If you didn't know about Chris Evans
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Pulling for Chris. Love that he didn't run from his screw up.
March 25th, 2019 at 12:49 PM ^
Absolutely have to respect his decision and effort to make things right.
I hope he comes back for many reasons, one of which is that someone (Evans) FINALLY used the word "humbling" correctly.
Agreed. Pet peeve.
Wait, how do people typically use it?
"Wow, I can't believe I won the MVP and the national championship and an Oscar and a Pulitzer and a Clio! This is so incredibly humbling!"
No it's not. It's the exact opposite of humbling. It's just that people say "humbling" to try and project modesty. One is not abased, or suffers any loss of dignity, which is what "humbled" or "humbling" means, by winning awards.
I agree with this completely and it drives me nuts. Getting knocked down a peg is humbling. Being awarded or winning something is not. At all. It's one of the stupidest things people say, and one of those "I don't actually know what this means but I hear other people say it so I will too" sort of things.
any mention of "humbling" without "the old country way" is immediately invalid.
March 25th, 2019 at 11:59 PM ^
True. It's almost as if award winners would be saying, "I'm deeply humiliated to have won this award."
It sounds like he is trying to rectify his mistakes with a positive attitude. I would expect nothing less. I hope this is a valuable life lesson for him, and I will be cheeeing for him to return and accomplish his goals.
He still runs like a Deere. Ads - can't avoid 'em.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:45 AM ^
If he runs like a Deere, that implies he only runs as fast as a tractor.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:54 AM ^
Maybe it’s a really fast tractor.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:59 AM ^
I seen a few of those in my day
March 25th, 2019 at 11:41 AM ^
Username checks out.
March 25th, 2019 at 11:55 AM ^
you wanna race, hillbilly? what you got under the hood of that deere?
I don't own one. Can't afford it.
Probably roadkill
Don't knock tractors. My dad learned to operate one of those when he was 12 or 13, several years before learning to drive a car.
(I know you are not knocking tractors, just wanted to mention my dad in a comment)
how do you think my kids learned/are learning how to drive? we start them young, but with the tractor safety seats i have to put a bag of feed on the driver's seat so the combined weight of feed and child will sink the seat down enough to let the tractor run. first plowing and mowing, then i move them into working the front end loader and snow blowing simultaneously, that's a pretty good divided attention task.
the tractor i learned to use a clutch on was an old Ford POS. that thing could take a beating. being the tractor at a summer camp could not have been good for its engine or clutch.
I, too, learned to drive (by about the age of 13 or 14) on a Ford Tractor, hauling trailer loads of peaches, pears, and apples on my Grandpa's fruit farm. The tractors I drove were very small, relatively speaking, when compared to the monster machines most farmers use nowadays, but back then they were huge to me.
You gotta love this kid, and if there is redemption in the world.... he'll get his 2nd chance and make the most of it.
March 25th, 2019 at 12:27 PM ^
For real! How many of us have made a horrific decision and yet owed up to it and was willing to make all the amends necessary? I don't think I learned that lesson fully until I was in my 30's. Kid is learning one amazing lesson and is acting with more maturity than I had at that age.
Given that he was expelled, he's probably already burned through his second chance. Academic misconduct doesn't usually result in expulsion for a first offense.
His thighs look great though. I'm rooting for him to make it back.
Sooooo, academic related but not grades? Any speculation on what the issue is?
I mean, an academic issue that isn't grades and is open to appeal before a conduct board is almost certainly some form of academic misconduct/dishonesty. Those obviously come in different forms of severity, sounds like this may be on the lower end of the spectrum.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Just wondering if anyone heard anything more specific. Regardless, hope it goes well for Evans and he gets things back in order.
Do we really need specific details? We know enough already.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:22 AM ^
Agreed. Some times it is weird to know so much about people we don't know, beyond playing for a team we root for.
Knowing that he made a mistake, he owns up to the mistake, and it is in the realm of severity that he can look at fixing things and getting back on track, I'm fine with it.
I am a strong believer that sports can help kids who mess up and can fix things and give them an opportunity to get back on track. Love how he is using himself and his situation as an example to other kids he mentors. t's an important lesson that everyone is far from perfect and will make mistakes. It's how you act and respond after the mistake that defines you.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:41 AM ^
Never said we needed specific details. Just curious, that's all. And if he really doesn't want to talk about it and just wants to do what he needs to do, I get that. Although, I will say doing an interview with the Detroit News probably isn't the best way to avoid speculation and questions about what happened. Frankly, I hadn't thought about it since he was removed from the team. Only after seeing the article did I ask the question.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:57 AM ^
Never said we needed specific details.
Above you said precisely :
Just wondering if anyone heard anything more specific.
March 25th, 2019 at 11:51 AM ^
Again, never said NEEDED it. "Just wondering" is much different than need to know or even entitled to know. I know we will not agree on this, so I will just move on. Have a great day!!
March 25th, 2019 at 10:06 AM ^
...sounds like this may be on the lower end of the spectrum.
