ColoradoBlue

August 25th, 2020 at 3:50 PM ^

I think I see what the Big 12 strategy is... kick the can down the road long enough for everyone to be infected and then use THAT as the reason against cancelling the season.  Brilliant.

The Deer Hunter

August 25th, 2020 at 6:06 PM ^

 Your hot takes are based on no data or common sense and you seem to be incapable of having logical conversation with anyone here and are only interested in spewing incoherent jibber jabber in attempts to pick tough guy internet fights. 

 

uofmchris1

August 25th, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^

And yet you see no mention of this at all on ESPN because it would destroy them if there was no college football this season. SHOCKING.

GGV

August 25th, 2020 at 4:29 PM ^

For most late teens or early 20-somethings, you're probably right.

BUT about: 

33% of the country has diabetes or prediabetes.

50% of the country has cardiovascular disease. 

50% of the country is clinically obese.

Fact is, America is pretty fucking sick as a baseline.

Covid will kill you if you have any of the above. 

ndscott50

August 25th, 2020 at 6:45 PM ^

WTF? "Covid will kill you if you have any of the above".  This is bullshit on the level of drinking bleach or shoving a UV light up your ass. Will kill you?  That’s fear mongering on a ridiculous level.

If Covid will kill you if you have these conditions how do we get the following IFR by age group?

Under 34 IFR is 0.01%

35 to 44 is 0.04%

45 to 54 is 0.2%

55 to 64 is 0.7%

65 to 74 is 2.4%

75 to 84 is 8.9%

85+ is 36.8%

Seriously, stop the fear mongering.

GGV

August 25th, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^

From the CDC

At least one underlying medical condition was reported for 8,134 (76.4%) of decedents for whom sup­plementary data were collected, including 83.1% of decedents aged <65 years. Overall, the most common underlying medical conditions were cardiovascular disease (60.9%), diabetes mellitus (39.5%), chronic kidney disease (20.8%), and chronic lung disease (19.2%) (Table 2). Among decedents aged <65 years, 83.1% had one or more underlying medical conditions. Among decedents aged ≥85 years, 69.5% had one or more underlying medical conditions. Diabetes was more common among decedents aged <65 years (49.6%) than among those aged ≥85 years (25.9%).

If you want to be pedantic about it, then change "will" to "can".

ndscott50

August 25th, 2020 at 11:01 PM ^

Can does not really help your statement unless you want to imply that without one if these conditions you can’t die. 
 

A ton of people on this board are ready to jump all over people who make statements that downplay the risk of Covid that are not well supported but statements like yours get cheered on when they are equally problematic.

Terrifying people into thinking Covid is a death sentence is not good for both their mental or physical heath and does not help us make good decisions about dealing with pandemic. Statements like if you are obese Covid can or will kill you are dangerous. Just look at the stories of people with serious health issues who are avoiding the doctor due to Covid fears as an example.

I know I flew off the handle at you but words matter. How about we try to provide good information to people so they can make rational decisions about their health. For the typical 45 year old in good health the threat of death from Covid could be as low as 0.1%. For somebody who has a heart condition it’s some multiple higher than that (I am sure there is some research out there providing a range of how much higher). I am also sure is not 10 percent. As a result they should take more precautions but not to the level that they are hiding in their house terrified, quit their job and don’t go to their doctor. 
 

 

 

chunkums

August 25th, 2020 at 4:41 PM ^

There's a lot we don't know about this virus right now. There has been enough research suggesting potential lasting effects even in people who had minor cases to give people who have brains cause for concern. I know you really want to watch college students play a game for your personal entertainment, but you're going to have to get over it. In the grand scheme of life football isn't actually that important. You're embarrassing yourself in this thread.

Bo Harbaugh

August 25th, 2020 at 4:41 PM ^

Buckeye...you really are slow and/or delusional.

So ESPN, which has nearly all its $, content, business and employment based on the existence of sports is spreading irrational fear about the virus to shut down sports - ie, their own business?

And the B1G school presidents have chosen to forgo a fall football season and lose out on tens of millions of dollars respectively (after losing out on all the NCAA tourney revenue) for political reasons or to create panic porn?

