Michigan's 2016 Schedule
Our "soft" schedule, as perceived at the beginning of the year, ends with us having played NINE bowl eligible teams
exceptions were 3 of our B1G rivals - MSU, Illinois and Rutgers
Hawaii, at 6-7, is bowl eligible
7-2 vs. Bowl teams is nothing to sneeze at
3-2 against top 25
3-1 against top 10
November 29th, 2016 at 6:52 PM ^
November 29th, 2016 at 12:41 PM ^
Then OSU will have beaten two Power 5 Conference champions. Then again, OSU is guaranteed in.
Man, this all feels dumb. If this was college basketball, we'd be a #1 seed out West and OSU would a #1 seed in the Midwest. If the CFP used the same criteria the NCAA selection committee uses to pick #1 seeds, we wouldn't have to worry about Wisconsin or PSU. Look at how many times UNC or Duke loses in the ACC tournament, yet still gets a #1 seed because of conference strength, SOS and passing the eye test.
November 29th, 2016 at 12:52 PM ^
then why'd Harbaugh get a technical foul called on him last Saturday?
November 29th, 2016 at 1:16 PM ^
Hadn't thought of it that way.
November 29th, 2016 at 12:41 PM ^
When you put it like that, we absolutely should be in the playoffs if Colorado wins. And if I were Harbaugh, I'd be all over Twitter letting the world know that we beat 2 P5 Champions this season.
November 29th, 2016 at 12:50 PM ^
Doesnt the value of beating a conference champion also cut both ways? Meaning that if the committee puts high value on conference championships (and the defeat of said champion) wouldnt they also want to place those champions into the final four?
Personally I think three spots are locked. Alabama, OSU & the winner of Wisconsin/Penn State. And I dont see any way in Hell they give the B1G a third slot - no matter how deserving we might be.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:03 PM ^
No way the winner of Wiscy/Penn State is a lock .
November 29th, 2016 at 1:17 PM ^
November 29th, 2016 at 1:43 PM ^
they have rigged it.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:50 PM ^
He knows that UM and OSU are the only shots at beating Alabama. Wisconsin got blown out by them last year. PSU making it would bring all the JoePa stuff back to the forefront. As much as he may hate it, we also bring viewers. If there are going to be any shenanigans, it will likely be to slot us #4 next week so we can play Bama and the NCAA can get the big NYE ratings they desperately need.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:03 PM ^
disagree with your logic on this. I'm just stating a fact that no other team in the country (outside of OSU who needs two teams to win) can stand behind, maybe any team in quite sometime. Because, I tried to look it up, I don't have that kind of time. If the committee does value conference championships over head to head performance, than Michigan is out and I wouldn't be upset with their decision.
However, IF they are truly looking for the four best teams in America, and Michigan has beaten TWO P5 Conference Champions, that has to count for something right? Head to head, we are better than the two teams playing for the B1G Championship!!!! I don't even know if any team in the country can say that about their own conference.....? Does any team in the FBS have wins over both division leaders playing for a conference title?
November 29th, 2016 at 1:55 PM ^
I think this is also where the people who push for conference champions to get into the CFP run into a problem, and we're seeing it right now in the Big Ten where the teams that are going to the BTCG aren't necessarily worthy of being in the CFP based on resume alone.
To me anyway, there is a danger of overweighting "Did you win your conference?" when there are teams that didn't but might have a better argument by resume for a higher ranking than you, never mind that in this case we beat them both in the case of the Big Ten.
I mean, it might not always be Michigan, but this is bound to happen more than people realize, I think.
November 29th, 2016 at 5:38 PM ^
Until evidence is given otherwise, I believe the committee will give strong preference to conference champs in all scenarios. Remember that one of the factors that helped bring about the CFP (and end of BCS) was the Bama-LSU rematch. The committee's criteria for judging between "comparable teams" can be found here (http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/selection-committee-faqs), with conference championships being first mentioned, then SoS and then H2H.
November 29th, 2016 at 4:50 PM ^
Beat Colorado at home and Washington on the road.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:19 PM ^
out vs. Clemson ... and UM plays Washington in the Rose Bowl, 3-loss/B10CG loser (and head-to-head loser to UM) goes to the Orange vs. ACC, Cotton vs. WMU, or Citrus Bowl. That wouldn't be terrible.
