It's official, Giles Jackson is in the portal
March 29th, 2021 at 11:24 AM ^
1. Roman Wilson
2. AJ Henning
3. Ronnie Bell
4. Cornelius Johnson
5. Cristian Dixon
6. Andrel Anthony
7. Xavier Worthy
I'd say the WR room is loaded. Young but loaded.
March 29th, 2021 at 11:28 AM ^
2020 Stats
1. Roman Wilson-9 catches 122 yards
2. AJ Henning-6 catchs 59 yards
3. Ronnie Bell-26 catches 401 yards
4. Cornelius Johnson-16 catches 254 yards
5. Cristian Dixon-0 catches
6. Andrel Anthony- 0 catches
7. Xavier Worthy- 0 catches, Is jacksons friend, will he even come now?
This is loaded to you?
March 29th, 2021 at 11:48 AM ^
OP is confusing "loaded" with "numerous bodies"....those two things are not the same
March 29th, 2021 at 11:56 AM ^
It's been so long since we've had good to great wide receiver play (2016) people on here don't even know what it looks like anymore and will try to justify anything as "having potential".
Hoke's teams had better receiving by far than Harbaugh's teams since 2016.
March 30th, 2021 at 12:01 AM ^
What would the stats look like if Mcnamara started from game 1, and they ran the offense like they did against Rutgers....Throwing the ball downfield and being aggressive. I don't really blame the WR corp.....Milton was so bad, the coaches had no confidence in him throwing downfield, and the routes the recievers were running weren't the greatest. How many times was there 2 WRs in the same 5 yard area downfield. How does a guy like Milton win the job in the first place when it was so obvious Mcnamara was much better throwing the ball. Talent wise, Michigan could be in 4 and 5 wideout sets and throwing the ball at least 30-40 times a game. You get a guy like Wilson or Henning on a Safety and attack them. Just like PSU did with Hamler against us. Gattis talks about creating mismatches all the time, but outside of Giles running a few wheel routes from out of the backfield, i've yet to see the offense create mismatches consistently. Apparently speed in space is throwing a quick out and hoping they break it for a big play. If you put Wilson, Henning, Bell, Johnson, Worthy/Sainristril on the field at once i'm not sure there's a team in the Big10 outside OSU that has the athletes to cover all those guys. The combination of poor QB play, and the passing game from a playcalling and scheme standpoint is atrocious.
March 29th, 2021 at 11:32 AM ^
I like your optimism, but that group has under 100 total receptions and like 10 total TD's.
Looking this up, I'm surprised R. Bell and Cornelius Johnson have the same amount of TD's (4) and Giles only had 1 receiving TD(I know he was big-time on returning).
March 29th, 2021 at 12:25 PM ^
Loaded lololololol. Honestly I feel bad for JJ or McNamara or whoever the QB is gonna be this fall. I never thought Michigan football and our fan base would become this pitiful. Sigh...
Are we even sure worthy is coming now? Weren't jackson and worthy really close and wanted to play together or was that all hearsay (read bullshit)?
March 29th, 2021 at 11:35 AM ^
Whenever I hear about guys entering the portal I wonder where we stand relative to the mean. I understand that a lot more players are moving around, and I don't begrudge anyone a chance to find their best landing spot, but I also know that depth in college football is huge.
I think a diary comparing the number of players we lose to the portal to similar programs would be interesting.
March 29th, 2021 at 11:43 AM ^
I don't think that Michigan is necessarily losing more players to the portal than other programs. However I do believe that we are bringing in far fewer transfers than the norm and that is a bigger issue considering the portals ever expanding presence.
March 29th, 2021 at 11:38 AM ^
whats the last skill player max out at Michigan? Im not talking about players that were over rated. Denard comes to my mind
March 29th, 2021 at 11:57 AM ^
Amara Darboh and Jehu Chesson were pretty good
March 29th, 2021 at 12:10 PM ^
They got the max out of Jake Butt too
March 29th, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^
Ok i agree with you guys ... so its been 5-6 years with guys that played most of their careers under Hoke
March 29th, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^
I'm not defending Harbaugh, all three of those guys were Hoke recruits. I remember the consensus after 2016 being "Harbaugh is amazing for how much he got out of a bunch of Hoke recruits, wait until he gets his guys". Lmao.
March 29th, 2021 at 12:10 PM ^
I read that top DT Walter Nolen wants to wear #0 in college. Staff needs to get that jersey ready for his OV.
March 29th, 2021 at 12:47 PM ^
He was on campus this weekend
I'd settle for just spelling his name correctly.
March 29th, 2021 at 12:21 PM ^
Basketball school
March 29th, 2021 at 12:23 PM ^
When players transferred during the RR era everyone blamed the poor culture. When players transfer during the harbaugh shit show it’s because they have been passed up by heisman winning talent. Thank you Jim for burying the program deeper into the dirt. RR and Hoke would be proud. Thank god for Juwan!! BEAT THE BRUINS!
March 29th, 2021 at 12:58 PM ^
I know the transfer portal is a thing now that all teams have to deal with, but rarely do I see starting players from good teams transfer on such a continual basis. When will the bleeding stop?
That said, we do have some talent at the WR position. The question just is how much of it will rise? And is depending on Freshmen to shine ever a good thing? Who will take up return duties? I think that's where the biggest drop off will be.
Huh, well nobody will be happy when there are a couple more defensive departures at the end of spring. It's hard to get excited about the program anymore. 2021 will be brutal.
