THE END OF OT SEASON IS AT MIDNIGHT: Your Guide To The Transition

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on August 26th, 2022 at 9:00 PM

The OT Season officially comes to an end at midnight on this coming Saturday, the 27th of August

What does that mean for you? Veterans will know the answer, but for newer folks or infrequent visitors, here is your yearly reminder.

Now, when we say “end of OT season”, it is more a “significant narrowing of scope” – in other words, not every single OT thread will be removed outright. What you must do, if you plan on posting such a thread, is provide a pretty damn good explanation of why it should stay (or the reason may be self-evident) – and yes, frivolous ones will be removed as always. As usual, there are usually narrow exceptions made for major breaking news of regional or national importance and a few other things. I realize some people would prefer a hard stop, but this is a community and we’ll consider things that might be of note to the community, even during the “non-OT” months. Such threads should be an EXCEPTION, and the onus is on the blogger to justify it.

A few things of note (non-comprehensive, of course – we reserve the right to throw other stuff out there too):

  1. The Snowflake Rule will apply after games, but we will weigh threads individually and those which provide, for example, detailed analysis of a single series or play or video analysis will probably stay. Those threads which are mere hot takes that could easily fit into a snowflake thread will likely go. I understand why the Snowflake threads are not popular in many segments of the MGoPopulation, but there has to be a way to mitigate hot takes and make sure they don’t bury more worthwhile content. The whole point is to make sure the better user-generated content remains – we have some excellent football minds on the board and I really don’t want their contributions to be buried by your two paragraphs which amount to “that was awesome” or “that sucked” or what-have-you.
     
  2. Having seen #1, please take care in general to consider carefully what you want to say if you’re going to create a thread. Search the threads for similar threads – that’s typically what I use as a measuring stick for “redundant”. As for breaking news, make sure that you check the publish dates on articles – you can almost be assured that anything over an hour old has made it to the board barring a huge oversight (and sometimes, something does get overlooked). Normal rules on sourcing apply as well, so for example, no Bleacher Report, no Chatsports, and don’t post a whole Freep article out of spite – post a quote, link it, and give people the opportunity to avoid reading it. Read the Mod Sticky for further restrictions.
     
  3. DO NOT attack players or fellow MGoBloggers personally. Ad hominems are essentially your ticket to Bolivia or worse depending on the severity of the statement. I know people get emotional after games, but do try to run your initial reaction by your frontal cortex first for proper review. Criticizing play and strategy is fine, but basically bringing someone’s mom into it, if you will, is your way of telling the mods you no longer wish to be here.
     
  4. Report potential infractions or questionable posts in the Mod Sticky with a link to the comment or thread. We will review them as soon as possible and dole out point deductions and so forth accordingly. If it is raining in La Paz, we will provide appropriate gear assuming we did not spend the money on beer first. If there is a delay in getting to an issue, remember that the mods have lives too, but if it is something that really should go, say, right now, tweet me at @LorneEC3 and I’ll address it right then or make a note to do it ASAP. Yes, I can’t stand the threads with “IBD” or “Moms please delete” in 40 different forms and posts either, so let’s try to mitigate that, eh?
     
  5. Sunday (also Thursday and Monday) NFL threads will be allowed as usual. Pro sports events which are significant are fine as well (World Series, NBA or NHL coverage, etc…) – just not every bit of news like we get during the draft and free agency periods sometimes. I know people gripe about the amount of Lions coverage during the NFL season, but try to remember that a sizeable number of the active users on this site also live in Michigan. Do feel free to throw in some coverage of your own teams, if you so choose, but be selective due to OT restrictions.
     
  6. Threads covering other college games should typically be OK, but do try to keep the tradition of “Saturday Noon Games Thread”, for example, on the weekends (and on Thursdays and Fridays when sometimes there is a significant slate too). The tradition of MACtion is absolutely OK. If something noteworthy is happening in a particular game, a separate thread should be fine but detail the reason for breaking out of the open thread coverage.

