Jabrill Peppers: Heisman Hype
Jabrill Peppers is getting some Heisman hype. Current odds are 25:1
Do you think he could be the second defensive player to win it? Maybe not 2016 but 2017?
http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/article/4690985-heisman-trophy-odds-…
January 13th, 2016 at 11:39 AM ^
The only way Jabrill is going to win the Heisman is if he has a big season offensively. He's not going to get enough chances at safety for interceptions. A season of 4 INTS, 4 sacks, couple of forced fumbles, 300 yards rushing, 300 yards receiving, and 6-7 TD's would give him a shot.
January 13th, 2016 at 12:03 PM ^
I think these numbers look right for national attention. Another big factor for the committee is that we also need to likely be a 1 loss team, max, and win B1G.
January 13th, 2016 at 12:07 PM ^
and even so, a safety set NCAA interception record 2 years ago.
Plus, he basically dropped 4-5 INTs this past season as it was. I'd say those numbers are well in possible range, but fewer receiving yards, more rushing, more sacks or tackles for loss, and a return TD or two.
January 13th, 2016 at 1:55 PM ^
In what world is Jabrill not a safety? He's listed as a safety on the roster, safety on Wikipedia, played Safety/Nickel all year, stated he was a safety on Twitter, and was named a second team All-American as a Safety this season.
January 13th, 2016 at 2:49 PM ^
January 13th, 2016 at 12:17 PM ^
Agreed, but event then he'll still be competing against a junior Christian McCaffrey in a top 10 Stanford squad and a senior Deshaun Watson. McCaffree won't fly under the east coast media's radar this year. That will be tought to beat.
January 13th, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^
Peppers is a great player, but at Michigan, it's less about the HEI5MAN and more about The Team, The Team, The Team!
January 13th, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^
January 13th, 2016 at 11:47 AM ^
Two birds, one stone.
January 13th, 2016 at 11:45 AM ^
In terms of previous and potential production, I'd say Chesson has a better shot of winning the Heisman than Jabrill.
January 13th, 2016 at 11:50 AM ^
Not since Tim Brown in 1987 has a primary WR won the award. If Chesson has a season worthy of the Heisman, it's likely that O'Korn or whoever the starting QB is will be the one in NYC for the presentation.
January 13th, 2016 at 11:53 AM ^
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January 13th, 2016 at 3:49 PM ^
Whenever people talk about the last pure WR to win the award, people skip Des and go all the way to Tim Brown. I thought Tim took a punt back for a TD against Sparty, but it must have been a different big play.
But Desmond had the kick return TD against BC to open the season and everyone remembers the OSU return.
January 13th, 2016 at 11:50 AM ^
The Heisman has become the "offensive player of the year" award. I think the only way Peppers could pull it off, is if he has some explosive plays/touchdowns on offense, maybe a return or two for a TD. Think Honeybadger, but a better utilized offensive weapon.
January 13th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^
January 13th, 2016 at 12:34 PM ^
January 13th, 2016 at 12:43 PM ^
Good point. I would be curious, though, to see the voting history over the years. Traditionally, the Heisman has always been the offensive MVP, but it seems like there are less and less non-QB/RB/WR candidates now than ever. Hell, even Orlando Pace got some votes in 96 as a offensive tackle.
January 13th, 2016 at 11:50 AM ^
he is going to be playing as much offense as he is defense so I think it is entirely possible.
January 13th, 2016 at 12:10 PM ^
January 13th, 2016 at 12:12 PM ^
This is going to be a long offseason, isn't it?
January 13th, 2016 at 12:14 PM ^
Oh god, this brings back to the HE16MAN hype before the 2010 season. Let us slow our collective roll.
January 13th, 2016 at 12:14 PM ^
it will be incredibly tough for him to win the Heisman with Fournette, McAffery, and Watson all return and will get all the hype. He would have to have a season like no one has ever seen before.
