How to Beat Ohio State

Submitted by trustBlue on December 2nd, 2019 at 10:47 AM

Justin Fields is right. The rivalry means more to OSU than it does to Michigan. I think we all know it's true.

But let's be clear: Its not about willingness to work hard. I am certain that our coaches and our players work as many hours and work every bit as hard as their guys. 

But their entire program, athletic department, and university is built to grind out every possible advantage for their football team. 

At every level, there is a willingness to do things that we simply are not willing to do, whether due to pride, ego, or the belief that there are things simply more important than football. 

Here's a list of thing we COULD do to beat Ohio State, but probably won't:

(1) Hire Urban Meyer. Yes, we all throw up in our collective mouths to even consider the thought. But would it work? Probably, yes.

Most of us are too proud to "admit defeat" by turning around and hiring Urban Meyer, but would OSU do it if the tables were turned? Almost certainly, the answer is yes.

This is not going to happen, but lets at least acknowledge that there are obvious things like this that we simply refuse to do out of pride, and that's inevitably a big part of the reason why OSU is better than us at football.

 

(2) Ignore academics

We work just as hard at chasing 4-5 star recruits, but OSU and most other elite programs are also willing to do things that we do not, like:

(a) Taking JUCOs

(b) Bringing in players who are not academically prepared for college and letting them skip class or take online classes.

(c) Aggresively pursuing non-grad transfers and challenging the NCAA to deny them immediate ineligiblity

(d) Keeping the kind of players that Michigan has dismissed for academic or behavior reasons (Brian Cole, Kareem Walker, etc.)

I'm not talking about paying players or cheating (we'll get to that), but OSU gets the best football players it can get period - not the best players who also happen to be good students.

Michigan's academic reputation is an advantage with some recruits, but the lack of flexibility definitely hurts us.

 

(3) Build the team around offense

We've been slow to adapt to the reality that the NCAA is now an offensive league.

This isn't the era when you can score 21 points against good teams and 40 against bad teams. OSU puts up 50+ on over half of the teams that it plays. It puts up 60-70+ points a couple times a year. Ryan Day is probably trying to figure out how to get that number to over 80.

Bringing in Gattis is starting to show some promise, but we are still behind in offensive mindset. The way we squander two minute drills at the end of a half, or the way we try to nurse small leads for 30 minutes, still feels like Harbaugh expects to win games 28-10 rather than 52-35.

OSU runs up the score even when they don't have to. This is smart because:

(a) The "eye test" matters when it comes to the playoffs. Beating a team by 45 looks better than cruising to an easy 10 point win.

(b) You get better at offense by running your offense, not by turtling up and running out the clock. Fields is confident in his ability to run to his left and make an off balance pass for a TD 30 yards down the field because he's had chances to take those kinds of shots all year.

(c) 5 star QBs and receivers want to come put up big yards and big points and pile up the kind of stats that win Heismans, not punt the ball for the entire second half.

People will complain about Don Brown and that's fine, but there is a much smaller gap between OSU's #1 ranked defense and our current defense, than their offensive capacity and ours.

 

(4) Fix Scheduling

We consistently shoot ourselves in the foot with scheduling.

We play 3 rivalry games a year. OSU plays one.

We waste off season practices prepping to play Air Force/Army or some other triple option team just so we can turn around and get run over by Wisconsin a week later.

We get stuck preparing for trap-game Indiana every year the week before the Game.

There was a recent thread about moving The Game to earlier in the season. That would probably better for us because, frankly, OSU has a better record of improving throughout the course of the season and seems to spend more time throughout the year preparing for The Game.

But again, we'll refuse to do something that might level the playing field even a little bit since that would mean "admitting defeat." Pride comes both before and after the fall I guess.

At the very least get rid of Army/Air Force/triple option teams, schedule a low P5 tomato can to replace ND, move Indiana to earlier in the year, and insert Maryland or Rutgers to the week before the Game.

 

(5) Sell out everything for The Game

Tressel built the entire identity of his program around beating Michigan. Not winning the Big Ten or a national championship - beating Michigan.

