November 7th, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^
Offense bad
coaching bad
defense bad
playcalling bad
corners bad
erick all’s hands bad
Don Brown going to be fired good
November 7th, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^
Sucks!
November 7th, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^
Ha! The offense?
November 7th, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^
Maybe abandon running up the middle for no gain before you trail by 3 scores. Milton threw for 344 yards and 3 TD, but it was too late to matter. Those plays have Harbaugh written all over them.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:10 PM ^
Agree on the Harbaugh finger prints. The game plans for MSU & this game were so utterly different from Minnesota, it baffles me.
I have zero proof, but it just reeks of Gattis calling Minnesota, and then at some point Harbaugh interjecting starting with MSU. Zero designed QB runs, very little edge running plays, and the OL who was nearly flawless against MN in terms of assignments & blitz pickups are suddenly screwing up assignments left & right.
November 7th, 2020 at 5:42 PM ^
Wholeheartedly agree. These last two weeks feel a bit like when 2016 and 2017 when Drevno, Harbaugh and Fisch/Hamilton all had their hands in the jar instead of just letting one OC call the plays. It must have been extremely confusing for the OL.
November 7th, 2020 at 7:50 PM ^
I really think Harbaugh felt he could beat MSU and Indiana without putting Milton at risk. I think he feels the season is gone if he loses Milton - it may be gone with Milton.
November 7th, 2020 at 11:11 PM ^
this is the only good reason that they haven't been running Milton with abandon
November 8th, 2020 at 12:09 AM ^
Crap sakes, how do you give four freaking guys the coordinator's responsibilities? The Roman empire existed in one form or another for over a thousand years because one guy was chosen to be a leader of each legion, etc. One guy, he fails, next man up until you find the right guy who succeeds. Never did they try four guys in charge of one legion.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:42 PM ^
Offensive, but the young guys on the OL are clearly not ready.
Stop giving All playing time.
November 7th, 2020 at 5:43 PM ^
Upvoted, but All is a very good blocker, at least.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:42 PM ^
The o line wasnt to bad in pass pro. I called for screens and quick passes but i didnt see to much of that.
Harbaugh is calling the plays until the game gets out of hand then he passes it to Gattis.
November 7th, 2020 at 5:03 PM ^
So I guess we all just choose to believe whatever we hope is true, even when all the evidence says otherwise?
Harbaugh doesn't carry a call sheet. He's not standing next to Gattis and talking to him on every play. I suppose we just decide to believe he's sending in the plays via telepathy, because we want to?
And why would anyone have any confidence that Gattis would call the game any differently than they're being called? In his infinite wisdom, Harbaugh hired an offensive coordinator who had never been the playcaller at any of the schools he had coached at, and who had been passed over for offensive coordinator positions when they came open at schools he was coaching at, not once, but twice. Just because he says, "Speed in Space" a lot, and designs some good plays, doesn't mean that he'll call the game well. Gattis has a grand total of 15 games calling plays; but we're supposed to just accept as fact that he's called the games that went well, while JH has called the game where the playcalling sucked, because it gives us hope?
November 7th, 2020 at 6:53 PM ^
You aren’t understanding that it’s about the prep where Harbaugh has his fingerprints involved. Yes Gattis calls the plays but you are nuts to think that’s all Gattis on that play sheet. Plus it doesn’t take much to say “I want a run here” on the headset
It wasn’t much different with Carr either except it was more here is the playbook make it work to the new OC
November 7th, 2020 at 7:28 PM ^
I don't want to get snarky. I respect you and your opinion. But I need to ask: do you have any evidence whatsoever that Gattis isn't responsible for all the calls on the sheet, and/or isn't responsible for the overall offensive gameplan? Unless I'm missing something-- which I admit I could be-- it seems to me like you got excited about a new OC with no track record, made a bunch of assumptions about what type of game he would call, and are treating those assumptions as if they're established truths.
There are many possible explanations for why Gattis might be calling games the way he is, that have nothing to do with Harbaugh. The simplest is that this is simply where he's at as a gameplanner and play caller, at this point in his career. Another pretty simple explanation would be that he sees these players every day in practice, sees how they perform, and is actually calling the plays that suit this group of players, however ugly the result may be.
I'm not claiming to have proof that JH isn't meddling. What I'm saying is, I don't see any evidence that he is meddling, and I don't think that is the most likely hypothesis.
November 8th, 2020 at 9:05 AM ^
Thank you for your intelligent opinions in this thread. They are obviously needed.
November 8th, 2020 at 8:37 PM ^
That's fine and all if you think this is gattis calling plays, but why the fuck would we stop doing all the screen passes or similar plays like we did constantly against minnesota?
Corum caught i believe one of the only passes like that yesterday and he took it for 22 yards...
Also, we completely stopped doing any motion and direct QB runs to keep the defense honest.. the last 2 games. It is completely baffling
November 7th, 2020 at 3:43 PM ^
Joe Milton has great potential and will be good I think. As to the coaches, fire everyone.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:43 PM ^
So we hitting the transfer portal next year for a quarter back why jj simmers for awhile? Or does a new coach bring his qb? Kidding or I'm I?
November 7th, 2020 at 3:43 PM ^
We can't run the ball and we can't catch the ball. Milton could have been better, but he's extremely low on my list of concerns. I'm still high on him.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:54 PM ^
It would be nice if he had a QB coach who could teach him to put some air under the ball.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^
I don't understand how we had good gameplans late last year and we revert to this garbage. Milton can't throw deep but we pushed DCaff out? What the hell were they thinking?
