Does Borges Recruit?
I've read a lot about the Borges "Gulf-Coast Offense" and the 1st Rd QBs that he has coached. But what I'm curious about is whether he is an active recruiter or just an Xs/Os guy.
Last year, our Coordinators seem to have different recruiting personas. Magee was more of a recruiter it seemed, while less so with Robinson. Depending on how active Borges is on the trail might also influence our decision making on the defensive side.
Any articles or news on Borges recruiting would be helpful.
Thanks.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:30 PM ^
According to rivals, yes he does. In 2007 he got for Auburn a 4* QB and a 4* LB.
January 15th, 2011 at 6:17 PM ^
Al Borges is solid as a rock.
January 15th, 2011 at 10:18 PM ^
January 15th, 2011 at 3:34 PM ^
Magee was more of a recruiter it seemed, while less so with Robinson.
Hmmm. If Robinson wasn't a good recruiter, and it speaks for itself that he wasn't a good Xs/Os guy, then what the heck was he? And why did we keep him only to doom poor RichRod.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:35 PM ^
not really the focus on this post. i don't mean to rehash the Greg Robinson era.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:36 PM ^
It takes up a lot of the week trying to find the perfect teddy bear to serve as motivation.
January 15th, 2011 at 4:24 PM ^
i thought it was a stuffed beaver.
January 15th, 2011 at 5:19 PM ^
That's what she said?
January 15th, 2011 at 6:48 PM ^
Anyone still wondering what that was about?
January 15th, 2011 at 7:16 PM ^
Why yes I am still wondering what the sam hell that was about!
January 15th, 2011 at 3:49 PM ^
Don't blame anyone for RichRod's downfall but RichRod. He chose Gerg and Schaeffer. And it looks like Schaeffer wasn't too bad from his body of work at Syracuse.
January 15th, 2011 at 4:22 PM ^
Shafer has a lot fewer letters and is spelled correctly.
January 15th, 2011 at 8:50 PM ^
Thanks. I'll rest a lot easier tonight now that I know the correct spelling of a former Defensive Coordinator from two seasons ago. Next time I'll be sure to google that before I post.
January 16th, 2011 at 12:53 AM ^
Be the best you can be.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^
Build a Bear is a powerful place for 17 year olds?!?!?
January 15th, 2011 at 6:44 PM ^
But build a bear (at least the one in Ann Arbor) has some dope Michigan related stuff...you know, if you have, kids or something.
January 15th, 2011 at 4:04 PM ^
I don't think Greg Robinson recruited at all did he?
January 15th, 2011 at 5:38 PM ^
I don't know if he did recruit at all. but he was not known for his recruiting prowess.
January 15th, 2011 at 4:24 PM ^
And why did we keep him only to doom poor RichRod.
You know that the head coach hires his own assistants, right? (And Scott Shafer might disagree with the notion that our defensive shortcomings were solely due to the coordinators).
January 15th, 2011 at 4:26 PM ^
He is a master of the 4-3 defense.. it was RRs stubbornness that forced him to run a 3-3-5 (bc thats the only defense that his assistants have ever coached) RR figured it was easier to have one guy adapt then the whole staff
January 15th, 2011 at 9:10 PM ^
He was kept on because everyone on the board believed in the impotence of coaching continuity.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:36 PM ^
I thought he just played piano and told jokes in his spare time.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:43 PM ^
He is not the best recruiter. They said he was a good OC, just not that great of a recruiter....so I hope that is not true if he does recruit here. If it is true, find another recruiter.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:48 PM ^
Would be a great hire for the DBs. Haven't heard his name floated around much. I know Hoke is bringing his DL and LB coach. That means we have to fill DC and DBs coach, unless some coach does both.
January 15th, 2011 at 6:37 PM ^
Still hoping for Loeffler, as well..and Soup!
January 15th, 2011 at 3:57 PM ^
His original (and most recent) connections are to California. Even if he wasn't a great recruiter at Auburn, and given Michigan's historical ability to attract great players from California, perhaps we can't really compare his recruiting abilities at Auburn with his potential recruiting abilities at Michigan.
January 15th, 2011 at 4:07 PM ^
I'm sure Fred Jackson will be doing more recruiting than Borges will. Plus, Hoke brought over his RB coach/recuiting coordinator. I'm sure he will also be taking a bulk of it.
January 15th, 2011 at 6:39 PM ^
Can he coach LB's?
January 15th, 2011 at 3:45 PM ^
I've read that Borges does recruit, but isn't considered an "ace recruiter".
January 15th, 2011 at 3:56 PM ^
Part of me would love an "ace recruiter" for an OC, but as the last three years brought us a dearth of talent on offense - sort of - I would almost rather see what the guy can do with the existing talent and fill the holes next year. Maybe this is just me....