LSAClassOf2000

August 22nd, 2022 at 7:20 PM ^

ADDENDUM - 

The normal cadence for Snowflake threads will be:

- Offense

- Defense

- Special Teams

- Coaching Comments

Additional ones will be added if there is something significant, but not fully significant. Talk to me or another mod first. 

bluebyyou

August 23rd, 2022 at 8:13 AM ^

Considering the small size of the Message Board on the front page of the blog, it seems like the snowflake threads are occupying space long after most posters have added content.  Any thoughts about "unlocking' their position on the Board early Sunday morning as there is considerable other content being posted that quickly leaves the front page.

LSAClassOf2000

August 23rd, 2022 at 8:25 AM ^

Actually, yes, I have thought about this.

There has not been a standardized method for that, and we are going to change it this season. I thought perhaps the best way was to go by wins / losses to start, just using an obvious set of subcategories. 

First attempt at this will be:

Snowflake threads after wins will start drifting away twelve hours after the end of the game.

Snowflake threads after losses will begin to drift off the board eighteen hours after the end of the game.

What it means is that I am actually going to informally (i.e., eyeball, so really informal) track volume inasmuch as I can, and we will adjust these windows if needed, but I thought this was a fair place to start and it should give most people sufficient time to process results. 

A2Photonut

August 23rd, 2022 at 9:44 AM ^

Just curious if you guys have ever thought of expanding the amount of posts shown on the front page? Right now it's at 7 and a moderately busy news day means a post may only stay on the front page for half a day or less. 10 or even 15 would allow posts to have a longer lifespan. Having said this, I have absolutely no idea what would be involved in doing something like that, so if its unfeasible or just aesthetically unpleasing I've got no problem with that.

stephenrjking

August 23rd, 2022 at 3:02 PM ^

I actually think that the longer period of time is good. At least until Sunday afternoon. The emphasis on the snowflake threads keeps the conversation active there.

A good middle ground might be a new “Sunday snowflakes” thread to absorb some of the extra talk that we still want to have after the initial emotions of Saturday have cooled down. No need for four of those; most of the conversation would focus on one or two specific issues by then  

What I think is more needed is a more decisive system of nuking extra threads after games. There are still too many. 

bluebyyou

August 24th, 2022 at 5:41 AM ^

I find some of those "extra" threads to be interesting, particularly when Michigan blows out a team it is expected to beat by a large margin.  The way this board works, where posting activity is secondary to the date a new thread is posted causes threads to quickly disappear from the front page.  

There is very little said in the snowflake threads that isn't there within the first few hours after the thread is put on the board.

Blue Vet

August 22nd, 2022 at 9:11 PM ^

don't! I'm not prepared, I'm bummed. 

Clicking on "THE END OF OT SEASON APPROACHES: Your Guide To The Transition," I assumed it would provide techniques and tips to help me transition through the next two weeks.

But, NOOOO. There's nothing about helping make the time till kickoff come quicker. 

How'm I gonna get through the next 12 days?! I'm jonesin' here.

NeverPunt

August 22nd, 2022 at 8:26 PM ^

How the hell is already season preview and end of OT season already? This off-season flew by. Is this what it’s like when your team isn’t bludgeoned by their biggest rival at the end of the season every year? There was football to look forward to after OSU? And an off season filled with good memories of last year and exciting speculation about the upcoming team’s season? The offensive preview podcast today was like…well…not like it usually is. Optimism and embarrassments of riches all around? Biggest concerns being getting all of our talented backups enough touches!? This doesn’t feel like a Michigan football offseason of telling Lucy no and wondering why this will be the year but silently admitting it probably won’t. But whatever it is sign me the hell up for more!  Lets kick Ryan Day in the teeth this year and go back to the CFP with a fully weaponized offense and see what we can do!!! Goddamn it I can’t wait for the season to start now. 
 

ok…whew got that out. So. Uh. How are you guys?

LSAClassOf2000

August 23rd, 2022 at 7:33 AM ^

Well, I did post an early warning shot, as it were, but this is the full announcement as per tradition.

I also want this is get as much exposure as possible before some people utterly ignore it during the season itself. At least then they can't say that a lack of understanding was the problem.

It's like when a planning commission wants you to be pleasantly surprised, so per the rules, the plans for a development are posted in the basement of a municipal building. 

