Macomb Dakota HS & MHSAA collab to keep top hooper ineligible for senior year
I guess the coach and admins at Dakota HS in Macomb County felt entitled to this kid's athletic glory. Sad we entrust our children with vindictive dopes who think they "own" our kids.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^
Another level of school of choice is that you can choose which in-district school you can send your kids to if you want to keep them in the resident district. That's actually what we do with my son only because he requires a paraprofessional for part of the day (autism spectrum) and there is only one elementary school in the district sufficiently staffed and equipped. If that weren't an issue for us, we probably would have simply stuck with the elementary school that our side of town typically attends.
December 9th, 2017 at 5:35 AM ^
The kid apparently moved on his own into an apartment in Clarkston. The family stayed in Macomb.
This is clearly athletically motivated. The MHSAA did the right thing.
December 8th, 2017 at 10:49 AM ^
either. they aren't a creature of legistlative or statutory power. they are merely a private organization that most schools will follow their rules.
feel bad for the kid, though at least he has his offer and that's not going to get pulled.
December 8th, 2017 at 10:50 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 11:02 AM ^
You are correct it is common when kids transfer in a school of choice setting or to/from a private school. However, when a family physically moves to a new district this should not happen.
December 8th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^
The family did not move, just the kid moved.
December 8th, 2017 at 10:51 AM ^
go wolves
December 8th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^
I don't really have more than that to add.
December 8th, 2017 at 10:59 AM ^
He played against Clarkston over the last 2 seasons on a highly ranked Dakota team and already has a scholarship to a D1 university. He played with Foster Loyer over the summer in AAU ball but I would love to know how this move can be clearly viewed as "athletically motivated" considering all the factors.
Dakota should be ashamed of themselves considering all the uncontested high profile recruits they have pulled in over the last few seasons alone.
It's a bad look on Dakota's part and it's doing nothing but telling a teenage boy he can't play basketball during his final year of high school.
Considering how the MHSAA touts athletics as a vital part of education it hardly seems like the Chippewa Valley School District/Dakota and the MHSAA are thinking of the kid.
And he lives in Clarkston - this is not a matter of "school of choice."
December 8th, 2017 at 3:21 PM ^
His parents stayed in Macomb. He moved to Clarkston on his own (he's 18). He wanted to play with his AAU PG, who also plays at Clarkston ahd who's also committed to MSU.
It totally appears to be athletically motivated to me.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:00 AM ^
Collaborated has a positive connotation. Collusion is the word you are looking for. They colluded.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:58 AM ^
I'm pretty sure that's what the OP had in mind. No positive connotations there.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:08 AM ^
the kid transferred to a school to be coached by the dad of one of the msu assistants.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:14 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 11:09 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 11:19 AM ^
actual opiates.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:09 AM ^
I get there are rules to try to avoid parents and coaches gaming the system, but it's been known for a long time that the private and big time public schools recruit like crazy.
I think Tocco is just being vindictive because he can't beat Fife and Co as it is.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:10 AM ^
Since the family physically moved to the new district there should be no question. I would understand it if they were trying to circumvent rules like renting a tiny apartment and pretending that they moved but still living in their current home. If the family is actually now living in Clarkston this ruling is bullshit.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:19 AM ^
There was a story line in "Friday Night Lights" about something like that, and that actually happened with our football program. A kid "moved" to our district but was a troublemaker, and we then found out he was using a fake address (it was an empty lot). We took it upon ourselves to let the district know, and then he was sent to the right school. The parents "moved" two more times before his high school career was over, all the while staying at their same home address. The kid attended 4 different high schools.
People are weird.
December 8th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^
Did you read the article? It sounds like that's exactly what they're doing.
The mom and dad are staying in Macomb.
December 8th, 2017 at 4:20 PM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 11:10 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 11:22 AM ^
Just because another MSU commit goes there doesn't mean they shouldn't ever be able to attend the same school and play for the same team.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:49 AM ^
December 13th, 2017 at 5:42 PM ^
You can choose your school, you just can't necessarily play on the athletic teams there. That's been true for as long as we've had open enrollment districts. It's just affecting a lot more schools now than before (as in all of them).