Honestly, people really don't care anymore. Harbaugh has run this program into the ground and set things so far back, that it's almost become expected that news like this comes out.
We are a basketball school now.
I'm still scratching my head around the fact that Harbaugh was given an extension and not his termination papers.
I wouldn't lay the fault squarely on the head of Harbaugh but it may just be the final nail in the coffin. Fact is this apathy goes back all the way to Coach Carr, back when fans actually cared because we had something to cheer about. BUT, he was also a perennial 9-10 win guy and not much more (other than 1997, we will always have 1997). Then comes Rich Rod, Brady Hoke and finally the golden boy, Jim Harbaugh. It's just one let down after another for three successive coaches and going on what now, 14 seasons? I find myself looking more forward to basketball season now that football, especially with the success of the women as well.
Every spring we are led to believe the team is going to come out and be competitive and other than a couple seasons that has been largely false. Couple that with some modest September success and the November crashes, and we are setup for an annual hope in the team only to be crushed by the end. This year is already looking like a barn fire, especially the defense, so I do believe most fans simply won't care or pay attention. UM football may have finally hit the apathetic wall.
And the fact that Giles is sending Worthy a message to come with him doesn't help either.
It's hard to keep the skill positions happy when your primary goal on offense is to run as few plays as possible every game.
This news made me realize I'm mostly just numb to Michigan football.
Anyway, signal extraction is hard in college football. Transfers could be a team-specific problem or just part of a growing trend in college sports.
For me the story is like this: something has been off with the team since at least The Game 2018. Army, Wisconsin, OSU 2019, Patterson's seeming regression as a QB. McCaffrey transferring. Nico and Ambry opting out. 2020 being the worst season since 2008. Players looking joyless and hopeless, giving up on at least one game. Carpenter transferring, and now Jackson.
It's possible to find an extenuating circumstance for each of those things. It's always possible to explain away on a micro level every little piece of evidence of collapse on the macro level. Next year will give us more data to work with. It's always possible they'll be awesome this fall, and someone like Henning or Wilson will turn out to be a no-doubter All-B1G WR. But I think the data we have now paints a bleak picture.
Something has felt "off" to me since the 2017 season when Harbaugh seemingly turned into a completely different person for reasons that aren't really known but have been pretty heavily speculated around here and on other platforms. That feeling was confirmed in the 2017 game against MSU when he had John O' Korn trying to pass in a torrential downpour. It's been downhill ever since. Even in 2018 when they had another 10-3 record, they still lost to the best teams on the schedule and beat up on a bunch of cupcakes and other teams that ended up being average at best.
Come to think of it, outside of his first two seasons when it looked like he really was building something special and maybe just had some really shitty luck (the punt against MSU in 2015, Speight getting hurt @ Iowa and the OSU game in 2016), it's pretty mind-boggling when you consider that the prodigal son has been very underwhelming for MOST of his time here.
Fast guy that we could never make use of his ability. McDoom 2.0
Wow! That sucks! Hopefully worthy sticks around! Good luck to him!
Ah, round and round we go. Hard to build a team when your up and comers leave as they're about to step into upperclassman roles. Already sick of the reflexive BS narrative "this is healthy attrition" because it means our younger players are passing him - at this point, in year 7 or whatever, this is indicative of the rot in the program and why we can't ever step forward. Next year, when AJ Henning, or whomever leaves, we'll all be in this spot saying the same thing...
“Younger players passing them” is the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard. Some fans are just completely blind to reality. Harbaugh could kill someone in front of their eyes and they would still defend the guy.
If Brian still did 28 tickets (which, relatedly, why did he stop!?), guaranteed that Giles, Charbonnet, and Milton would have been in the 2020 top 10, and two of them probably in the top 5. You cannot keep hemorraging top-end talent and hope to compete! But, as with most commentators, I agree - very blase about it now - we're a basketball school.
Basketball only please until 6th.
This one, like all the others, is on Harbaugh.
I have to say I'm more surprised by this than by most. Jackson seemed to be a real booster for the program and may have been instrumental in getting Worthy and other recruits here.
He was also great as a kick returner and one of our sub 4-3 guys. He may have even been the #1 receiver.
We had this complete coaching overhaul, except for Gattis. Maybe he felt he was being passed up?
Maybe he just didn't like the direction Gattis was going? Whatever the reason and despite the depth at the position, this still feels like a pretty big loss and another case of misused talent. Who on the roster had more explosive plays than Jackson in the last 2 years? He could've been the poster boy for 'Speed in Space' Now we're going to have to watch his flashes of brilliance on another team.
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Good luck. Can’t blame him for bailing on this shambolic operation.
Guys leave for all sorts of reasons unrelated to football...without more information, its tough to say why he left.
Good luck to the kid wherever he ends up
March 29th, 2021 at 10:46 PM ^
I’m not stressed to be honest. This could be a move that has nothing to do with football we don’t know. But I’m not too worried about Jackson leaving when you have guys like Ronnie Bell, Cornelius Johnson, Roman Wilson, AJ Henning and the incoming crop of freshmen I’m not worried at all about the wide receiver room.
Giles Jackson's mom liking a tweet calling out Harbaugh for his incompetence on that twitter thread says it all.
The program is a mess. The man who created the toxic culture is also in charge of fixing it. Good luck.
Still could be that he just got passed up on the depth chart. Parents will get mad because no way their special snowflake could ever be passed up so therefore the coach must just be incompetent.
But who knows. I'm pretty sure Harbaugh is coaching at UM 2 more seasons max at UM.