Indiana Snowflakes: The Defense

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on October 14th, 2023 at 11:30 PM

This is the thread for hot takes about the defense and the defensive playcalling. 

JHumich

October 14th, 2023 at 3:27 PM ^

Best defense I can remember at Michigan. Feels a little like 1997, when it was just as exciting to watch defensive series as it was offensive series.

ShoelacesFlapp…

October 14th, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^

Another great performance, but would be nice to fix the basic zone coverages before PSU. They're not explosive, but Allar can matriculate it down the field with the short passing game.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

October 14th, 2023 at 3:39 PM ^

Still no points-allowed >10 on the season. We also maintain the fact that opponents has snapped the ball zero times within our 10 YL** (zero goal-to-gos through *seven* games)!!

**Granted IU got literally as close as possible to ending that before being pushed back by Michigan and poor discipline.

Way to go, D (starters and the deep bench)! A lot of this is opponent-invariant and(or) that is unknown but it’s at the very least accomplished vanishingly rarely across history no matter the competing historical litany of poor SOSes. Our D is both different and every bit as impactful as in 2022, 2021, 2016, 2006, and 1997.

And it’s not implausible that we’re watching the literal best of those.

Lost in Columbus

October 15th, 2023 at 12:35 PM ^

I don’t like the take ‘woke up’. That makes it sound like they were not taking the game seriously or started lazy. As the players said, they played basic formations to get a feel for the new IU OC plays they had not seen in film. Once the UM coaches saw a few series and a feel for IU tendencies, they got players in the right positions to stop IU.

UMForLife

October 14th, 2023 at 3:40 PM ^

That TD on trick play was overcome very well by D. Glad to see some good test for the secondary. They are only going to get better and better each week. Sabb is an INT machine. He is going to be really good next year. Overall, good play. It is hard to know what to expect with two QBs playing and a brand new OC calling plays. They adjusted well and dominated. 

MRunner73

October 14th, 2023 at 3:42 PM ^

It wasn't pretty after 15 minutes. Indiana could run and pass and then had a 1st and goal and then scored to up 7-0. After that, it was lights out. Almost gave up a late garbage TD but it was called back. 

Very good QB pressures a few good sacks plus forcing a fumble and T/O. Saab had another INT. They played according to script for the last 45 minutes, allowing lass than 60 yds of offense after the 1st quarter.

I'd rather see them start strong, especially next week against sparty.

HAILtotheVICTOR33

October 14th, 2023 at 3:42 PM ^

I think the combination of Indiana having a bye week, switching offensive coordinators, and switching quarterbacks made the defense a bit tentative, but once they realized it was still Indiana they stuffed them in a box like they should! Great job D!

Durham Blue

October 14th, 2023 at 3:43 PM ^

The only score was a TD on a well executed trick play.  Four turnovers forced with three of them takeaways.  Again, we were giving the opposing offense a lot of short yardage plays but it's happened just about every game so it's more of the plan rather than errors in scheme or execution.

This D is elite.

stephenrjking

October 14th, 2023 at 4:19 PM ^

It was, but despite my post above there are some non-trivial concerns. One wide open deep completion wiped out by an unrelated penalty was just really  bad coverage, and I would have liked better awareness on the trick play. Harder to see from field level, but looked clear that something was up from the getgo. 

KBLOW

October 15th, 2023 at 1:04 PM ^

The Big Ten has potential pros and great coaches on all of its teams and also sometimes you're just going to get beat long for a variety of reasons: The DC got RPS'ed, CBs slip and fall sometimes, or maybe even the opposing WR is a truly horrible blocker who would never start or even be recruited for UM just b/c of that, but they're really, really fast. Setting "not getting beat long ever' as an expectation is silly. 

J. Redux

October 14th, 2023 at 9:53 PM ^

I was yelling "Pass! Pass! Pass!" as soon as I saw the play start to develop.  Unfortunately, Keon didn't hear me. :)  I recognized it immediately because the wide receiver took a couple of steps backwards before the pass was thrown; the only reason you do that is if it's a double pass.

Oh well; teaching moment.

I was very glad that the second IU touchdown turned out to be out of bounds, though. That would have been a bittersweet ending, particularly after Jaydon Hood's blistering hit and forced fumble ended up resulting in an IU gain when it just as easily could have been a turnover. (I assume the ball carrier must have recovered, which is why the fumble yardage counted?)

KBLOW

October 15th, 2023 at 1:09 PM ^

Another part of that play was that one of the (three IIRC) UM defenders on the edge was running right at the IU player who threw the pass and seemed to weirdly let up just enough to give him more time to make a pass. If he had kept going full blast I think he could've disrupted the throw.

AlbanyBlue

October 14th, 2023 at 3:45 PM ^

Overall, the customary dominating performance marred by getting got in the first quarter. Short passing game and some rushing success for Indiana, and then the long TD, which Gus and Joel said was on Sabb. Once Minter got what they were doing downloaded, that was it though. Suffocation. 

Seemed like the defense had to get up to speed on a cold, wet day in Ann Arbor. That's all. Once that happened, destruction.

SD Larry

October 14th, 2023 at 4:09 PM ^

Lot of Ballers played today.  Everybody ate after Indiana's double pass for TD.  We have good depth on the D Line and it pays off over the course of a full game.

 

 

jhayes1189

October 14th, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^

Way too comfortable giving up 6 yards on every first down in the 1st quarter, but maybe this is just Minters way of scouting an offensive coordinator he never seen?

 

Dominant after the 1st quarter and lone TD. Looked like a different set of 11 last 3/4 of game