when the game was on the line, Iowa run through our defense like a  knife through butter. This from one of the worst offenses in the country. Oh to add injury to insult, MSU which has as bad if not worst offense went up and down the field in the fourth quarter again with the game on the line. But for them running out of time, Michigan was beat.

So before you make stupid comments about football STUDY.

Leonhall

November 13th, 2016 at 3:06 PM ^

It seemed to me that the LB's are so damn close to the LOS too much. It also looks like we are told to play aggressive and are out of control when approaching any runner, causing us a 50/50 chance of wrapping up.



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doggdetroit

November 13th, 2016 at 3:12 PM ^

The defense (LBs included) played more than well enough to win. Frankly, they played more than well enough for Michigan to blow Iowa out. Wadley is a legit NFL RB, so at some point you just have to tip your hat to Iowa.

This loss falls squarely on the offense, which was Hokesian in playcalling last night.

AmayzNblue

November 13th, 2016 at 3:38 PM ^

This is true. We all hated watching Wadley run over our D, but when all is said and done, the Mich D held them to 14 total points. The offensive problems against decent defensive teams like Wisconsin and Iowa are the bigger concern than the D at this point.



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Durham Blue

November 13th, 2016 at 3:48 PM ^

If Speight connects on one of the first half play action bombs where Darboh was ridiculously open we're up 17-0.  I have to believe it's a different game at that point, especially mentally for both teams.  Then the safety breathed life into Iowa and we ended up in a dogfight.  We gave up 12 defensive points which was more than good enough to win easily considering the way we'd been moving the ball in previous weeks.  The offense needed to simply play to its own standard.  It didn't by a wide margin and we lost.

wahooverine

November 13th, 2016 at 6:31 PM ^

Bush seems like he's faster and possibly a better tackler. Not sure about his pash rushing. McCray looks like he's put together with duct tape and twine. He has shown he can be easily blocked or will take bad angles and miss tackles. I'm wondering if Bush's lack of experience is worth it for his better speed if he were to replace Mcray.

maize-blue

November 13th, 2016 at 4:08 PM ^

Those Iowa backs ran over and through a lot of tackles. Our edge defense is not the greatest. Iowa was better prepared for this game.

Beat Rutgerland

November 13th, 2016 at 4:22 PM ^

At this point, we're getting tested on the edge because that is maybe the weakest part of an overall excellent D that is probably blitzing this play because it's Saturday. It wasn't a great day at the office for the D, but they gave up 12 points in a game that moved fast and where they spent a lot of time on the field. Reports of the defense's death have been greatly exaggerated.

MGoUberBlue

November 13th, 2016 at 6:38 PM ^

You are so right..........the defense had some issues but overall they played a game where they limited Iowa to not many points.

Well, other than two really stupid plays of touching the punter oh so lightly and targeting.

And the edge is still a problem......coaching or talent?

But the offense simply disappeared........

Great defense or just a bad uninspired day........I never thought that we would see a Harbaugh team come out so flat as they were in this game.

hazardc

November 13th, 2016 at 4:28 PM ^

Edge defense was already an issue.. 

 

The defense didn't lose this game, though.. even though it came down to the last second field goal...


I might be an outlier in this thread, but they did their job throughout the game, the drops, the INT  because of a normally automatic receiver bobbling a perfect pass... those are the reasons we lost. 


You cannot get away with leaning on your defense that much and expect a bunch of coinflips to not go your way. (the facemask?)  

 

2,3.4 all lost..  #1 was playing little sister's of the poor. 

 

I don't want to get political about it, but being in classes all week across numerous colleges.... it felt like a f'n funeral for some kid who just died of cancer the entire time, and I'm not exaggerating by much -- if at all.  I cannot ignore that fact, no matter how diciplined this team is, we've all seen the pre-game protests by michigan players if we've been paying attention all season. 

 

It's no excuse, but the guys on our offense who are usually making plays were looking terrible for no real reason.   There was an underlying issue going on, and I don't have anything else besides my own personal experience in academia this entire week to go on.  Inside a university felt the weirdest it's ever felt in the entire time I've spent in one...  I'm in environmental sciences, political science, history, geography/planning, and engineering depts @ UToledo... and most of my week there was almost nothing going on besides talking about impacts of the election... the syllabus was put on hold.

