MBB: Better with Teske at th 5? Brooks at PG?

...  and I trust our coaches.  This is intersting though.  I think most other coaches would see the lineup as Simpson, Brooks, Mathews, Wagner, Teske.  Old school two guard, forward, pf, center...  

Not Beilein's style, but sometimes it pays to alter what you do to fit your players.  Ask Brady Hoke.

I think we had a legitmate complaint on a couple of those calls on Mo.  His last foul under the rim was as fantom as I've seen in a while.  It was nice to see Beilein get pissed.

If this keeps up, Mo should move to the 4.  PF is his natural position and it might actually help his fouls.  He won't have as much pressure on him to control the low paint.  He had a non-called (make-up) reach in towards the end there, but most of his fouls seem to be from ticky tak bumps, etc, down low.  He seems pretty good at keeping some distance on his man that is cutting, just hands up and move them to the baseline...

I hope I don't jinx something, but Teske looks like he is on his way to becoming an NBA center.  It's really intriguing.  A guy that tall 7'1" is just getting used to his gigantic frame at his age.  His attitude and aggression has improved along with his body control, which looks fantastic to me??

This might be interesting....  Any one esle as optomistic?  What a diamond in the rough.

last year.  It wouldn't be that crazy, especially since Mo is a more natural stretch four.  He's certainly not a rim protector so the fewer minutes with him at the 5, the better.  On offense, you would have to take him off the pick and roll and move him to a perimeter guy / spot up shooter but I think that's worth it, especially since Teske looks better and better fnishing off the PnR.

The lack of ball handling would be an issue. We would arguably be below average at every position.

PG is the most important position in college basketball. By far, I would say. Trying to play without one is like running wildcat in football. Michigan needs one of its PGs to step up. They need the time on floor to work that out. There's no good workaround to that problem and it's waaaay too early to give up on the PGs.

The Sporting News called Vogrich the best shooter in the country. I don't recall Beilein saying it too.

The Sporting News called Vogrich the best shooter in the country. I don't recall Beilein saying it too.

...if Mo played any defense the question would not be so in play.

before I saw this board topic so I'll post here too for relevance (Hint: today absolutely did not show what you claim):

Teske came into the game in the first half and immediately starting disrupting just about everything VCU did within 15 feet of the basket.  We extended our lead from 1 to 5.  Then Wagner came in and we gave up the lead.  Then he got his second foul and Teske came in and we took a six poiint lead.  I was intrigued and really liked what I saw.  This yo-yo-ing would continue into the second half as Teske even started playing well on offense.  Went back and noted the margins when each guy was in:

Wagner played the first 8:33 with us winning 16-15: +1

Teske the next 3:45 and went out with us winning 22-17: +4

Wagner the next 3:47 and went out tied 26-26: -5

Teske the next 3:55 until halftime with us winning 36-30: +6

Wagner played the next 1:36 until he picked up a third at 36-32: -2

Teske went the next 5:12 and we were up 47-42: +1

Wagner the next 3:53 and went out with his fourth down49-51: -7

Teske went the next 2:55 and went out with us down 51-53: Even

Wagner went the last 6:24 and we were down 3 with less than two minutes to go when we closed with an 11-0, largely thanks to a 3-pt play and a 3pter to win 68-60: +10

It would be one thing if Teske was coming in as part of a line change situation and our bench overall outplayed theirs but this wasn't the case.  His minutes were mostly against their starters while playing with our starters since it was foul trouble subbing. It also wasn't a matter of Wagner just having an individually poor shooting night that bring down scoring while he was in.  He was 5/10 on FGs, 1/1 FTs for 12 pts on 10 shot equivalents.  He turned it over twice but had a 102 Ortg to Teske's 106. It also wasn't one stretch propping up Teske's numbers.  We were consistently better with him in the game than with Wagner.

Teske was +11 in 16 min.

Wagner was -3 in 24 min (and was a whopping -14 before the 11-0 run in the last two min).

I've been critical of Wagner's defense this year and after watching this tournament, I'm baffled.  He rarely rotates to help and he simply does not affect shots (from his man or guys he should help on) near the rim because of it. He's 6'11 and his block rate is 0.0!!!!! And he's not just off to a slow start. His block rate last year was a guard-like 1.6. Queue the WTF gif.

Teske's block rate is 10.4.  That is outstanding. He looks like a bona fide rim protector. He's in the right spots, helps on anything within 10 feet, and Alters Shots.

And our offense is getting better and better with him in there.  He's a beast setting picks to get guys open, and he's rolling and finishing (9/10 so far!). His blocks and defensive disruption gets us out on the break which is very fun to watch with MAAR and Matthews blazing down the court.

Wagner has become a bit of a black hole such that when he's not on fire, the offense isn't good.  He has an assist rate of 1.6 which is mind bogglingly low for a guy that should be able to create shots for others. That's a quarter Teske's assist rate.

We've only played five games and only two of those were against teams with a pulse (barely at that).  This is a small sample and he may not keep it up, and teams will start to adjust to his presence in the middle, but Teske's not only been better than Donnal (as Ace was glad about after CMU), he's been a revelation.

Yes and yes.