Hype Train: Sam Webb edition
Let's end on a positive note...This team looks good. Really good. I believe Wilton Speight has greater command of the offense than Jake Rudiock did last year at this time. I still believe Michigan will roll into Columbus undefeated. There is every reason to believe that all the lofty expectations placed on Michigan this year are attainable.Sam Webb
September 1st, 2016 at 1:14 PM ^
September 1st, 2016 at 10:57 AM ^
Fellow UM fan who is an alum and was in the Marching Band posted on FB that what you suggest is true, and 3 other players might have issues too.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:06 AM ^
September 1st, 2016 at 11:10 AM ^
Any more info? This doesn't feel like a promising start to the season. I thought they were in a hotel all week? How much trouble could they possibly have gotten into?
September 1st, 2016 at 11:13 AM ^
for "disciplinary" issues, Jim needs to calm the fuck down a bit. Unless people are doing some seriously harmful and/or illegal things, it's ok to let some stuff slide.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:44 AM ^
Is that you?
September 1st, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^
I want the highest character guys playing for Michigan. One of my biggest gripes with RR was him trying to get questionable guys on the team.
I don't know what the rumors are in regards to any alleged infractions or suspensions, but it does seem like we're hearing about them more often these days. My inclination is to trust the coaches when it comes to this sort of thing, and Harbaugh certainly demands a lot more of his players than many (if not most) other coaches, but I wonder if it's possible to run too tight of a ship.
I mean, these guys are 18-22. They're going to do some dumb shit from time to time.
And Jim Harbaugh was no saint when he was playing in Ann Arbor.
September 1st, 2016 at 12:28 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 11:16 AM ^
Does anyone actually thingk we're doing anyone a favor by not mentioning the players alleged to have been suspended? If its on social media, just say it with the caveat that this IS A RUMOR.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:23 AM ^
September 1st, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^
Every little thing gets a life on Facebook, Twitter, etc. Sounds like it's something that could warrant discipline, but kids used to get sat down for a quarter, half or entire game and we know nothing about it. I remember someone didn't play against Iowa one year because of a midseason root canal without a coach's blessing. He never made that mistake again.
FWIW, it's better to teach these kids a lesson now as opposed to letting things go and we end up sitting three key guys against MSU or OSU.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:19 AM ^
There is something to this. I sent Brian a note earlier in the week. Will he sit an entire game? Maybe, but I highly doubt it. Nothing serious, but a message is being sent. Could it be more than one player? Indications are yes. We need Saturday to get here to see for ourselves!!!
September 1st, 2016 at 11:26 AM ^
Are you talking about Jabrill?
Might as well just be clear about it, otherwise rumors can run wild.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:27 AM ^
Nobody will know anything more until Saturday either.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:34 AM ^
In other words, Jabrill and possibly other players will be conspicuously absent when their position groups take the field. Maybe a series, maybe a half, very small chance of a single game. Perhaps guys bugging out of the hotel after curfew, or getting into a fight in a bar, or something like that. It's not permanent and, of course, it shouldn't affect the team overall.
Still all rumor. And if John O'Korn is named the starter, perhaps this information will be questionable, but of course we've just been through a thing with umbig11. If it's true that he has sent a note to Brian (who is not exactly unconnected himself) and Brian's unreserved optimism regarding certain named players continues, it's safe to say that this is a thing and that it's not a very serious thing.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^
BTW this is a big reason why I prefer playing a minnow to open the season. If you play a big game, the coach can either: 1. Choose to overlook stuff he'd rather address properly because the game is too important, or 2. Go through with the discipline and jeopardize the team's chances of winning.
September 1st, 2016 at 3:37 PM ^
I guess we know more today...
https://twitter.com/JabrillPeppers/status/771429102305763328
Idk where the rumor came from but no I am not suspended lol
— JP5 (@JabrillPeppers) September 1, 2016
September 1st, 2016 at 4:43 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^
The others are nothing serious as well, just a message being sent?
Hold me UMBIG11
September 1st, 2016 at 11:14 AM ^
This is all very much vague rumor at this point.
Were it to be true, this would be very unfortunate. We've almost gotten through the preseason without serious discipline or injury issues; it would be nice to keep that going.
But, as a vague rumor, we have no idea what scope we're talking about. A couple of one-game suspensions is very disappointing but is the sort of thing that will be forgotten by the meat of the season.
September 1st, 2016 at 10:49 AM ^
We are beating Ohio State. We faced an absolutely loaded team last year while employing a terrible defensive gameplan and we still hung with them for a half. This year we get a middle of reloading team....a team who will probably be a monster next year. Yep, they have a season to improve, but so do we. Look at our team from Utah to Florida last year and it's night and day. Be afraid of us. Excuse me while I run through this wall.
September 1st, 2016 at 12:33 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 10:51 AM ^
Herbie usually props us up. Not this year. He suggests that our returning starters will be eclipsed by their last year back-ups and freshman talent. This is nonsense. I smell fear. Road warriors.
September 1st, 2016 at 10:53 AM ^
Can't wait til Saturday... excited to see how Speight does. My gut tells me the offense may not run as smoothly as some would like (see the "Guess the score" thread, with many predictions in the upper 40s and 50s). I would guess there are some kinks that need to get ironed out and it will take him a few games for him to get comfortable, a la Rudock last season. The good news: he's basically got 3 exhibition games to begin his career as the starter.
Want to see that defense in action too. Let's get the season started with another multiple game shutout streak.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:10 AM ^
"Greater command" stuff. Rudock came into Michigan having commanded a Big Ten offense for multiple seasons. Gleaning how much one "commands" an offense before a game even starts is a bit iffy.
We'll know how much he commands the team when the going gets rough and they look to him for guidance.
The rest of it, fine. I believe this team has what it takes to go far. But I don't agree with that portion.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:13 AM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^
QB play wasn't really that good to start the season last year. Agree that we'll need to the QB's on Saturdays, but I don't think it's that far fetched for Speight/O'Korn to be looking better in practice right now than Rudock did a year ago. Most of our Rudock memories are filled with the great second half of the season he had, but for the first month or so QB play wasn't that good.
September 1st, 2016 at 11:34 AM ^
I just don't think there's much you can take from "He looks better at this point."
Nothing compares to game action. Rudock had a lot more, even though he struggled a bit at the start for Michigan. And we don't know how Rudock would have progressed if he started game 1 at a cupcake instead of on the road at a very good Utah team.
September 1st, 2016 at 12:08 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 1:23 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 1:34 PM ^
My bad. I was typing it up during a work meeting and had one eye on the presentation and another on my phone. Thanks for the feedback.
September 1st, 2016 at 12:26 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 3:51 PM ^
+1 timely MGoName
September 1st, 2016 at 11:18 AM ^
September 1st, 2016 at 11:18 AM ^
We barely beat Minnesota and Indiana too. We may be very good, but there's still a lot to prove before I consider us a playoff team.
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September 1st, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 11:44 AM ^
OL "concerns" are kind of funny at this point.
If you look at our rivals, and the rest of the B1G, it can be argued that we have the best OL in the B1G. The only other team that's close is IU.
Yeah, LT might be concerning, if we were starting the year off against LSU or OU. But we essentially get 3 scrimmages to start the season. I just don't see us struggling on the OL like we saw last year.
http://www.espn.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/135416/big-ten-position-outlook-offensive-line-2
September 1st, 2016 at 12:31 PM ^
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September 1st, 2016 at 12:43 PM ^
Why do Michigan fans always bring up close wins as a caveat? You realize no team goes through an entire season blowing every team out?