 

I wouldn't even bring this up if it weren't for 3/4 of the top 4 taking an L . 

 

    

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BlueMk1690

November 13th, 2016 at 6:20 PM ^

Trump fans and were therefore buoyant rather than depressed? I mean I suppose there is a possibility, I believe their QB and a few others attended a Trump rally in January. It would be almost humorous if there's truth to that.

But questionable if our coaches did not successfully fight that. It's their job as professionals to not let the team be distracted.

hazardc

November 13th, 2016 at 10:42 PM ^

I'm not going to make a debate out of it, but experiencing it myself all last week while trying to avoid it -- but it didn't matter what the demographics were, it felt like a funeral that I couldn't leave for 6-8 hours every single day after the election... You could tell it was taking a huge mental toll on everyone. The only class I had that was productive was my daily lab analysis class, and it was still like a f'n funeral with constant banter about the election and kids feeling like they aren't going to have a job (given, this one is in environmental/earth sciences... so, they probably aren't without some concern.. though the fracking market is looking like a good place to run to) 

 

I don't think a lot of them yet realize that in 2 years, if things are taking dramatic swings and people are hating it, there's going to be a huge backlash and we'll just have a locked up government for at least another 2 years...  the inbetween is better left not talked about because I don't like conjecture. 

Notable is that it wasn't just the students, it was even the most usually politically-quiet and level-headed profs perpetuating the envrionment that felt like walking into crippling depression. I almost understand why some places were doing that whole "safe area panzy stuff"  The tension has been so thick I'd consider it a proper cut of steak. 

I have no doubt the coaching staff tried to keep their heads in the game, unfortunately when you're a minority like most of our athletes are, you don't get to control your sleep when your mind is experiencing extreme stressors.   These are kids, and if it is affecting adults, you're damn right it's going to affect people who are mostly too young to even remember 9/11... 

 

Obama just visited UM the day before the election... and tickets to that event went almost as fast as tickets went to the f'n grateful dead 50th in chicago last year. 


We do have a coach that is neurotic and passionate as hell in all facets of life, and in a way i fucking love to death (we were born at the same place, too!)  Regardless of that, he's been active with our current president...  link below.   Coach Jim puts a lot of thought into every little detail of everything he does. I kind of wonder how it may have affected him. (blasphemy, i know, don't start.. I realize this is conjecture and pointless)

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverine…

 

I don't know if anyone on campus can chime in on this issue, but it's hard for me to believe this election didn't hit UM students harder than it hit at UT.   The last time I  was in A2 (to buy some weed stuff and grab dinner at vineology, god bless Ann Arbor.)  there was a BLM protest march blocking the streets and being escorting by the ann arbor police. 

 

Like I said, I wouldn't have brought it up if just michigan lost -- every team in the top 4 except alabama vs little sisters took an L. 

 

I guess even if there isn't any credence to the observation, there is at least the notable fact that analysts completely botched a presidential election and 75% of the games that involved teams inside the top 4... 

 

I wonder how that gambling site that paid out on hillary weeks before the election is faring right now? whoops! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MGoStrength

November 13th, 2016 at 6:05 PM ^

They had him coralled a number of times and he wiggled out or juked guys.  I don't know how they ran for so few yards before this game.  If they played like that all year, they'd have a similar record to Wiscy.  Wadley is a good player and he deserves credit.  Not saying we didn't show some weaknesses, but they did some good things too.  The real question is why they haven't all year.

socalwolverine1

November 13th, 2016 at 5:53 PM ^

What gave me pause about our defense was our inability to stuff Iowa on their last possession. Too reminiscent of the November games last year when we couldn't stop the run even when we knew it was coming. Last year we blamed it on injuries to the DL and our slow LBs. Both of those are improved this year, so is it just that teams have figured out how to gash us ten games in? I hope our coaches can mix in different looks for OSU to keep them guessing!

Alumnus93

November 13th, 2016 at 6:38 PM ^

seems to me that everyone now is tackling high. McCray and gedeon and stribling, try to tackle the torso.

