Meta: Broken Page Down Feature
Brian, Seth, and others.
Every stinking day, some (fairly) new or infrequent user puts up something that was inevitably posted earlier in the day. And the mgo-obsessives who check this page multiple times hourly immediately pile on with negbangs and are irritated that someone had the GALL, the temerity, to repost something posted earlier. Inevitably, people put up stupid images, and "IBD," etc.
On the one hand, you could reasonably say, "did you open the forum in another tab?" or, "did you hit the MGoBoard tab at the top of the page?" On the other hand, some of these things were news only hours before, news a day before at the most. The post that brings my META post is the repost of the hiring of Fred Jackson as Ypsi football HC.
Is it impossible to have some programmer out there fix this? Because neither the page down feature nor the tab at the top of the page work. How much does it cost?
FTR, I just donated $50 at beveled guilt. That won't fix it, but if enough other users do this, maybe you can prioritize it? Hire someone else to make the board more friendly?
Obv., your content, your "long form journalism," is what makes this site great. And is why you have so many readers, even from other fan bases. And for long term users like myself, we know better than to post anything new that has been out in the MSM for more than an hour or two.
But for the sake of all of us, especially newbies or infrequent mgousers, can you fix this? Or at the very least, can one of you or a knowledgeable moderator explain why it hasn't been fixed, and when it might be fixed.
Thank you. Get off my lawn.
November 5th, 2015 at 6:14 PM ^
/s... Kind of
November 5th, 2015 at 9:48 PM ^
Wasn't this just posted?
BTW, did anyone hear the Lions fired Mayhew and Lewand? ...and I think Weird Al has a new video. ...and koalas are either awesome or they suck.
November 5th, 2015 at 6:15 PM ^
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November 5th, 2015 at 6:23 PM ^
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November 5th, 2015 at 8:07 PM ^
I don't know anything about Drupal - but taking a quick look at the javascript, it looks like the problem is because a couple of the views in Drupal.settings.views.ajaxViews are ending up with a duplicate view_dom_id. When the click handlers are added to the pager, it only processes each view_dom_id once, so the duplicate ones end up getting click handlers mapped to the other views. (Which would explain why you get the second page of recent diaries back when you click the board posts pager - its mapped to the click handler for the recent diaries pager).
I don't know anything about how those view objects are generated though.
November 5th, 2015 at 10:01 PM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 5:55 AM ^
Posting this twice. Hopefully someone from the site sees it.
Sounds like Pager ID is identical for the three tabs in the quicktabs settings for both the Diary Quick Tab and MGoBoard QuickTab. To fix it set the PagerIDs for the following to these numbers.
Diaries - New = 0
Diaries - Popular = 1
Diaries - Hot = 2
MGoBoard - New = 3
MGoBoard - Recent = 4
MGoBoard - Hot = 5
It's the same exact thing on the pager for the forum. Anytime you have a pager the ID has to be diffrent that the other three. I'm also not discussing the ID in the HTML tag. It has to be changed in the Drupal Settings. So in the forum pager you would set the PagerID to 6.
To test the theory I went to the Forum home page, the pager on top of the forum, that actually controls the Pager in the Diariers Quick Tab - New so its PagerID is set to the same thing. The Pager for MGoBoard - New also controls the same thing. So all 3 have the same PagerID. The reason it works when you open it in a new Tab is because it's still correctly adding the array for the Pagers to the URL querystring. ?page=0,0,0,0,0,0,1 each number controls a Pager.
Bout all I could find on how to change that setting. Hope this fixes it or helps.
http://www.zyxware.com/articles/3696/drupal-how-to-fix-the-incorrect-pager-display-in-drupal-7
November 6th, 2015 at 8:49 AM ^
I don't think its the pager id...those looked right to me when I was looking at it. The duplicated view_dom_id looked like the problem. Maybe a bug in Drupal:
https://www.drupal.org/node/836206
November 6th, 2015 at 9:06 AM ^
That's my guess too, you are absolutley correct and great find BTW. I posted an update on the bottom about that as well. Once I updated them on my side everything worked, should be a pretty easy fix on their end.