November 29th, 2016 at 12:53 PM ^
Well to be fair, it's easier to defeat a conference champion when you are not one yourself.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:20 PM ^
a troll or a lurker or both, but I did upvote you for making that astute point.
November 29th, 2016 at 12:54 PM ^
Per the comment below, OK and WI wins would give OSU victories over 2 P5 champs. Also, if PSU/Clemson win, then Pitt would actually have that honor.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:07 PM ^
OSU would and should greatly benefit from that if it does happen. Pitt on the other hand, doesn't get the same benefit, although it is nice to put on your resume for recruiting purposes.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:33 PM ^
The Power 5 have only been around since the Big East broke up in 2013.
November 29th, 2016 at 2:00 PM ^
November 29th, 2016 at 2:02 PM ^
November 29th, 2016 at 2:41 PM ^
If Clemson and Penn State win, Pittsburgh also beat two conference champions.
(Whoops! Someone else had it. Nevermind.)
November 29th, 2016 at 5:31 PM ^
If Wisc and OK win then OSU and claim that too.
Unless CO and VT both win, we are almost certainly going to be left out. If UW, Clemson, and PSU win, OSU will likely be out too.
November 29th, 2016 at 12:34 PM ^
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November 29th, 2016 at 12:47 PM ^
Stupid damn Iowa.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:26 PM ^
And their Witches.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:04 PM ^
Wonder who the Big Ten coach who claimed at the beginning of the season "don't believe the hype"
November 29th, 2016 at 1:09 PM ^
Would be somewhat ironic if it was Ferentz.
But I'm really hoping it was Ash or Dantonio.
November 29th, 2016 at 2:24 PM ^
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November 29th, 2016 at 1:43 PM ^
I'm guessing we are teased with CFP spot #4 tonight, just to rub salt in. Then we get to see what happens in all of the "title" games. I think Colorado can beat Washington. I'd take a close game with Clemson and PSU knocking off Wisconsin. Then I think we have a shot.
We've beaten the Big 10 title competitors and the Pac 12 champ if CO wins. If they REALLY want the 4 best teams, I can't see how we are not one of them.
Wouldn't it be something to see us up against Bama? See what we could do against their frosh QB? Could you imagine the title game if it were a U-M/OSU rematch?!
It has to be more likely than my winning the lottery!!!
November 29th, 2016 at 1:56 PM ^
Would also help if Clemson loses
November 29th, 2016 at 1:47 PM ^
I'm OK with the B1G Champion going to the Playoffs instead of us should Washington or Clemson stumble. That likely means the Rose Bowl for us, and that feels like an apt way to end this season if we couldn't beat OSU. With our inconsistent offense, I'd be worried about Alabama making us look like MSU from last year if we snuck in as the 4 seed.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:58 PM ^
The rumor is that if we miss out on the CFP we are headed to the Orange Bowl against hopefully FSU. I think Wisc beats penn st (because they are the better team in my opinion) and they will get snubbed by the CFP and go to the Rose.
November 29th, 2016 at 1:48 PM ^
I wish I had the time and resources to do the research on my own. How many times in modern college football history (whatever that means, of course) has a team beaten two conference champions prior to the playing of the bowl/playoff games? For our purposes, I know this question supposes that Colorado beats Washington, which may be a stretch considering Washington is favored by 6.
Another fun, but likely pointless thought -- if the 4 teams are Alabama, Clemson, OSU and us, there's a crazy scenario in which we would have beaten 4 of the 5 conference champions on our way to the national title. #pipedream
Now, in reality, this is all academic. I am assuming we will be playing an ACC team in the Orange Bowl, and the 4 teams will be Alabama, Clemson, Washington and OSU. B1G champ will play in the Rose Bowl against Colorado. If it's Penn State, they will cry foul.
November 29th, 2016 at 2:07 PM ^
The PSU/OSU dilema is going to be fun to watch unfold should PSU win. The irony is that the ass beating we put on PSU is helping OSU and may be the difference in what gets OSU in over a conf champ that they lost to. Fuck OSU!
November 29th, 2016 at 2:04 PM ^
Rutgers is not, in any sense of the word, a rival.
November 29th, 2016 at 2:56 PM ^
What is the deal with Conference realignment? Is that even on the table? Michigan and OSU should be in separate divisions IMO. This is going to hurt the B1G in the playoffs as a weaker Wiscy or God Forbid Penn State goes to the playoffs.
November 29th, 2016 at 3:58 PM ^
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