In the 2007 edition of The Game, Tressel broke every tendency of his Tressel-ball offense by adding spread elements to his offense (after our defense was exposed against the spread by App State and Oregon). MSU always empties their playbook against us with all manner of trick plays every year.

We always talk about Harbaugh "saving plays" for OSU, but I dont think we've ever shown up with anything remotely surprising (please dont count the "swinging gate" for a failed extra point play, or the ridiculous Pepcat stuff).

One thing I thought Hoke did well was always his teams always showed up against OSU even in the bad years. We always seemed to keep something in the tank for OSU no matter what, and I haven't see that under Harb(augh. We try to play them "straight up" every year and I'm not sure how you can win that way given the talent gap.

Get rid of everything that doesn't help you beat OSU. No more 3 "rivals" - OSU is the only rival that matters. Start practicing for The Game on first day of practice. Don't schedule service acadamies or anything else that takes away preparation for OSU. Dedicate both bye weeks to exclusively to OSU prep. Install an entire secret OSU playbook with plays exclusively dedicated to the Game. Install a secret triple option offense or some other quirk that catches them by surprise. You get the picture.

It may cost us a game or two to someone else, but the tradeoff is worth it to steal even an occassional win against OSU.

 

(6) Lie, cheat, steal.

Cheating happens in big time sports. The Houston Astros were recently caught stealing opposing teams' signals. Belicheck was fined $500,000 after he was caught filming opposing teams. Yes, this is probably a bridge too far, but I bet you Urban Meyer and Ryan Day think about this stuff when they lie awake at night.

I'm not going to get into paying players or PEDs. I have no insight into who get paid for what. Maybe we do it too, but if either team has an advantage here, its certainly not in our favor. Im also sure that every team including Michigan has players that dabble with PEDs, but I have seen enough players fail to gain weight (Drake Harris comes to mind) to feel confident that there's no instututional push toward PEDs that you might find at other progams.

There are also a bunch of things we could do that might not technically be illegal, but would probably be distateful. I'm thinking like sending someone undercover to give cash to an OSU player while secretly getting evidence on camera. Or hiring someone to follow players and try to catch them smoking weed, etc. Again we're not going to do any of this stuff, but you don't think this doesn't happen in the SEC all the time? You don't think that OSU has fans or boosters trying to do this stuff to our players?

 

(7) Being Realistic

As a said in the beginning, I don't expect that we'll do any of this stuff. We're not going to start paying players or taking JUCOs. We're not going to hire Urban Meyer.

However, I would like to see at a minimum:

(a) Go after transfers aggresively. I dont undersand why we would settle for having obvious holes in our roster while OSU can make a mockery of the NCAA's undergrad transfer rules. We should have had a transfer DT this year. We have a lot of holes to fill at CB going forward. There's absolutely no reason why we should not go after 3-4 transfers a year. Otherwise we're simply going to get beat by OSU on recruiting AND on transfers.

(b) Push for name and likeness rights for players. This is by far the best thing we can do reduce the advantage for teams who pay their players under the table.

(c) No more service academies. Have i mentioned this a few times already? Lets find some other way to support the troops, but no more triple option teams.

(d) Stop expecting to win games 28-10. Its not the 90s anymore. 55-35 is the new normal.

(e) Maybe run ONE thing that you save for OSU or that breaks tendency ffs.

Eph97

December 2nd, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^

Interesting that when there is actual proof of paying players in a big time way its UM that is in the news and not OSU. We all know about the greatest pay for play scandal in NCAA basketball history, but in the recent Adidas corruption trial a financial advisor stated under oath that he routinely paid football players at schools such as UM and PSU with the hopes of becoming their financial advisor upon turning pro. OSU was not in his list of schools:

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2019/04/23/michigan-football-college-basketball-corruption-trial/3553527002/

TIMMMAAY

December 2nd, 2019 at 12:49 PM ^

Lot of words there. You clearly don't get it. The University of Michigan is about more than success in football. The reason we wouldn't hire Urban Myer isn't out of some misplaced sense of "pride", it's because we have standards. Same goes for most of your other "points". 

We didn't play a good game, but plays were there to be made. We probably would still have lost, but it could have been much closer if a few plays had broken our way. And had our NFL receiver corps not suddenly came down with the drops. 