December 8th, 2017 at 11:13 AM ^
Scouted him in high school. Rarely will meet a nicer kid with nicer parents. Pathetic move by MHSAA.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:15 AM ^
We need someone with ties to Dakota to give the rebuttal because I don't think we got an unbiased rundown of the facts from the Clarkston side.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:15 AM ^
Real dick move by Dakota, first by not signing off on the transfer and then to bitch and moan to the MHSAA about it just because you got your feelings hurt. I hope Clarkston kicks their ass again this year.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:17 AM ^
I assume he can't enroll at MSU early - and he can't play for any HS anywhere - so he loses a year of development. Good job, MHSAA.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:20 AM ^
Jermaine Jackson Jr. transferred from Mt Clemens. Jack Ballantyne came from DLS. Sounds hypocritical to me.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:29 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 1:01 PM ^
You're joking, right? Fife has never actively recruited that I know of. However, he has a great reputation in the state, and a few players have transferred in over the years of their own accord in order to be coached by him. Even taking that into account, the number of players that have transferred into Clarkston over the years is well below that of many other powerhouse programs.
December 8th, 2017 at 2:45 PM ^
I mean just look over the last 2 years, Alderson came from Davidson, Currie from Ohio, now Kithier tries to move. And those are just the ones I know of as someone that very casually follows HS ball. Clarkston is recruiting fast and furious and obivously it's paying off.
December 8th, 2017 at 5:34 PM ^
since when do high schools "recruit"??????????
High Schools are supposed to be based on where your parents live or has that changed?
December 8th, 2017 at 7:37 PM ^
his reputation for purity isn't quite what you think it is---particularly from the recruiting standpoint---no matter how good a Wolverine he might be. Plus, does anyone really believe that Fife and Clarkson aren't power brokers with the MHSAA?
December 8th, 2017 at 11:21 AM ^
What's funny about this whole situation is that a couple years back, when Jermaine Jackson took the head coaching job at Dakota, he brought over 3 players from his Mount Clemens team that made the state quarterfinals (including his son). Dakota has been doing this for some time, and everyone in the county knows it. The fact that Chippewa Valley was better at football this year was refreshing to see.
While we are on the topic of Macomb County dirty programs, don't let me get started on New Haven.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:36 AM ^
You are right. When he left Mt Clemens however is when they all transferred to Dakota.
Romeo Weems is another Mt Clemens player who New Haven poached away
December 8th, 2017 at 1:59 PM ^
that the Mt. Clemens team that won the State Title was all kinds of dirty (academics, kids from other districts, etc).
December 8th, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
Like school on Saturday....
Nooooooo class.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^
who gives a shit if its academically, athletically, girlfriend or lunch food related! If you move, no one should be able to tell you shit otherwise. Period.
December 8th, 2017 at 1:03 PM ^
Yep if you move you move. Although hyperbole, this is akin to a child not being able to take academic courses because a family was solely motivated by academics to move to a school district with a better academic reputation.
I guarantee this MHSAA board has no to limited legal training in admin law, due process, or determining intent. From looking briefly on Google, it looks like the individuals on the board making these decisions is composed of people without JD's etc. This is akin to how a lot of Title IX claims are overturned (including Drew Sterett's at UMich).
Futhermore, it is down right appalling that the MHSAA will punish a CHILD on a subjective analysis (and with the above caveat that the board seemingly has no/little training about how to: (1) conduct an investigation into intent; (2) apply due process; and (3) have an academic background in admin law) of the CHILD's parents intent to move somewhere and punish the CHILD for the parent's move.
Edit: *Look like the "rule" (posted below) is pretty clear, but I still find the decision and the rule bonkers.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^
This high school transfer and politics stuff is just nuts in football and basketball. Heck I've even seen it in Michigan high school swimming.
Here's this story from the Detroit NEws:
A move athletically motivated?! I'm shocked!
December 8th, 2017 at 11:35 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 11:35 AM ^
It all depends on how he phrased the move. If he said he was moving to play with his AAU and future MSU teammate then that is probably a violation of the rules if not in letter than at least in spirit. If he said that he was excited to be playing with the AAU teammate then that is likely fine. One describes intent the other doesn't.
That said, if the family actually changes their domicle to a new district I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to play. If they kept their house in Macomb as a homestead exemption for property taxes and are just renting an apartment in the clarkston school district then I'd say he shouldn't be allowed to play.
December 8th, 2017 at 12:48 PM ^
I will almost guarantee the MHSAA board who decides this type of thing has no training in administrative law/due process and couldn't judge intent if their life depended on it.
December 8th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^
https://www.mhsaa.com/Portals/0/Documents/AD%20Forms/Regulations%20Simp…
the practical effect is that if you clear it with the AD's, nobody cares.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:36 AM ^
If the family still has the same home in Macomb and have an apartment in the the Clarkston school district, is this considered a legitimate move?
December 8th, 2017 at 12:05 PM ^
I've known people who did something similar trying to get in-state tution at Michigan. The university was, and probably still is, very strict about establishing residence.