November 7th, 2020 at 5:38 PM ^
I'm thinking now that DCaff isn't transferring because of losing the QB battle to Milton but because he saw the tire fir the team had become.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^
We can't run the ball and we can't catch the ball. Milton could have been better, but he's extremely low on my list of concerns. I'm still high on him.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:46 PM ^
Over throwing wide open receivers with nothing but an open field and the end zone in sight is a concern!
November 7th, 2020 at 4:21 PM ^
Bell slowed up for a second during the route
November 7th, 2020 at 3:46 PM ^
13 yards on 18 carries. Can any other words paint a worse picture than that?
November 7th, 2020 at 3:58 PM ^
MGoOptimists thought that losing 4 offensive linemen to the NFL wouldn’t be a big deal because of Warinner. Experience matters. Worst pre-season prediction was Ace saying Charbonnet would lead the Big10 in rushing yards. Outside of 1 run against Minnesota, he’s been invisible because this line is just a collection of spare parts.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
Teams we are losing to have these issues. Stop making excuses.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:45 PM ^
It’s not an excuse. It’s a statement of fact. Our line is inexperienced. Losing both starting tackles doesn’t help. I’m not excusing Harbaugh. His roster management is horrible. It’s reminiscent of when RichRod stocked the roster with WRs and ignored the offensive line. Harbaugh put together a roster that is sorely lacking CB talent, DT, and LB depth. That’s on him. OSU reloads. Michigan didn’t reload this year due to recruiting misses, transfers, and guys sitting out.
November 8th, 2020 at 7:06 AM ^
None of the teams we have lost to have experienced anywhere near this level of attrition.
November 7th, 2020 at 9:44 PM ^
ZC had 1 carry
November 7th, 2020 at 3:51 PM ^
I never thought I’d live to see the day where we couldn’t run the ball on Indiana. There is a systemic problem going on with the coaches and the entire program right now. Preparation is not right, weight room is not right..... film work, confidence, talent level it’s all shit
November 7th, 2020 at 7:44 PM ^
Can we just stick with one or two RB? I hate seeing our leading rusher only gets 6 carries a game. Evans does not look good but they continue to rush him up the middle.
November 7th, 2020 at 9:47 PM ^
This has frustrated me for the last few years....Haskins and Charbonnet are the best backs and they got a combined 7 carries today....makes zero sense
November 7th, 2020 at 3:53 PM ^
We weren't great but I'm willing to stick up for this side of the ball a little more. We are super young, we were missing both our tackles and had a QB making his 3rd start. It scares me to blow this side of the ball up with a coaching change because I see the potential. Almost everyone is back next year and I like the scheme.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:58 PM ^
It’s not the 70’s or 80’s anymore. A school like Michigan should be re-loading in year 6 of a coach’s tenure. Even Iowa can go 8-4 every year now.
November 7th, 2020 at 10:09 PM ^
This is so delusional. There's 3 schools in the country that can simply reload and not miss a beat. Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State. That's it, that's the list. Oklahoma, Georgia, LSU, Penn State have all taken a step back this year so lets all stop pretending that we're at the level of the former teams mentioned.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:53 PM ^
It’s nowhere near as bad as the defense.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:59 PM ^
They are both equally bad.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^
The offense ? It sucks
November 7th, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^
Flip the ball into the flat more. Use Milton as a run threat on every play. No clue why they used it in game 1 and have abandoned it in the last two games. Gattis had a series of great game plans, but the plan and adjustments have been really poor in the last two games.
As for this year, threaten Milton as a run threat on every play. Don't just fake but use Henning and Corum as routine outlets in the run game. There isn't a perfect solution, but they have some options to be a little more diverse. Shockingly, they appear to have emptied the bag for a bleh Minnesota team and look out of sorts now.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^
How come it's so easy for us to see? And we're not even getting paid millions!!!
November 7th, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^
it just seems like Michigan is holding back until things are out of control...
As bad as Michigan was in the first, they were better in the second because, imo, they were given a bit more freedom to push harder.
Milton was pretty good in the second half - though that int he threw was a bad one that came at a pivotal moment in the game...
Michigan's offense isn't terrible; but the game plans are way too conservative. You can do that when you have a great defense, but with this defense, you have to put points on the board.
November 8th, 2020 at 12:38 AM ^
This all day long. I feel like we have a ton of speed and guys that can make you miss at the skill positions. But we are choosing the most conservative play calls. Why the fuck do we recruit Corum, Henning and Wilson if we are not going to involve them in plays that get them in space? We did it like three or four times in this game and that's it. Maybe it's because the defense can't hump the ruck? IDK, it's all very confusing and frustrating. Michigan should've been all up into Indiana's shit all day long on offense and there we were punting it more often than not. Fuck it all.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^
A few more big plays today but seriously lacking compared to what Indiana did today.
Play calling changes when a team fall behind by 2 or more scores in the 2nd half.
What happened to our running game? I know the OL is new and that's a good part of it.
Thank you Ronnie Bell!
November 7th, 2020 at 4:01 PM ^
Must- *drools* -establish- *drools* -the *drools* - run
November 7th, 2020 at 4:02 PM ^
Ga has a walkon qb that is better than any qb harbaugh has had in six years by a wide margin. Qb whisperer
November 7th, 2020 at 4:06 PM ^
offense sucks