October 31st, 2020 at 9:19 PM ^
Seth is that you? Ace?
October 31st, 2020 at 9:44 PM ^
Could be WD's new or multiple spare burner accounts???
November 1st, 2020 at 7:29 PM ^
It’s Joel Klatt.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:21 PM ^
I’m guessing this is a sarcastic response to the thread suggesting JH wasn’t that great being removed by butt hurt mods?
October 31st, 2020 at 9:40 PM ^
I removed that thread because the OP was nothing but a hot take by Dennis Fithian. There are already four---4---yes, count them, f-o-u-r threads still active on the board discussing firing Harbaugh/finding his replacement.
Not to mention the pinned Snowflakes threads.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:46 PM ^
Rob, if this site had threads configured such that recent activity would keep them prominently displayed, this problem might not exist.
Do we really need Snowflake threads to occupy the top four of seven slots displayed on the message board for close to a day?
October 31st, 2020 at 9:53 PM ^
The answer to your question is found here:
https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/end-ot-season-your-guide-transition
Please see #1 "snowflake threads", as posted by LSA.
The policy has essentially been the same like forever in MGoYears.
(edit @ 10:30pm: I believe LSA has generally left the snowflake threads posted at least until midnight after day games and overnight after night games)
October 31st, 2020 at 10:05 PM ^
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Snowflake
Snowflake:
"A very sensitive person. Someone who is easily hurt or offended by the statements or actions of others.
This has nothing to do with politics. Snowflakes can be liberal or conservative. Whether it is a compliment or an insult is a matter of opinion and depends on the context."
Exactly why we have snowflake threads. Because "Fire Harbaugh" ones and ones criticizing or demanding better from the program have been offending our sensitive MOM's "like forever in MGoYears."
October 31st, 2020 at 10:14 PM ^
You're obviously new here. We've had the aptly-named "Snowflake threads" longer than I've been on the board, and much longer than the word "snowflake" has been overused as a political put-down .
Did you even bother reading that linked "end of OT season" post?
(Edit: also has nothing to do with this or any other "MOM" being offended and everything to do with keeping clutter from burying much more threadworthy posts. That's why this one is also likely to be deleted very soon unless it turns out that worthwhile discussion broke out here and there.)
November 1st, 2020 at 1:13 AM ^
That's a bad definition of "snowflake." The term originated from people that thought they were special, and thus felt their opinion was SO important it deserved its own thread. Since no two snowflakes are the same, the term was adopted. It's also how the term is utilized here.
I have no clue how or why the term became rebranded to mean something that has nothing to do with what a snowflake is. At least there's a logical reason to misrepresent the term "troll".
November 1st, 2020 at 12:11 PM ^
While everyone is beating you up why was my uofmchris1 account banned?
Someone started a political thread weeks ago, and I chimed in with 1 comment about the Mayor of Chicago's hairdo and you ban me because someone thought it was a racist comment? Wtf.
Get off your high horse man.
November 2nd, 2020 at 12:15 PM ^
"Everyone" isn't "beating me up" and my horse isn't high.
If you don't like my decision, take it up with Seth by emailing him, his contact information is readily available on the MGoBlog home page.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:21 PM ^
Too soon MFS97.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:22 PM ^
Even the strongest Harbaugh supporters can't defend this loss, it's inexcusable. And it's officially time to start looking at other coaches. And before the inevitable "Who can we hire that's better?" question rolls in, we need to stop pretending there aren't great options out there such as Joe Brady, Matt Campbell, Mario Cristobal, Chris Petersen, Luke Fickell, Brent Venables, etc. It's time to move on...
October 31st, 2020 at 9:27 PM ^
I would take every one of those guys you mentioned over shitty ass Harbaugh.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:32 PM ^
Whoa...Adam Sandler? No.
cristobal I could get behind. Not sold on Campbell. Peterson is a maybe, and joe Brady would be a huge unknown.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:39 PM ^
What's the likelihood that any of those coaches would take the Michigan head coaching job now, considering the current state of the program?
Didn't Chris Petersen say that he stepped away from coaching at Washington because of the stress and anxiety? How much less stress and anxiety would he find as Michigan's head coach?
October 31st, 2020 at 9:44 PM ^
My point was to just say there are options out there. Didn't Urban Meyer say the same thing about stress before taking the OSU job? Michigan has a lot of money and it's always a destination job in College Football.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:30 PM ^
Michigan is a destination job in the sense that a guy who comes here probably won't leave for another job. But that doesn't mean that we can just hire anyone. We didn't have the easiest time filling the position in 2007 or 2011, and I really don't know what we would have done in 2014 if Harbaugh hadn't been available.
We're in a tricky spot right now as a program, where it might be possible to hit a home run, but also very possible that we strike out. It's the Rob Deer position.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:42 PM ^
+1 for the excellent "Rob Deer'' reference.
October 31st, 2020 at 11:12 PM ^
Six years in it's not difficult to ascertain we already struck out going on 3 times now. Rob was a .220 hitter, he's due for a moon shot.
