Indiana Snowflakes: The Coaching

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This will be the repository for your thoughts and hot takes on the overall coaching during our game against Indiana.

Toby Flenderson

October 14th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^

Speight was awful this year. What has he shown this season that makes him seem as if he is a quality QB? Was it the two pick 6's against Florida? The overthrows to Grant Perry? The flick pass against Air Force that was almost picked off? Or is it his sitting duck mentality in the pocket when the pocket collapses?

O'Korn sucks, Speight sucks, and apparently Peters suck. All three are poor options. 

Blueblood2991

October 14th, 2017 at 4:11 PM ^

Would've liked to see Peters get a shot when we were up ten just to see what he could do.

You have to start OKorn next week at PSU now, but if he gets hurt or plays terrible Peters could've used the reps.

Ghost of Fritz…

October 14th, 2017 at 4:12 PM ^

if you are going to play to protect yout 10 point lead and, therefore, not allow O'Korn to throw, then why on Earth would you allow your punter to kick it to their dangerous return man?  Kick it out of bounds.

That mistake gave IU a short field and also a momentum shift. 

 

Ghost of Fritz…

October 14th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^

Nothing suggests he was trying to kick it out of bounds. 

To be fair, they could have called an illegal block on IU.  It was borderline.  They did not throw the flag.

But if you are going to play to not lose (avoid anything high risk), then why kick the ball in bounds?  Why give the refs a chance to miss a call?  Why give IU a chance to get a big return.

michfan23

October 14th, 2017 at 4:13 PM ^

A win. That’s all I care about. Indiana always acts like this is one of their biggest games on the schedule. (Because I’m sure it is) You had to know it was going to be close. JOK is terrible. I agree, but if Peters isn’t playing it’s for a reason. He’s young, you think he knows the offense? You think he handles his first start on the road? Nope. I bet that 99% of the JOK haters were Speight haters 3 weeks ago. You called for JOK, you got him. How’s that working out? Oh, not well you say, then let’s put in a freshman who will get killed. I don’t know about most of you. Must be drinking or smoking too much.
Bottom line: Michigan isn’t good. Non delusional fans recognized they would have growing pains this year. This win gets us closer to the predictable result of 8-4.

As far as coaching. One complaint. Off sides formation seemed far too thin on the one side. Other than that, what’s to complain about. Harbaugh managed the game like it was an nfl game where the clock makes all the difference. His team couldn’t get a first down to seal the game. What would you rather he call? A pass??? Didn’t think so. If we want to complain, it’s not the coaches fault at all today. Penalties? Players commit those and the refs were touchy on PI calls.

maizenbluedevil

October 14th, 2017 at 10:55 PM ^

“Young” “freshman” Peters is not a true freshman. He’s an RS freshman and was an early enrollee. He has been on campus for approaching 2 years at this point. That’s not enough time? Meanwhile, Texas rolled into USC with a true freshman and nearly won. Also at night, also on the road. The notion that’s so prevalent on this board that it’s categorically impossible for young QBs to do anything better than suck as much as JOK did today, is getting silly.

GuitarPicker

October 14th, 2017 at 4:13 PM ^

As I put in another thread - we can beat Rutgers everything else is a loss or a toss up. The offense is horrible. A big part of that though is trying to run against a D that is daring you to throw it. O'Korn isn't seeing the whole field - isn't looking to second or third options. I guess we can commend the rushing totals today against a D that knew the run was comming? Maybe? Is that a thing? I don't know man - I thought we would be further along at this point. 

 

Next week Michigan 6 points ... PSU all the rest of the points. 

RJWolvie

October 14th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^

he's RB & TE, iirc: they're the only half-decent unit on the field. Problem seemed mostly in O-Coord lap, today at least. But: take the road win, against a much-improved Indy squad: Go Blue!

Also hope none of those injuries are more than a day or two of soreness

Ham

October 14th, 2017 at 4:16 PM ^

Let’s not forget punting straight to their best weapon when their offense had been doing nothing all game and Michigan was a series or two away from winning. Complete coaching implosion from everyone whose name doesn’t rhyme with Bon Drown. Did everything they needed to to lose.

RJWolvie

October 14th, 2017 at 4:16 PM ^

Hate to say it, but: Tressel Ball -- conservative as hell power football on O, and let your D win it with bare minimum of O support being all you can expect

enlightenedbum

October 14th, 2017 at 4:16 PM ^

Coached that game basically appropriately except not giving Peters a shot.  Which they obviously should have done because O'Korn was terrible.  Missed wide open dudes consistently.  Had a good game plan, ran the ball effectively, had open receivers most of the time we tried to throw, and the QB either missed the read or the throw or didn't get the snap off on time.

BlueMk1690

October 14th, 2017 at 4:17 PM ^

..you should have play action all day. The fact we don't is an indictment of just about everyone on offense including the coaches.

The issue with the criticism of Hamilton/Drevno - which is fair - is that you can't make Harbaugh switch coordinators. It never works. He needs to realize himself that he can do better. My only concern with Harbaugh when he was hired was that he'd be too conservative and we'd be back to the issues under Hoke. Well the first two years it seemed like Harbaugh had enough tricks up his sleeve to make even a pro-style offense be a bit unpredictable and dangerous, but this year that's all gone and we're at a point where running a dozen times consecutively up the middle is our best option on offense.

Amutnal

October 14th, 2017 at 4:21 PM ^

When has running 3 straight times trying to seal a Game or come from behind EVER worked out for Harbaugh. Iowa last year. Loss. MSU last year loss. Ohio state. Loss. MSU this year resulted in punt more times than not. Florida state got the ball back and ended up coming from behind to win. Penalties or special teams errors do happen but it seems like that’s not accounted for. Such dumb football.

MGrether

October 14th, 2017 at 4:30 PM ^

Positives:
- less turnovers
- less QB pressure/sacks
- running back w/ over 200 yards + 3 tds.

This felt like OSU 2002, where they won close games their offense should not have won. Play conservative, try to win field position. Win by defense & special teams. Remove the late punt return, and Michigan wins in regulation.

When you come off a performance with 5 turnovers and a bunch of sacks.... with young WRs and a questionable oline/pass protection... what kind of offensive game plan did you expect? Also, there were open people that were either overthrown or not looked at.

Gipsy_Danger

October 14th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^

This is the best we can do with 11 million spent a year for offense? Highest in the CFB. The coaching can do so much better. 

Waiting for people to keep saying the offensive staff are not underperforming. Check the blinders at the door please.