Juwan has been fired,
https://x.com/byazuniga/status/1768698885134819379?s=61
A sad, necessary day.
The thread two or so below this is now very funny.
The decision had already been made, lol.
That guy is one of the most insufferable posters on this blog.
In fairness, this was the tenth (and apparently last!) "Fire Harbaugh" thread, but:
Fire Harbaugh
Submitted by ThadMattasagoblin on November 28th, 2020 at 3:07 PM
At this point, he is no better than Hoke. It ain't getting better next year either.
This thread (title) is funny too, if you have read Mountains Beyond Mountains.
There, the main character was a doctor who used to say "blah blah blah blah, comma" when he meant "blah blah blah, asshole" (he just would say comma instead of asshole, to be polite, kind of).
So I read this thread title as "Juwan has been fired, asshole".
"0 years ago today a Michigan head basketball coach was fired" was a missed opportunity.
I know that this is what so many wanted but this sort of thing always makes me sad.
Juwan is part of Michigan lore, but as a coach he tried to do his best but he could not.
Actually, as I reflect when an OSU coach gets dumped that has the exact opposite effect on me.
I was about to post the same. Understand why but am sad it ended this way.
Hoiberg or bust!
Thanks for posting, I had a topic ready to go but didn’t want to double post! Good luck to Howard, still a legend here with some early success as a coach, just went south too fast. No clue who to look for as a replacement but basketball seems to be easier to rebuild than football if we can find the right guy.
Great player but terrible coach with anger issues. We can do better. Go Blue!
PS—Let’s at least consider Darian DeVries from Drake.
It is sad it came to this, but it had to be done. Time to start the CC threads.
CC: Sabathia
CC Pounder
CC: Music Factory
CC: Biggs
CeCe Winans
CC Rider
Isiah Rider
CC Rider
Cici's Pizza
What other errands do you have us running for the DA?!?
That's "CCH" Pounder.
Or are you finally taking the advice of so many people on this blog and getting the H out of here?
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Edit: never mind my bad
Well, thanks for the offer, pumpkin, but I wasn't replying to you.
My bad, it's hard to tell on these boards.
Even still, be nice to SQ. We all go through tough times.
C(e)C(e) Peniston
CC: Pedro
(for my major league fans)
CC=mL
C.C. DeVille
CC: I told ya so
Thank you Warde
Firing Howard two days after the season should be expected.
Up until now, the fire Warde vs Warde is doing a good job behind the scenes points of view are all speculation.
The next step, though, is all within the AD’s scope of responsibility and this is where Warde’s legacy will be made. If he is a great AD then they would have made a list of their top 3 possible candidates long ago and have a plan to execute a replacement hire in 2-3 weeks. On the other hand, if the plan is to start a committee and hire a search firm and spend a month shooting blanks then I will join the Fire Warde chorus.
Only thing sad is how long it took to happen
48 hours???
Firing Juwan mid-season doesn't accelerate anything, especially if you are not planning to elevate someone currently on staff. It could actually be more damaging regarding big donors given Juwan's history with the school.
I don't understand the faction on this board who are so adamant that firing Juwan during the season would somehow have been better for Michigan's basketball program.
Firing Howard earlier, perhaps keeps Sanderson. Which, is arguably more important than keeping Juwan to finish out an 8-25 season only to get axed 2 days later.
Sanderson was gone the moment the incident happened. Firing Juwan when that occurred, if the incident does not merit firing on its own, looks bad and leaves open the question whether he was able to coach well. Depending upon circumstances could even look ugly and publicly embarrassing.
Michigan needed to give him a chance to coach the full season. On-court performance simply didn’t merit dismissal before this year’s results, and as we should recall the Sanderson incident happened before he was even all the way back from surgery.
Well, that's certainly one way to look at it. Another is that one of those men had a sterling reputation and the other had made the university look "ugly" and "embarrassing" in the past already.
Hire slow and fire fast. It's the way good business and organizations are run.
It was like the second or third physical altercation he'd been involved in. They could've let him go right then.
Well there is the Ohio State example, though I don't think that would have worked out the same way for us. I'm fine with how it went but don't think anyone was crazy for wanting it done sooner. I just wanted it done by Monday and that has happened.
Diebler was already on staff at OSU. That was my point. If you think you have a great candidate on staff, sure, elevate him mid-season to get a test run of what he would do when he runs the show before officially hiring him just to be safe. If that is not the case and you know you are hiring outside the program, let the current coach finish it off unless there is a truly egregious situation which has taken place.
It happened as soon as the season ended. Michigan lets coaches, particularly lifetime Michigan men, finish seasons. There is nothing wrong with the timing at all.
People just want an excuse to be mad.
Michigan lets coaches, particularly lifetime Michigan men, finish seasons.
Bullshit. Why is this a rule? When there are clear signs of demise with no upside and justifiable cause, you change immediately. We could've inject some fresh energy and different vibe. We could've gotten a head start on the search. We could've perhaps seen more effort and different results. OSU went 7-1 after Holtman firing and 20-12 (in the quarters of BTT) on the verge of making the tournament. Not that we would've had the similar outcome but worth the change and attempt. Things weren't gonna get any worse. Instead, we prolong because "we're Michigan" and let this slip into the worst season in program history. Firing Juwan mid-season was viable and should've been justified and done. This unspoken rule of "Michigan doesn't fire coaches mid-season" is just a crock of shit.
Let's say Juwan was fired mid-season. Who do you elevate to the head coaching role? Martelli? Eisley? Washington? I doubt any of those three are candidates to replace Juwan so why give them an interim role? This is the difference between Michigan and OSU's situation.
Get a head start on a the coaching search? I'm guessing a couple prerequisites for the next head coach is that he is already a head coach in college and he is good enough his team will be playing in March Madness. Who are you going to hire before the season ends or the tournament begins? Would you really want a coach who is willing to leave their current team mid-season or right before the tourney starts? I know it happened to Michigan many years ago with Frieder and Fisher, but come on.
SJRK, few things. You are correct. The timing was absolutely correct. There was no on-staff replacement ready to step in; the season needed to conclude with a sad, definitive confirmation of it being a disaster.
About people needing an excuse to be mad? I think it's more the case that they just don't know the prudent way for an organization to exit bad situations.
Welp.
Thank God
I'm a big softie and I generally don't celebrate people losing their jobs unless they get canned for doing something truly terrible. I feel bad for him even if he's still stupid rich, but this was emphatically the right decision. Hopefully he lands on his feet somewhere and that he stops being such a hothead.
Yeah man. Whats finally done is done. Wishing him the best. He's a great fit for something, and he'll find it.
Hopefully remembered moreso for the positive times with Michigan.