November 1st, 2020 at 8:10 AM ^
Harbaugh wasn't a strikeout hire. He made the program better. But he may have been thrown out at third trying to stretch a double into a triple.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:51 PM ^
You can find guys with decent track records, but 1) would any of them actually come here and 2) does their résumé actually look better than Harbaugh's? I mean, Jim took a team to the Super Bowl.
Fanbases tend to convince themselves that wherever they are is the floor and they can only get better. This is not necessarily true. Jim's been our best coach since Carr. Maybe he's on the downswing, time will tell, but the next guy might do worse.
I do think it's time to part ways with Don Brown though. He's lost his fastball.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:59 PM ^
Why are people only blaming Don Brown? Did you watch the offensive gameplan today? There literally wasn't one except run up the gut and get put in 3rd and long over and over, which has Harbaugh written all over it. It's not going to change, it's over.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:02 PM ^
I'm not only blaming Brown, but I'm pretty confident saying he's past his prime. Gattis I'm not sure about.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:00 PM ^
I remember thinking that Harbaughs NFL and Super Bowl experience would make him much “smarter” and better at “player development” than any college coach. Turns out that didn’t mean jack shit. He’s tactically dumb, and he can’t motivate a drowning man to put on a life preserver. He’s weird, awkward, and continues to underperform.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:04 PM ^
If you look at how Michigan football has done the last 20 years, is he underperforming, or is that just where we are now?
October 31st, 2020 at 10:29 PM ^
UNDER-FUCKING-PERFORMING!!!
Not too long ago we use to compete for B1G championships and every now and then go to this now mythical place called the Rose Bowl. We have not one the B1G since 2004!
November 1st, 2020 at 1:47 AM ^
That was in the days before divisions. A large number of our championships were shared. We are exactly where we were at in the waning days of the Lloyd Carr era.
November 1st, 2020 at 10:23 PM ^
Except without ONE Big Ten Championship ( not even a conference title game ) or a National Championship.
Time to go Harbaugh.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:11 PM ^
I've always liked your posts Coldwater. For the most part you've gone against the grain on this board, but I hope there is a lot of silent support out there for your viewpoints.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:02 PM ^
Track record? Who cares. Tucker, a guy with one losing season as head coach just beat our coach with a good track record who ‘took a team to the super bowl.’
we don’t need a guy that’s already proven he can win on the big stage, we need a guy who has shown enough promise and is hungry enough to win on the big stage.
Harbs, thanks for restoring some consistency after the Hoke and RR eras but I’m afraid a change is needed.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:10 PM ^
The idea is to find elite head coaching talent--not a track record. It's not necessarily in the coordinator ranks. Urban Meyer and Dabo Swinney were NOT coordinators before they become 1st time head coaches.
The problem for Michigan is 1) there is ZERO in their processes within the athletic department that makes you think they can uncover an elite coaching talent and 2) Harbaugh is not going to be the easiest guy to fire unless the team completely goes off the rails.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:52 PM ^
I would just roll with Gattis after this year. Really can't get much worse
October 31st, 2020 at 9:56 PM ^
It was just a little over a week ago that more than a couple people here were saying they’d rather have PJ Fleck.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:12 PM ^
If Fleck were coaching this team, I put $1000 down that we beat Michigan St. Today.
Im tired off the quirky odd khaki wearing coach that simply can’t get the job done.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:14 PM ^
Not that I'm advocating for Fleck but I would be interested to see what he could do with a team that can nationally recruit. Whomever that may be if he garners more success at Minn.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:17 PM ^
Eh Fleck could probably produce the same so dogshit results as Harbz. Beat one rival 50% of the time over 6 years and always lose to the other one. Maybe we can get him for cheaper so we don’t pay top 5 results for a sometimes top 25 program.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:21 PM ^
Still would, if I'm being completely honest.
October 31st, 2020 at 11:15 PM ^
Agreed. I was in that camp defending Fleck.
But then the Kool-Aid came on the front page after the beatdown and it was all forgotten.
November 1st, 2020 at 1:08 AM ^
Did you watch Minnesota last night? PJ Fleck is RR 2.0
November 1st, 2020 at 1:19 AM ^
Nonsense. He made Minnesota relevant. No small task. Fleck is a fine coach. Made WMU ranked too. He needs an uptick in recruiting.
But if we want to catch OSU then only Meyer, or maybe d'Antonio would do it. I do like Allen too. Maybe Fickell.
November 1st, 2020 at 2:14 AM ^
How has he made Minnesota relevant?
November 1st, 2020 at 12:58 AM ^
After the bowl loss to Florida, I suggested Brent Venables as a replacement for Harbaugh. I was eviscerated.
November 1st, 2020 at 1:19 AM ^
Rightfully so
October 31st, 2020 at 9:54 PM ^
Forget being “out recruited”....he isn’t developing players while they are at Michigan. This Michigan team should have crushed this sorry Michigan State team.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:05 PM ^
^^this. Dantonio left a lot of holes with recruiting, not to mention the attrition that program had. No way should we ever lose this game.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:28 PM ^
Yikes
October 31st, 2020 at 9:31 PM ^
Borat?
Is that you?
October 31st, 2020 at 9:33 PM ^
Not now please