January 13th, 2016 at 12:32 PM ^
I hope he stays for 2017 but even if he doesnt he has a great chance to become the best defensive player in the country but i dont think he has a shot at the heisman. I feel like the only reason he was getting carries at running back was because our running back production struggled against the good teams. If the citrus bowl is any indication we should be fine running the ball next season which might limit his carries.
January 13th, 2016 at 12:36 PM ^
also improving his pass coverage skills. He is still hit or miss in man coverage and as such teams tried to exploit that this past year vs. going after Jordan Lewis. Making big plays with ints, punt returns, etc. won't be enough if his pass coverage isn't close to shut down status.
January 13th, 2016 at 12:36 PM ^
love it!
January 13th, 2016 at 12:44 PM ^
If we are blowing out teams I can see him being held back on offense until the MSU game.
Then unleash the hounds. !!!!
January 13th, 2016 at 12:50 PM ^
Just thinking about how Denard was a touchdown/long run breaking machine and did not get to the podium.
That said, I hope he shatters my expectations!
It definitely has to start with a highlight reel.
I recall the season Dez won it, it was almost every time he dropped back to receive there was a palatable chance he was going to house it. Nothing soaks up airtime like Kick and punt returns* because you can't just show a couple camera angles and circus catch, TV must show it all start to finish.
* and FG returns as the Sabanator will tell you!
January 13th, 2016 at 1:28 PM ^
Look at the numbers Christian McCaffrey put up this year. If he has another season anything like this next year, there is no way Peppers can compete with that.
Plus Deshaun Watson is back too and he might have a better shot at it than McCaffrey
The Heisman field is as loaded as I can ever remember it. It would take some major injuries and or performance disappointments for Peppers to even register in the discussion IMO. And that is no slight to Peppers, just a reality for a defensive player. Defensive players are going to have a lot of trouble when there are multiple offenisve guys putting up video game numbers on national title contending teams. IMO Woodson was only able to beat Manning because Michigan was undefeated and Tennessee was once again an also-ran.
January 13th, 2016 at 2:00 PM ^
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January 13th, 2016 at 2:39 PM ^
Field is as loaded as I can ever remember it. I don't see ANY defensive player having a shot in hell. If all of those guys perform like they did this year, I don't even think 1997 Charles Woodson could pull it off.
Obviously injuries and players not performing could change things.
January 13th, 2016 at 1:57 PM ^
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January 13th, 2016 at 1:59 PM ^
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January 13th, 2016 at 2:20 PM ^
It seems like there is a pretty packed field of potential Heisman candidates right now, particularly considering who is returning on various teams. Right now, it's difficult to say that he has a better shot necessarily than anyone of maybe 10 or 15 players at least, but I will say that if he has a great first half of the year at least, hearing a Michigan player in the faint echoes of early Heisman talk - a primarily defensive one at that - would be very nice indeed.
January 13th, 2016 at 3:15 PM ^
Based on what I saw the past few weeks Christian McCaffrey or Deshaun Watson are the 2 most impressive players in CFB. I am sure Fournette is up there too. Peppers is an excellent player but won't have the numbers - I think it will be nearly impossible for a primarily defensive player to ever win again. I don't know how many INTs Charles had the year he won but you have to remember the did big things in big games. Running back a punt for a TD vs OSU, INT that still plays on highlight films vs MSU, etc. Peppers would need a Desmond King like INT rate (I believe he had 8) to even get in top 5 IMO - that was not a strong suit for him.... and then combine that with Will Likely type danger on punt returns which right now he is not there.
Adoree Jackson if he played on the East Coast and Peppers are probably the 2 most dynamic defensive players in the country in terms of being able to do it all but like McCaffrey Jackson is hurt by playing on the left coast.
January 13th, 2016 at 4:27 PM ^
Historically did any hype help Charles Woodson (the first and only primarily defensive player to win the trophy)? Or did his spectacular play?
Don't worry about the odds - if he turns in a Woodsonesque performance the betting action will be centered on Michigan winning the national championship.
Peppers is the most explosive player in the country, and when i go to vegas next week, i am considering betting on him to win the Heisman.