FFS, guys. Sack the fuck up. 

Buckeye9Strong

December 3rd, 2019 at 9:12 PM ^

Bullshit...and lies. Just because you say it, in now way makes it true. IF Urban would even entertain, Michigan would hire him in a heart beat. Despite your hate for a man who didn’t roll another man over in a domestic dispute...a man he had family ties to with Zach being Earl Bruce’s grandson ...he wrongly tried to keep it in house. Both Zach and his wife had issues no doubt...but Urban wasn’t coaching him or his staff how to abuse women? Firing him wouldn’t have hurt the program at all?? He didn’t because he was human and wrong...because he was rooted deep with a family. That had nothing to do with football. So stop with your arrogant elitist shit show. I’m sure there was a story of rape and cover up on the Michigan ranks with a kicker and offensive linemen...but we will just sweep that under the rug. We won’t talk about the second biggest money scandal in the NCAA with the Fake 5?? Need I say more because we both know there is more. Michigan has blood on their hands...that’s what happens when you're a cash cow for a university. But tattoo scandals and a crazy rouge assistant coach don’t even come close to what’s been going on in Ann Arbor. 

TomBradyBunch

December 2nd, 2019 at 12:54 PM ^

First off, there is zero chance Meyer would come here. Second, this dumb ass shit about letting kids skip class is a scary level of delusion. Do people really think their are vast conspiracies at universities allowing players to not go to class? Lol This is the type of shit that makes us a laughingstock. We have the biggest stadium and pay our average coach 7.5 million per year. We recruit the same kids as the big boys. We gave a kids mom a damn job. The idea we just don’t care enough to “cheat” is nonsense. We lose because our HC is a certified weirdo who can’t recruit with OSU. We lose because they are just a better program. 

BoHarb

December 2nd, 2019 at 1:20 PM ^

Great post. If OSU didnt cheat ALL the time, and their players had to be biology majors minimum like our proud Michigan Men instead of taking fake online courses (someone should get CNN on this?), maybe that would level the playing field. 

Buckeye9Strong

December 3rd, 2019 at 9:14 PM ^

Are they similar to the online classes Michigan students and football players take...the same ones Iowa started doing in 2017 then the whole conference started following suite. There is posted information about online course idiot. It’s an actual thing in 2019...wtf

Zumbo

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:04 PM ^

I just can't believe the arrogance here......actually thinking that Urban would go coach at a school he won't even say the name of unless it's in a sentence that ends in 7-0.

EZMIKEP

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:25 PM ^

I’ll bite, mainly because I can tell you care or you wouldn’t have taken that much time. 
The board tends to find ways to get pissy at any post that they don’t find up to their standards but imo this is exactly why UM still makes money. 
The fanbase, and it’s a passionate one even if it’s also miserable.

 

I will say that IMO while people like Brian say there is no hope that a big caveat isn’t really being discussed, money and prestige. We are on the precipice of having neither. Can’t be the leaders and the best if you don’t win big games and if you don’t have the a winning record against OSU and continue to be second place.. or less the money WILL dry up and so will all that passion.

I waited years to get season tickets. I have 8 great seats. 5 years now. PSDs are due in less that 60 days.... But I’m not renewing. You can’t get me to invest into a product that doesn’t have anything to sell. 
right now what does Michigan have to sell me? 
If I wanna go to a game I can get tickets at Face or just below to any rivalry game, and good seats. Anything else is just throwing money away. 
I can take my entire family to Rutgers for $140-60ish dollars. Decent seats. Indiana too. And so on and so forth. I’ll still watch but the last 13 years since Bo died has beat it out of me. 
 

So when the stadium isn’t filling up, and the thing that keeps this entire university rolling is dead then what? Football is the cash cow. We can’t and won’t be able to play the moral high ground then and by the time anyone has truly realized this OSU will have the winning record in the series and we will be more dead than Notre Dame.

 

It breaks my heart but it is what it is. Michigan football is on life support. 
Our rival now is MSU. Just MSU. You don’t win 2 games outta 19 and still call it a rivalry. I understand that some things are cyclical but this is not that. 

