Fuck the NCAA
Anyone who watched that abomination of a ref performance will know exactly what I'm talking about.
Its comical honestly. Stack it up there with the block is clean and JT was short.
You are going to laugh when you see where the ump went to school. You really can’t make this shit up.
Guys we gave up all 11 runs wth 2 outs. Umps were bad, pitching was worse.
well a lot can happen with two outs when the officials don't call the third.
They gave up 4 runs after 3 outs in the 8th
Fucking Bullshit. And we get to keep eating it again.
This shit...is delicious
Little bits...
Yep. They won't give us the call because we don't put up a stink. Time for the AD to go ape shit on this corrupt bull shit. If that screw job happened to any other school you know you'd hear something from their AD.
The worst part of Warde Manuel's tenure has been his severe lack of support during moments like this. When something like Juwan's slap occured, he was quick to issue a statement and institute a punishment, but when Harbaugh was jobbed out in Columbus in 2016, Warde actually told Jim to cool it rather than taking umbrage with the conference and the refs.
Imagine if this happened to Alabama or Ohio State. Those AD's would chew out the refs/NCAA so fast. Hell, Saban got the NCAA to pass legislation in a blink the second somebody threatened his recruiting process with satelite camps.
Thanks for proving my point with facts. I’m too irate to rationally think right now. Ha ha
I guess that when you lose, you look for the biggest scapegoat you can. Me, I'd start by blaming the umpires. I thought we played out of our minds the last week and a half, and came within inches today. I'm proud of 'em. To be able to say you got hose or you mighta gone still further, that's not the worst thing that could happen. And--yeah--we did get hosed. Every fan base, I'm sure you must know, has their pet list of memorable hosings.
Why is it always us? I know every alum / fan of every school thinks it is always them. But — it honestly is always us I feel.
Ok, that was awesome. :-)
Because our AD refuses to raise a stink in favor of the program.
Gene Smith at Ohio State wouldn't let this pass.
I don't see him as a paragon of righteous dignity or probity, though--do you? Where are we going with this?
Maybe a little support from the AD of one of the biggest draws and money-makers in all of college sports could help things along? At some point it has to be said that officiating affects games. This is clearly a game that was affected by officiating - doesn't mean that UM would have won. But THE GAME WAS AFFECTED BY A HORRIBLY BAD CALL THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REVERSED!
It's okay to admit that... And it's okay for the AD to say that publicly.
Billy Martin,Sparky,Leyland,Earl Weaver would have all been tossed in that garbage of an 8th.
I was literally just sitting here thinking: when was the last time Michigan got a call that we absolutely didn't deserve that made the difference in a really, really big game.
I legit cannot think of one. And I've been a fan of this great university for over 30 years.
I'm sure there is one but when have we had a JT was short moment, or Burke block or the call today, go our way?
In essence, I agree with you, but ... I was awfully happy the refs didn't let Ryan Leaf take one more snap from scrimmage, and I bet WSU alums would be happy to tell us how unfair that was to them.
Forgetting bad calls for just a moment ... I remember seeing a list a few years ago of the ten most painful losses in college football history, and -- if I remember correctly -- no other school was on it twice. Michigan was on it three times.
Being a Michigan fan is a unique kind of torture, no doubt about it.
As a corollary to that, our basketball team is undefeated in national semi-finals. We're 7-0 in semis. That's insane. And yet ... we're 1-6 in championship games. One and six!
In both sports, we win so much more than most teams that we're thought of as part of the "consistent winners" class of schools, like Duke, Alabama, Ohio State, etc. So we never get the kind of national attention and sympathy the Cubs did in their many decades of incompetence. But you point out our record to people, and they're shocked. One (shared) national championship in football since 1947.
Truth is, we win enough to make our losses as painful and excruciating as possible.
The Rose Bowl is the first one that comes to mind - altho if he'd gotten that snap we'd be pissed about the missed OPI so I do feel like that one is a bit even. The Tate Forcier-Indiana game had a crazy last INT. The UTL game didn't have bad officiating but just terrible dumb luck. I feel like NW and Indian in the Hoke years probably felt screwed and probably were? There was the missed defensive false start in the Army game in 2019.