Booted Blue in PA

August 23rd, 2022 at 7:57 AM ^

remember when the Ultimate Fighting Championship was a tournament and the only rules were no eye gouging and no biting???   Yeah, those were the days..... 

 

Now.... on to football! 

GO BLUE

LSAClassOf2000

August 23rd, 2022 at 8:37 AM ^

You can, if you have the access, sticky things to the top of the board by posting them from the future (or changing the publish date on the thread). To quote Dr. McCoy, "Slingshot around the Sun, pick up enough speed, you're in time warp. If you don't, you're fried."

It's actually the easiest way to do something like that in this interface, I have found. 

rob f

August 23rd, 2022 at 12:51 PM ^

Good to know.

I tried to sticky a thread I posted yesterday as a reminder of the deadline to buy the HTTV print edition/shirt package.  But because it didn't sticky to the top of the board like I wanted, it slid off the list within about 5 or 6 hours.

 

ps: I remembered to unsticky it from the top of the full MGoBoard index about a half hour ago.

goblu330

August 23rd, 2022 at 10:41 AM ^

I haven't been posting for very long, but already from last basketball season I am adhering to a "don't post anything until at least an hour after any loss" rule.  

FlexUM

August 23rd, 2022 at 11:00 AM ^

I do have a question...to limit the endless redundant new threads created have you all thought of allowing threads to "bump" to the top when there is a new post? I mean so quickly you'd have the popular threads continue to climb to the top and the useless stuff or just things people are not interested in fall off. 

This is actually the only forum I've ever seen without that feature and seems like that would take care of a ton of challenges with new posts pretty quickly. 

I know a few others have brought it up as well and curious on your thoughts?

Meant with love and respect. 

FlexUM

August 23rd, 2022 at 11:40 AM ^

I don't think they do with each new post though they just stick them up there. Most forums though any new post will bump to the top. It's also why so many people here don't search for topics because if it's pushed down the list there won't be any new conversation it just gets buried, even if a relevant topic. 

I love this place, been here for years so truly not trying to be negative but it's the most basic forum feature that cleans up a lot of nonsense and keeps relevant topics to the top and helps eliminate unnecessary new threads. 

goblu330

August 23rd, 2022 at 11:47 AM ^

Yeah, I guess you are right.  There are some threads that I wish would remain "active" for longer in terms of discussion.  At the same time, things don't always remain civil all the time on here and sometimes the more a thread gets bumped to the top the more chance there is that it will go wildly off the rails.

The Oracle 2

August 23rd, 2022 at 11:55 AM ^

“…yes, frivolous ones will be removed as always.” I hate to be the one to tell you, but just about every discussion here is frivolous. People love following sports because they’re a frivolous and entertaining distraction from everyday life.

LSAClassOf2000

August 23rd, 2022 at 3:12 PM ^

"Good evening. Tonight 'Spectrum' looks at one of the major problems in the world today - the whole vexed question of what is going on. Is there still time to confront it, let alone solve it, or is it too late? What are the figures, what are the facts, what do people mean when they talk about things?" - this thread, in the future

fallow88

August 25th, 2022 at 4:21 PM ^

"just about every discussion here is frivolous"

No. Just no. 

"OT: please get help with addiction if you need it" is an actual sticky. See it up there? 

Player's injuries, both "friends and foes", get entire posts dedicated to them. Those posts not only discuss the injury, they have tons of mgobloggers wishing the subject well.

There are numerous instances of mgobloggers commemorating their loved ones (both private and public figures) and commiserating with each other. There are a huge amount of  "Advice" posts, many regarding very serious matters. There are numerous current event posts which have discussions about events that aren't even slightly "frivolous." 

uminks

August 24th, 2022 at 3:14 AM ^

May we can have a break on the OT: RIP "somebody". It seem like every day this summer  there was a lot of OT: RIP thread. These are sad and depressing! Stop dying during football season people.

True Blue Grit

August 26th, 2022 at 4:23 PM ^

The 2nd worst part of losing football games is reading the snowflakes threads afterwards.  For every rational take, there are about 4 or 5 "what were the coaches thinking?" posts laced with swearwords.  I'd much rather read post-game happy threads filled with unicorns and sunshine.