November 5th, 2015 at 6:17 PM ^
November 5th, 2015 at 7:52 PM ^
When I click the >> hyperlink to get to the next group of posts (to see if specific content has been posted), I rarely get the next group of MGoBoard sites. I typically get Diaries and other non-sense.
Fixing that would help us tenured posters. The newbies, maybe not so much. Not sure if they look past the top 8 on the MGoBoard list.
My rant: If you are automating content removal based on words, please remove OP's that contain "this is my first post, so go easy on me".
November 5th, 2015 at 8:07 PM ^
I never get the next group so I right-click on it and open in a new tab.
November 6th, 2015 at 9:43 AM ^
November 5th, 2015 at 6:20 PM ^
Well done rant and on point!
November 5th, 2015 at 6:20 PM ^
November 5th, 2015 at 6:21 PM ^
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November 5th, 2015 at 7:08 PM ^
If people are that afraid and want to be certain they should just google search instead of using the built in serach because you can't filter by most recent.
search google using the following:
mgoblog.com/mgboard: ______________
Then go to search tools and pick last hour, 24 hours, week, etc.
November 5th, 2015 at 8:52 PM ^
to use this but I will never remember the correct format to do so.
November 6th, 2015 at 8:24 AM ^
Maybe the site search bar could redirect to the google results page auomatically sorted by date. Google search format:
https://www.google.com/search?q=mgoblog.com/mgoboard:+fred%20jackson&tb…
November 5th, 2015 at 6:25 PM ^
I'm evenyoubrutus, and I approve this message.
November 5th, 2015 at 6:28 PM ^
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November 5th, 2015 at 6:25 PM ^
I think one issue that has been around forever is the "recent" link doesn't work on the MGoBoard - on some browsers and computer it does, on others it doesn't. So maybe if that worked for everyone peeps would be able to see what was recently posted within 24-48 hrs. For me, it usually just shows diary entries if I hit recent so I can only see the last 15 stories.
Another rule I have found works is if its general news that has been mentioned on twitter or various widely read websites if it happened more than 180 seconds ago it is probably already on MGoBlog so no need to post it.
November 5th, 2015 at 8:03 PM ^
I have the same issue when the "recent" link.
To your second point, I don't have the Twitter loaded on my 8-rack player. I enjoy reading OP's where the tweet is posted. However, if you cannot embed a tweet, you should not be allowed to post the news. Should be a rule or something.
November 5th, 2015 at 8:12 PM ^
November 5th, 2015 at 6:29 PM ^
Simple - just raise the point level to post new threads. By then, you should have learned and seen the damage done.
Anyway, OP, most MGoBlog readers (99%) never see this going on. It's usually deleted before the average user gets onsite once a day or a few times a week.
It's only people with severe MGoBlog addictions (you know who you are - myself included) that see this snark action.
November 5th, 2015 at 6:55 PM ^
I agree... no one below 1475 points should be able to make new threads.
November 5th, 2015 at 7:08 PM ^
Must... bring... below... 1475
November 5th, 2015 at 7:12 PM ^
No! You have no idea what depravities I was subject to just to get that many Mgofunpoints.
November 5th, 2015 at 7:21 PM ^
I'm sorry it had to be this way.
November 5th, 2015 at 7:23 PM ^
Oh well.. Back to the salt mines I guess.
November 5th, 2015 at 7:57 PM ^
You do know that 1,476 points gets you a new T shirt. And you were soooo close.
November 5th, 2015 at 7:22 PM ^
You guy's are mean. I'm telling my mom.
November 5th, 2015 at 7:45 PM ^
Rules of MGoPoints
- Never talk about MGoPoints.
- Never add posts in a thread where the NegBang Train has left the station.
November 5th, 2015 at 7:58 PM ^
I know the rules, but maybe I just like the pain........
November 5th, 2015 at 10:31 PM ^
At first I was taking points from you, now I'm giving them back
November 5th, 2015 at 11:08 PM ^
He's back at exactly 1475. Everyone remain calm.
November 6th, 2015 at 4:56 AM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 4:56 AM ^
November 6th, 2015 at 3:46 AM ^
Rule 2 is for cowards.