Sometimes (almost always) the answer isn't a conspiracy just because you disagree with the decision.  As in this case, a decision was made from facts and a risk assessment based on the best available data at the time. 

KingJames

August 25th, 2020 at 5:06 PM ^

ESPN is 80% owned by Disney. Disney's primary owner/shareholders are BlackRock and Vangaurd, BlackRock being the world's largest asset manager, with Vanguard not far behind. BlackRock and Vanguard are heavily invested in tech stocks and pharmaceutical stocks, with the value of tech stocks like Google, Amazon and Facebook skyrocketing due to the coronavirus fear-induced lockdowns causing greater dependence on digital technologies. Those pharma stocks owned by BlackRock and Vanguard are no doubt going to benefit from spreading coronavirus fear as well, considering that those investment firms will have a stake in whichever companies win the race to produce vaccines and to create treatments for the virus.

So, yes, the owners of ESPN will benefit from spreading coronavirus fear that shuts down sports. That's how conspiracies work.

KingJames

August 25th, 2020 at 10:06 PM ^

It's always hard to determine exact ownership, but that's by design. What is you point?

Biggest holders of Disney:

Notable Holders of The Walt Disney Company (dis)

VANGUARD GROUP INCCOM DISNEY148,574,9008.58%13F

STATE STREET CORPCOM DISNEY75,721,2694.37%13F

BlackRock Institutional Trust Company, N.A.COM DISNEY40,278,2712.33%13F

https://www.streetinsider.com/holdings.php?q=dis

crg

August 25th, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^

And yet all will miraculously (and conveniently) clear their quarantine before their first game (currently scheduled Sept 12 against a cupcake FCS team).

M Go Cue

August 25th, 2020 at 4:21 PM ^

Hey, in more optimistic news, Tennessee announced today they are planning on 25 percent capacity at Neyland Stadium this year.  Full steam ahead for some folks.  

M Go Cue

August 25th, 2020 at 4:32 PM ^

Well, the SEC has said for the last few years that “It just means more” and with this they’re definitely putting their money where their mouth is.  They just care about football more down there and are willing to risk more in order to make it happen.  I get it.  I also get the B1G not playing, but admittedly was a little perturbed by how early they made the call to cancel.

BuckeyeRealist13

August 25th, 2020 at 4:23 PM ^

This is a serious question - Has anyone on here even left their houses since mid march? The way people are talking on here is how the rest of the country was talking back in march and april lol. It's like I'm going back in time. 

BuckeyeRealist13

August 25th, 2020 at 4:31 PM ^

So you literally have been hiding in your house for 5 months. Jesus, get out, live a little. It isn't as bad as your governor and media is making it sound.

 

I feel sorry for the kids of Michigan who can't go to school or participate in athletics because of people like you guys.

I'm sure your travel baseball & other sports will continue to cross the border in Ohio to play the sports they love.

It is truly sad. 

schizontastic

August 25th, 2020 at 5:43 PM ^

This attitude of "get out and live a little. It isn't as bad as..." is a significant part of why the US has handled the virus so badly (along with many other factors...). 

And fine, you can risk your own health, but the problem is that everyone's actions affect community spread, so it is not just about yourself. 

Of course, in areas with well controlled community spread, some opening up is OK... but for example, I'm not going to host a group of my friends indoors of the forseeable future even though I live in a very well controlled area. It's a small sacrifice to keep community spread down...which is the key to ever keeping public schools open etc. 

Mongo

August 25th, 2020 at 4:25 PM ^

Oklahoma is finally implementing the ACC/SEC strategy ... herd immunity.  Get them invected, quarantine them for 10-14 days, test to make sure they are OK and ready to go by the Sept 26 opener.  Clemson's entire two-deep probably has the anti-body by now.

These schools are going to play ... the show must go on.

A Lot of Milk

August 25th, 2020 at 4:44 PM ^

SEC and Big 12 fans screaming for football, but I'm interested to see the fans' reactions when Oklahoma loses to TCU by 30 because they don't have an offensive line, or Alabama loses to Missouri because their secondary decided to party a week before the game