The Fan in Fargo

November 13th, 2016 at 7:06 PM ^

A little off topic here but Peppers didn't look elite last night either. It's clear he needs more coaching and time in the college game. If he doesn't play the game of his life in Cbus, I don't know how he goes pro after leaving that legacy. As much as he has done for the team, would kind of be a let down to go out that way with all that talent.

erald01

November 13th, 2016 at 7:47 PM ^

I agree and lets be honest he is not that good of defense of player. The guy has tremendous speed and he is shifty so might as well use it in offense. If i was him i would stay one more year and play mostly offense. There is now way he gets drafted as a defense



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JTrain

November 13th, 2016 at 9:20 PM ^

Right. But two dudes on mgoblog just said he should turn down MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars and a top ten pick in the NFL thus fulfilling a lifelong dream to take care of him, his mom, and however many children he wants to have with however many women he wants to have so that he could come back and play another year in college and hopefully not get hurt...thus MAYBE moving himself up a couple spots in the draft. /s
#runon



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hazardc

November 13th, 2016 at 11:01 PM ^

One notable thing outside of this.. people questioning the coaching... I thought the timeouts at the end were used properly to make them kick a long FG and have time left to make a shot down the field.  I am not going to argue with people, it seemed logical to me given the circumstances and I trust the people crunching numbers to make those decisions properly. 

 

 

Regarding Speight and the offense: 


I was questioning not putting O'Korn in when Speight was looking a little busted.... I was questining it a lot, actually... especially with the offense being completely flacid. O'Korn has looked pretty good out there this season and while I understand not wanting to demoralize your QB that has been  constantly getting better -- when he's hurt and the team can use a spark.. why not?

 That said, I was eating my words every time speight put the ball right where it needed to be and someone was there to drop or bobble the ball (resulting in a turnover) ... and we're talking about our best players, the players who could probably catch and not bobble a f'n musket ball on any given saturday. Players that have looked like NFL talent at times. 

The defense was looking exploited, but they still gave up very little... and when you consider how much time they spent on the field... it's not surprising to me at all that they gave up just enough yardage at the end to not prevent the game winning FG... 

 

It was a systemic break-down.. I won't blame the defense on this at all.  There isn't a defense that never wears out when the offense cannot keep them off of the field at all.. and that defense still kept us in the game until the bitter end.  

Addendum:  F that facemask call. I've never seen ANYONE try SO HARD to do everything they could to AVOID a facemask and still get called for it. Watch the tape, his head was turning away from the direction it would have been had the facemask been grabbed at all. 

 

Not getting into the rest of the "questionables" ... there's no point.  win every game, no margin for error or you're two loss michigan and the  penn state team you cleaned up gets to play for a championship... and the wisconsin team that beats the hell out of their oppoenents we managed to take down gets to go to the playoff..  I hate thinking about it -- especially after seeing LSU v Bama and knowing we have been getting better since that wisconsin game. 

 

The good thing is we had this margin for error, the bad thing is now we do not have it, and now are going to be a 1 or 2 loss team.  

 

 

I think we see michigan make a satement next week.  This does not happen again.   There are too many variables that could have affected this game, my post about the political impact on universities plays into it a little... if the kids weren't getting good sleep this week, if they were experiencing a lot of the same environment i was in academia all week, I can see it having an impact on them being ready to take on a late game on the road...

 

 

 

 

Ok, I'm done rambling and ranting. 

 


 

 

 

pescadero

November 14th, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^

"F that facemask call. I've never seen ANYONE try SO HARD to do everything they could to AVOID a facemask and still get called for it. Watch the tape, his head was turning away from the direction it would have been had the facemask been grabbed at all. "

 

The facemask call was for the finger in the earhole. It was ticky-tack, but he did hook it a little.

 

A facemask penalty includes grabbing ANY helmet opening, not just the facemask.

bhinrichs

November 14th, 2016 at 4:27 AM ^

 

It looks like in the first video posted that Stribling initially stands still and then takes a step back  before coming to the line where the running back is attacking.  Why does he do that? 

There are no recievers on his side of the field, and there is man plus a deep cover guy for the two receivers on the other side of the field.  Did he think it was play action?  Even so, there were three defenders for the two down field recievers.  I'm no defensive expert, just wondering - what was he reading on that play?