Ed Warinner shares new recruiting graphic.

Submitted by BoFlex on

Ed Warinner just posted a new recruiting graphic on his Facebook account featuring 5 former Buckeyes. This comes just couple days after former FSU DB Jalen Ramsey publicly called out Texas A&M/Tim Brewster for using his image to recruit at a different school. I figured people might be interested to comment on this since Jalen Ramsey’s graphic was discussed on this board.

Overall, the move makes sense since Ed Warinner was their actual position coach, but from an optics standpoint I really wished they had chosen to feature some players from Warinner’s other coaching stops. Also, what would be the response if those players also asked Ed Warinner to stop using their name to recruit for their alma mater’s rival like Jalen Ramsey?

CalifExile

March 1st, 2018 at 12:04 PM ^

He's probably serious. After seeing that thread I tried to find out who CA had picked and ultimately decided it must be wrong info since there was no followup. That's a thread that should have been corrected and locked except for allowing people to neg the OP.

BoFlex

March 1st, 2018 at 10:03 AM ^

I was just thinking that including all the accomplishments on the side would be sufficient without including players’ name. Or if they wanted to include some successful players, they could have made it more balanced by featuring players from Warinner’s other P5 coaching stops: Kansas, and Notre Dame. I honestly don’t know which players from those schools Warinner personally coaches, but it would show that he has been consistently successful over the course of his whole career vs. just one stop. Anyways, just an interesting recent debate about players’s images/name being used without their permission for promotional purposes. I’m a little surprised that schools aren’t legally required to obtain written permission first, but I’m not a JD, so who knows...

BoFlex

March 1st, 2018 at 11:23 AM ^

Maybe this is apples to oranges, but... I was a student recruiter for my undergraduate college for 3 years (partly because there was a scholarship tied to the position), but every year they would have renew/re-sign a blanket release statement that they could use our name and images on any recruiting material. This included my picture being used in college brochures, my biography being printed in their website, and quotes I gave about the school. All to convince prospective high schoolers to apply. So it makes sense to me that the same would be required for former players or alumni.

JFW

March 1st, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^

let's not count chickens yet. He might be able to do miracles. He might not. I'd settle for 'competence' at this point. Keep the QB's upright for the most part and don't wreck running plays. That's a huge impreovement right there. If he can get us to road grading pass rush destroying sardaukar (yes I'm a geek) by year 2 I'll be ecstatic. 

SD Larry

March 1st, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^

coaching career.  Coach Warinner is an accomplished coach and if he should put his best foot forward wehn recruiting for Michigan.  Coach Ed is at a better place now and we are glad he is here.

M_Born M_Believer

March 1st, 2018 at 10:31 AM ^

And he only put down his most recent references. Nothing more.... As with actual resume, any reference you put down should be ok with this as the individual 'ok'd' the endorsement. In Ramsey's case the coach over stepped his boundary with his claim.

S and G Buckeye

March 1st, 2018 at 10:48 AM ^

Reid was a TE recruited out of Grosse Point, MI. He played 3 years at OSU as a TE. In his senior year, Reid was switched to tackle and gained about 20-30 lbs. for his new position. He was drafted to the NFL after that great season in his first year at tackle. Warinner does deserve credit for helping Reid and getting him into a position for success. The "Reid Fragel Award" is given to the player that comes out of nowhere and shines for the team. Warriner was one of my favorite coaches.

M-Dog

March 1st, 2018 at 11:13 AM ^

He was promoted to OC at OSU where he did not do very well. 

He did not want to get demoted back to OL position coach, so he and OSU parted ways.

So yes, here he is at Michigan with the same job he did not want at OSU.  But it gives him a fresh start.  He may decide that his niche is OL and stay there, or he may look for another shot at an OC.

In the meantime, it all works out to our advantage. 

We got a guy that was killing it at OSU whom OSU would never have fired from OL position coach.

 

Scarlatina

March 1st, 2018 at 11:13 AM ^

It was simply Warinner being promoted above his abilities to a lead OC, but to be fair it was something Warinner made no secret of wanting as well Warinner originally left Notre Dame for Ohio State because he was offended that Brian Kelly decided to promote Chuck Martin to OC instead of Warinner. When Tom Herman left for Houston, Warinner was the natural choice to be the next OC, and he even convinced Urban to hire on Tim Beck. Then in 2015 it became painfully obvious that both OC Warinner and co-OC Beck we’re out of their depths when they struggled offensively all season with a stacked/talented roster. In 2016, Urban even took away Warinner’s OL coaching duties in the hopes that the latter could focus more on being the OC. Eventually it was clear that neither Warinner or Beck could coordinate at the level expected and both were released after 2016. It would have been fantastic if Warinner could have gone back to being just an OL coach, but it is hard to demote someone after promoting them (see: Drevno). Ohio State fans have mostly been happy with Greg Studwara who replaced Warinner as an OL coach in 2016, but Warinner definitely shines bright those first 4 seasons.

Mr. Owl

March 1st, 2018 at 11:16 AM ^

I still wish he had not named names.  It just seems like printing the names of buckeyes in recruiting to Michigan shouldn't be necessary.  Use numbers on the poster, then name names in conversation.

It wouldn't seem right if RichRod took a job in Columbus & started recruiting using Denard as an example of why kids should go to THAT "school."

RoZ06

March 1st, 2018 at 12:12 PM ^

Not a big surprise, but Warinner’s FB page includes the title “Assistant Coach / Run Game Coordinator”. Guessing this means JM is the de facto OC / WR coach, and Pep retains the Pasing Game Coordinator title.

JVANVEEL

March 1st, 2018 at 12:41 PM ^

Not thread worthy and I can't start new threads anyways as I have very few points.

What is the deal with Kolin Demens? I've heard nothing after he de-committed from UCLA. If a spot opened would he be a take for Michigan at this time? Or is he looking to go in another direction, possibly junior college? I know Pitt was a possibility. Just curious as he is semi-highly regarded legacy kid.

Baughsome

March 1st, 2018 at 1:51 PM ^

But this is like a waitress that worked a party for Puff Daddy and served lobster and champagne all night turning around and waitressing a party for the American Legion and thinking everything will taste fucking amazing because Puff had lobster and champagne to serve at her last job. RECRUIT!! Get DEPTH!!