Borges numbers are not impressive, yet I can't look away for some reason.....
January 15th, 2011 at 4:20 PM ^
Depending on what the grand plans are for the offense, they've gotta get at least a few of their own type of guys in this class. I wouldn't be surprised to see a power RB and a pro style QB before NSD.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:48 PM ^
"We" didn't keep Robinson; RR did. Why he hired him in the first place is a mystery I'll be wondering about for a long, long time. It was a massive unforced error.
January 15th, 2011 at 7:05 PM ^
January 15th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^
He is better when recruits are on campus as opposed to recruiting on the road.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^
Rivals does show where he recruited a couple players for 2011 SDS team
January 15th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^
In the 2009 and 2010 recruiting classes, Al Borges signed two recruits to SDSU according to Rivals. Calvin Magee and Greg Robinson also signed two recruits combined in those recruiting classes. Seems to me as if the coordinators get in on some of the bigger names and higher recruits on the board and postion coaches do the bulk of the recruiting. The prominent Michigan postion coaches that pulled in the most recruits (Fred Jackson and Rod Smith on O, Tony Gibson and Tony Dews on D) signed 29 recruits during those two classes, with Gibson alone signing 12. I wouldn't worry too much about Borges and his recruiting prowess as much as I would whoever Hoke decides to hire on as his position coaches and he got off to a good start by bringing back Jackson.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:55 PM ^
But then you think about that Florida team a couple years ago that had Dan Mullen and Charlie Strong (both Coordinators) as ace recruiters.
So it's possible.
January 15th, 2011 at 4:14 PM ^
Definitely true, no doubt, but look at Florida's classes those years. They either signed or were in on so many highly ranked prospects that they had to have their coordinators actively recruit them because coordinators were the main recruiters for those kids with their other top schools. It's not like Florida is going to have the linebackers coach recruit a top-50 kid when Alabama is having Kirby Smart go after him, Texas sending Muschamp, ect.
If we are in the position where we need Borges to recruit kids because we are in on the top kids then that is a good problem to have. And don't get me wrong, there are exceptions to all of these statements and I'm sure position coaches have netted some highly ranked guys. I just hope, like you I think, that Borges is at least adequate on the recruiting trail.
January 15th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^
Not to get off topic, but I didn't want to create a thread, but how many coaches does Coach Hoke still need to hire. According to AnnArbor.com link
http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/fred-jackson-grateful-for-ch…
He has FJ, Borges, Hecklinski(not sure what position), Darrell Funk(OL), and Mark Smith(LB) so far. That leaves 4 coaches. Is that right? Are these guys known recruiters?
Sorry, if I hijacked the thread or change topics. Just curious.
January 15th, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
So much for the all-star staff. Half of his staff are SDSU coaches not including the S & C coach.
January 15th, 2011 at 5:38 PM ^
It's got to be hard for him to get assistants now because it's so late, IMHO. I am worried that if he does not get the staff in place, how is he going to recruit. Guys like Crawford, Countess and Frost(if still available) would want to know who their position coaches are and who the DC will be. I hope we hear something tomorrow. It would seem like 4 coaches left. Coach Hoke may take the DL. So we need a DB coach and a DC on the defensive side. And 2 coaches for the offense for possibly a WR and/or TE, QB, and a special teams coach.
January 15th, 2011 at 5:53 PM ^
You're absolutely right, he is basically backed into a corner when it comes to hiring coordinators and position coaches because of DB's ineptitude to make the switch when nearly every other program fires and hires their coaches. Like you said, I hope to hear something in the next 24-48 hours regarding coaching postion hires. Seems to me we could nab some guys that were previously here that are unemployed or have been demoted (i.e. Scot Loeffler and Corwin Brown) if the money is right. If they don't come here because we aren't willing to pay them enough, then it falls on DB and not Hoke as to why we are getting half of SDSU's coaching staff.
January 15th, 2011 at 4:13 PM ^
I imagine, all else being equal, coaching at M makes you a better recruiter.
January 15th, 2011 at 11:50 PM ^
And 110K
January 15th, 2011 at 5:31 PM ^
Not known as a recruiter, at least when he was at Auburn. Not sure of how hoke deployed him at SDSU
January 15th, 2011 at 7:05 PM ^
he brings along these guys he has palled with at SDSU, it will be much harder personally to let them go a year from now than if he had done it for the move. Oh, well.
January 15th, 2011 at 7:23 PM ^
One area that needs improvement - recruiting superior talent. I love the character of the players RR's regime was able to recruit , however with that said, we need a bit of a talent upgrade.
January 15th, 2011 at 8:15 PM ^
If we score more points than the opposition, I think we're going to win games.