November 6th, 2015 at 8:01 AM ^
November 5th, 2015 at 9:53 PM ^
The irony of the good-natured downvote
November 5th, 2015 at 6:31 PM ^
While we're talking about it, the site could also use an upgrade in features and appearance. The content is too good to have such a dated layout, especially with wealthy and numerous fanbase that could help bring it up to speed.
November 5th, 2015 at 6:33 PM ^
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November 5th, 2015 at 7:29 PM ^
Honestly not much. It's a blog. The most fancy thing the site has is username/password. And that's not fancy. Outside of that the whole design is basically a wordpress blog that anyone could start for $50. You have sidebars with a lot of links anyone could who could drag and drop could create with premade widgets. If anything the money would be redesigning the app I guess.
You go to guru.com or freelancer.com and plenty of highly rated firms in India could redesign this in a week for $1000-$1500. If you want a US programmer - stay on the same sites and its prob $2500-$3000. If you go to a local schmoe in Metro Detroit he probably charges you more since he is not competing in a global marketplace. Those might be aggressive figures honestly.
You can get full fleged membership sites with account histories, with shopping carts (i.e. you buy things directly from the site) which are way more complicated than a blog site for $1500 or less on those freelance sites if you use overseas vendors.
There are countless premade templates that would just need to be tweaked or you could go from scratch for this site which is simple in its needs - it's not a complicated site by any means and the front end design would be a snap once the powers that be decide what they want it to look like. Again I am just talking about the site and making it mobile friendly. Changing the front end would be very easy - migrating all the history probably is a bit more work but not much.
The app is its own situation so not sure on that.
November 5th, 2015 at 7:43 PM ^
November 5th, 2015 at 10:35 PM ^
Insert [not sure if serious]
I love people like you who don't understand the importance of a well built site yet you still give out advice like you do.
With a website like the mgoblog and the amount of traffic it gets, getting a site designed and developed by some team in India or purchasing a theme would be the worst idea. Yes, while cost effective, the performance hit by a shitty built site would be brutal for this site, a site that already had a ton of performance issues with servers in the past, now you want to add poorly constructed code? Do you find the cheapest contractor and the cheapest materials when you build a house too? You get what you pay for couldn't be more true in the case of a website.
There are so many factors that go into performance of a site, and quality coding is at the top. Not to mention sustainability. Stop giving advice in a field you clearly do not fully understand.
November 5th, 2015 at 11:05 PM ^
Chill dude.
Again its a blog. This isn't Ebay or hell an Etsy style site. There is almost nothing on this site other than internal links and external links and a few ads. It's basically going to sit on a wordpress backend (or drupal or whatever they want to use) and then you code the front end. Yes Mgo has issues because of high traffic but the base code for this site is simple in that nothing complex is happening on the site. If the goal is just to put all the same content out there in a style that is current it's cheap to do it. If the goal is to add a lot more features than it's another discussion.
Yes everything coded overseas is "poorly coded" and everything by U.S. coders is "awesomely coded". There are a lot of shitty coders here just the same. I know quite a few people with sites with far more complexity than this who have used Eastern European coders and they have very well running sites and they are "computer people" themselves who go thru the code themselves to check it but don't waste their time doing the "basic stuff" so outsource it. Sometimes it is just cheaper to go offshore - I know it's a crazy concept that has been grabbing the land the past 40 years. And those are sites with a lot more complexity than a blog.
And I didnt say to take a base template and unleash it on the world, I said you'd have to tweek it and double check everything in it but 60%+ of the work could be done for you. In fact, I I would hazard a guess that MGo was a canned theme that Brian bought for $50 or got for free way back in the day (with tweeks since) as I've seen hundreds of blogs with the nearly identical theme. (most launched a decade ago and have long since upgraded)
By the way Brian's original Mgo was a free blogger site
This version looks like it was launched in 2008 - I bet for too much more than free in terms of cost of theme. :D
The money spent here is for as you say maintaining access due to traffic load.
If someone is paying $20K to to do a simple redesign of a blog they are getting ripped off....
November 6th, 2015 at 8:24 AM ^
Yeah, some of the worst coders are from India.
/eyeroll