It happens. It's usually lesser moments. I'd trade literally all of those except the Rose Bowl one for like one inch against OSU in 2016. I think ours happen in high profile moments. The rational part of me figures it probably evens out. The part of me that watched that game just can't believe how obviously wrong those umps got it.
I'm going to say this and duck, but ... I don't think the refs blew that call against OSU in 2016. I think it was insanely close, and essentially a pick-em. Maybe it could have gone one inch or another, but I didn't think the spot was patently false.
Trust me, I wanted it to be different. It still hurts. (I also think we outplayed them for the entire game except for 5 minutes in the third quarter (if I remember right)). But ... I don't think if we had gotten that call all the OSU fans would somehow have agreed that it appropriately went in our favor. Refs did the best they could on that one. It was a reasonable spot, and it went against us by an inch.
I don't think they screwed up. I think it goes in the category of "goddamn it hurts to be a Michigan fan."
Unlike today, where I swear, they just flat out missed two major calls.
You're not wrong - that one call wasn't as obviously wrong as both the tag at second and the strike 3.
There were a number of fifty/50 calls in that OSU game, but they were all kinda defensible. Still, as much as I am absolutely a follower and fan of M baseball, I care more about the football game, so it kinda FEELS equivalent, if that makes sense? As I write it, I realize it doesn't. but sports are emotion, not rationality, dammit.
Yes, that spot was really too close to call. However, there were about 50 atrocious calls before that in that game.
Including at least 3 uncalled holds and a block in the back on the Samuel carry on 3rd and long right before the JT Was Short 4th down.
On the immediately previous play in the 2016 OSU game, the officials somehow missed multiple instances of OSU players holding and blocking UM players in the back. (They also missed OSU committing PI and hitting after the play, earlier in the game.) It was probably the worst-ref'd football game I've seen.
(They also missed OSU committing PI and hitting after the play, earlier in the game.)
Yeah, this is the one that immediately comes to mind.
He's only the intended receiver. You can't expect the refs to watch everyone /s/
Too soon!
Ever.
I was there. My seats were good, but not *that* good. And from my pretty far away seat, you could CLEARLY see a massive OPI. Everyone in the stadium saw it. I have zero guilt whatsoever about the clock. It was like a two handed push, iirc. They had no business being at midfield. None.
Good callout.
Anthony Thomas fumble is the first thing that pops into my head.
The 2013 Outback Bowl against South Carolina comes to mind. The fake punt was clearly short. Instant karma right after though with Clowney absolutely destroying Smith.
The difference being that game was entirely inconsequential. In big games, ones that matter to us, they almost always seem to go against us.
That was spurrier shooting his mouth off. The ref was going to change his mind. Spurrier says something and the ref gives the first down basically telling him to fuck off.
you're right though..
Brandon Gibbons vs. Northwestern. We weren’t set.
Virginia tech
This.
This is the right answer
I dunno how many - "That is a penalty from Mars" - other teams have but I feel like Michigan leads in that category. When the color guy is in fucking disbelief and bewilderment it says something.
Fake handoff to Hidgon. Hidgon rag-dolled to the ground with his arms in a - I have the ball position - for all of .5 seconds. Patterson runs for 20+ to pick up 1st. Hidgon called for holding. Drive killed.
Mike Landry
MSU's vote
Charles White
"hold against USC"
Desmond's trip
Spartan Bob
on and on and on
If you'd written "umpire" instead of "ref," I'd know what you're talking about.
Sorry, bad time to troll, I know. It's the baseball snob inside me; he's a bastard. I agree that the universe is out to get us.
Thank you for this. I was about to post something similar, to the effect of, "since when are baseball officials called refs instead of umps?"
LOL Michigan fans really are the worst, aren't we?
Complete and utter screwjob by incompetent asshole umpires.
Why even have replay if you can't get it right? If you blow calls on replay you shouldn't be an official. That was OBVIOUS.
The home plate umpire is a blind asshole too.
Yes, it's an NCAA CONSPIRACY against Michigan. Get a life.