At Michigan, the spectrum goes from "zero on the assignment" to "zero/F in the class" to something worse that requires the university to get involved. The fact that he's currently out of school suggests that you're completely wrong.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:42 AM ^
The fact that the door isn't completely shut to the future, and that he used the phrase "on pace to graduate," suggests that you can just shut up and appreciate that he's taking his medicine and doing all the right things to get back.
Anyone can give into temptation in a moment.
For him to be working back this way is a greater demonstration of character than we often have any opportunity to see from a young man.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:44 AM ^
Actually dickhead, you can eat some shit. He can say whatever he wants and he can also appeal the initial decision that kicked him out of school.
Go scream #fakenews at your TV you fucking idiot.
March 25th, 2019 at 11:02 AM ^
Why do you even post here, when you seem to hate everyone?
March 25th, 2019 at 11:12 AM ^
Wow, what a rational response. Also, he was suspended for a year, not permanently expelled, so that would indicate a less serious infraction.
I actually lol'd reading this response. So much anger over such a trivial post.
You seem perfectly stable and well-adjusted.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:22 AM ^
Academic issues are not public for obviously good reasons, but I wish there would be some way to confirm them in this case if only to stop the speculation.
I don't think academic issues on the lower end of the spectrum get you totally kicked off the team and out of school--whatever happened, it had to be bad enough that failing the exam/project/class was not enough punishment. On the other hand, you're correct that it is not quite bad enough that it's a permanent ban. Which is encouraging, and my guess is that it's likely due to the goodwill he built from being a good kid.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:27 AM ^
There is not a default "permanent ban". All serious academic breaches can be appealed to a board that consists of... faculty and students, which is what he had done after being thrown out of school in the primary hearing.
He seriously fucked up and there's zero information to suggest that he's not gone for good. Maybe he gets back in because he seems to be taking responsibility, but we have to see how it plays out.
March 25th, 2019 at 10:35 AM ^
harsh take. could be accurate, but it could be he did something pretty mild but now we over react. i took a bunch of tests for my teammates at michigan, or wrote so big and shoved my test papers from side to side and left them there so much that mr. magoo could've seen what the answer was. would you kick us all out for that?
March 25th, 2019 at 10:45 AM ^
There's nothing harsh about a factual response. I'm a professor. I deal with this shit all the time - including at Michigan (in the past).
It takes A LOT to get what Chris got. Tons of cheaters get a slap on the wrist from their professors. Chris didn't. That means something. Also, I wouldn't "kick you out", because as a professor I don't have that power. That's a school dean or above level decision.
Some dean decided to kick Chris out of school. That takes a lot of fucking up.
March 25th, 2019 at 11:49 AM ^
'he seriously f.*&*&ed up' are your harsh words, and based on what, your good guess?
i'm not saying he didn't screw up, i'm just saying we probably shouldn't jump too fast or too far into conclusions, particularly harsh ones, for a kid that seems by all other measures to be a high-character achiever.
EDIT: just saw your response to jhumich, above. you might want to go outside and enjoy the sunshine, get some exercise, maybe its spring break for you professor? looks like a lot of unnecessary angst aimed at your mgopals.
March 25th, 2019 at 12:16 PM ^
I have lived my entire life surrounded by professors. You sir, are no professor.
I know people exaggerate on internet message boards, but most try to remain somewhat plausible.
March 25th, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
I would think that a professor would be cognizant of the fact that punishments can be somewhat arbitrary and capricious even with similar offenses; when I was a TA in grad school I definitely saw people get dramatically different punishments for what amounted to similar offenses based on factors that might be mitigated down the line.
Nobody rational is saying that Evans doesn't deserve to be punished; as you noted a dean kicking you out of school isn't usually a "you copied someone's homework" type of offense. But the degree of "lot of fucking up" is pretty broad; it could well be a offense he can recover from.
And Harbaugh has made it pretty clear in the past when he's "done" with a player in terms of a return being viable, and that doesn't seem to be the case here. And honestly, Evans as a player doesn't really matter to me all that much; he's a senior RB whose production can probably be replicated from other players on the team. But for whatever reason, I sort of want to see Evans succeed, and if it's possible for him to make amends I don't see why anyone would be against that.
March 25th, 2019 at 12:49 PM ^
"Actually dickhead, you can eat some shit. He can say whatever he wants and he can also appeal the initial decision that kicked him out of school. Go scream #fakenews at your TV you fucking idiot."
"I'm a professor."
I would bet that most educational institutions would be mightily impressed if one of their faculty maintained an anonymous account on a sports blog and used it to tell others they're dickheads who can eat shit.
March 25th, 2019 at 12:13 PM ^
It wouldn't have been an academic suspension if it were "pretty mild".
" i took a bunch of tests for my teammates at michigan, ...would you kick us all out for that? "
Yes.
March 25th, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
glad the statute of limitations has long since passed. tough crowd of moralists here.