 

Do not get me wrong. I still support Harbaugh and he needs more time to at least have a chance to get us out of this tailspin but the advantages are not on his side and neither is time.

I think years from now we will look back on that 2016 game and the final nail in the coffin. Had we won that game... it would have helped change so much IMO. Especially in recruiting because perception is reality for fans and definitely kids who only see what’s right in front of them. 
 

But I’m done sacrificing my finances to buy tickets and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one and in the years that follow they’ll be many more to do the same and trim the fat outta their yearly costs.

Durham Blue

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:28 PM ^

We have a defensive line problem.  A glaring one at that.  The OSU O line dominated our smaller D line and they ran seemingly at will.  Not a recipe for success based on just that alone.  Additionally, Don Brown's defense lives on pressuring the QB and we did very little of that against a very dangerous offense.  Our secondary is average and we paid the price multiple times with long passes, many going for TD's.  OSU once again exposed our weaknesses on defense and took full advantage.

We had very good D lines in 2016 and 2017 and that was closest we've come to beating OSU.  If you ask me, we need to amp up our D line recruiting and development.  We also need to hang onto the guys that we recruited and developed!

The Game is won in the trenches.  Always has been, always will be.  Until we match the quality of their players in the trenches, we'll have to count on luck and OSU mistakes to win.

Pepper Brooks

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:28 PM ^

TL;DR

Currently, OSU has better talent. In order to beat them, UM needs to:

  • Come to The Game MOTIVATED AF!
  • Have EVERYONE play to their FULL potential
  • Win the turnover battle, and commit NO turnovers
  • Win Special Teams
  • Not make any dumb mistakes, like ill-timed penalties or stupid play calling
  • Never stop, never give up

Class of 1817

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:29 PM ^

I got a GREAT IDEA.

Let's eliminate academic standards for athletes, break all NCAA guidelines to risk any number of arbitrary punishments, and otherwise swallow any sort of institutional integrity JUST TO BEAT A SINGLE FOOTBALL TEAM THAT IS AT THE TOP OF THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PYRAMID.

GENIUS.

STFU and/or GTFO

Buckeye9Strong

December 3rd, 2019 at 9:22 PM ^

The academic standard don’t need lowered...they are targeting the same kids everyone else is. Who told you they weren’t?? You academic standards for athletes is a myth now...it’s not the 1950’s my guy. Look at the Fake 5...what are you going on about? 

Do you actually believe every one of these players meets the standard that you would have to meet?? You’re out of your ever loving mind and living in the past. 

What do you think is going on at Schembechler Hall...you actually think they are getting the same treatment and living the same experience other kids are who are there for football...my goodness what antiquated thinking 

EJG

December 2nd, 2019 at 8:22 PM ^

Or don't:

1. Turn the ball over.

2. Commit bad penalties.

3. Drop passes.

4. Pick the wrong holes.

5. Let receivers get deeper than coverage.

6. Get pushed around.

Jamezz23

December 2nd, 2019 at 8:47 PM ^

Beating Ohio is not some mystical happening. You have to win in the trenches, simple as that.  The closest we’ve got to that was 2016, which we should have won, but Chris Wormley, Bryan Mone/Maurice Hurst, Ryan Glasgow, Taco Charlton, Chase Winovich, Rashan Gary controlled that game. God that defensive line was stacked...

 

If you pair that with the Gattis offense like we had in the first half of this years game and that’s a winner winner

ChuckWood

December 3rd, 2019 at 1:33 AM ^

First post in a long time.  I agree with almost everything you said except the Urban hire and securing evidence of a rival team/player breaking the rules.  The Urban hire will never and should never happen.  On the second item, the beauty of the SEC is they all cheat but nobody rats!  The only time an SEC school gets in trouble for anything is if they are blatantly obvious about crossing lines. IE Ole Miss a few years back.

 

The truth is, until Michigan wants to be competitive, they won’t be competitive.  The school, the coaches, the fan base won’t agree to do what it takes to win in 2019.  Everyone wants to bitch and complain but nobody wants to accept a reality of what it takes these days.