Does anyone really believe there was a QB competition in practice?
I’m sorry but there is no way Cade could look so bad in practice that he couldn’t start over this.
There wasn’t a serious QB competition in practice this week. Harbaugh’s ego just refuses to acknowledge the reality that his pet QB project for this season is an utter failure.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:15 PM ^
I'm starting to believe there definitely was, and that should tell you everything you need to know about this coaching staff. I truly cannot make sense of what I am seeing.
Jim Harbaugh has been the head football coach at 4 organizations spanning over two decades, and achieved a level of success with each of them. How can this be the team he fields in year 6 at his alma mater that can barely keep pace with fucking Rutgers? There has to be some kind of explanation for what we are seeing. How is it that this team is far and away the worst team in the B1G?
November 21st, 2020 at 9:26 PM ^
If we beat Penn State we are only the second worst team in the Big.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:17 PM ^
Better with Cade
November 21st, 2020 at 9:21 PM ^
Wild Thing doesn't make that pass no matter what glasses he's wearing.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:25 PM ^
Agreed
November 21st, 2020 at 9:25 PM ^
I don't think there was a competition before the season either. There is no way in hell Milton is better than McCaffrey. I just wish Harbaugh would explain how Milton won the job.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:27 PM ^
November 21st, 2020 at 9:37 PM ^
I think Gattis is more responsible. There is no way JH hired Josh away from Maryland and didn't give him some autonomy.
However, JH is responsible for hiring an unproven OC.
November 22nd, 2020 at 10:19 PM ^
It is possible that Milton did not lose to McCaffrey. McCaffrey might have left because he did not like what he saw. Nico left, the O-Line is down, Shea went undrafted, etc..
You don't lose a year of eligibility with a 2020 transfer.
I have no proof. This is just a possibility. I also cannot believe that Milton was better than McCaffrey. McCaffrey was better in every way except for arm strength.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:27 PM ^
Harbaugh ran off McCaffery and it looks like DMC made a good decision to opt out to transfer.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:31 PM ^
Joe Milton is overrated. So what if he does better in practice. McNamara has a better touch on the ball and is much more accurate.
Good luck to Cade in the 2nd half-Go Blue!
November 21st, 2020 at 9:32 PM ^
Don't forget the horrible drops from the WRs/TEs
And key fumbles/penalties at key momentum-swinging moments in the game.
So far Milton is higher-risk/higher-reward (he's made some great throws, he's made some god awful throws), Cade is still in pre-2020 MacCaffrey area, fine in limited action (hope he gets more), but it's still too early to tell with McNamara, he needs to win this game on his shoulders first.
Also, lol, so many people on this board hated Shea, but he single-handedly won us at least 2-3 maybe 4 game both years (he had already hit his ceiling, which was never that high), now you see what he was able to bring, no?
Also: The defense seems to play with an edge when McNamara is at QB, could just be coincidence
Also, Also: Wisconsin dropped to Northwestern 7-14, this board would be on MELTDOWN if we had been in Wisky's position, so, temperence is a virtue--even for this Rutgers performance halfway through.
Also, Also, Also: Penn State is 0-5, so, should they also fire Franklin as so many want Harbaugh canned? Not so easy, right?
November 21st, 2020 at 9:34 PM ^
Milton high risk/high reward? There has literally been no sign of any "reward". There are 3-star true freshman that step in for teams every year that are better than this 3rd year player.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:40 PM ^
He's made some throws and runs that I don't think a lot of college QBs could make.
He's also thrown picks straight to the other team that I don't think a lot of QBs would make.
November 21st, 2020 at 10:17 PM ^
How many oreo blizzards have u had or didn't have tonight?
November 21st, 2020 at 9:44 PM ^
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell when a quarterback just doesn't have what it takes. You can watch football all day long and be hard pressed to find somebody that just has an inability to ever move his team. To think that this staff watches what goes on in practice all week and then makes the decision to march Milton out there tells you all you need to know about just how bad this staff really is. I don't blame Milton, I blame Harbaugh and Gattis.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:47 PM ^
idk. i've seen enough. he can make some tough throws but he is wayyyyyy too inconsistent with accuracy. i don't think there are enough practice reps in the world to cure that. and that has to be cured before you even start talking about proper reads.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:48 PM ^
It's hard to evaluate Cade on this game to much because he started in a 17 point deficit! So he's going to be forcing things! I thought he should of started the game then evaluate him! If he can bring us back that's very impressive! I'm sure harbaugh would still start Milton next week! Ugh!
November 21st, 2020 at 10:07 PM ^
Ima call BS. What does it tell you if those same recievers don't drop McNamara's throws?
November 21st, 2020 at 9:32 PM ^
10/12, 113 yards, 1 TD in 2 possessions.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:35 PM ^
My big takeaway is that I don't see the staff giving Milton any read-options, nor do I see him successfully moving through his progressions. McNamara comes in and does both immediately. Milton definitely has a better arm, but who gives a shit how far/hard/well you can throw it if you have no idea where it should be going....
November 21st, 2020 at 10:09 PM ^
I think they do and he's incapable of making a correct read or moving his ass quickly enough.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:38 PM ^
ESPN just said Michigan down 10 to Rutgers, next week they face off with Penn State, somebody’s got to win. ????
November 21st, 2020 at 9:41 PM ^
I believe there was a quarterback at practice. Beyond that I’m not sure.
November 21st, 2020 at 9:41 PM ^
I seen Cade in one series last week and said he should of started this week! He doesn't Milton puts us in a 17 point whole. Cade comes in and immediately drives us down the field! I don't know what the hell harbaugh and the staff see,but I'm not even getting paid millions!
November 21st, 2020 at 9:45 PM ^
I'm starting to think that the "competition" is oooooohhhhh he throws far....winner! ?
Seriously, anyone with eyes and common sense can see that McNamara is CLEARLY the better QB, at this point. McCaffrey was better than both, but alas.....
Milton can't accurately throw a crossing pattern, with consistency. Let alone a post or seam. Hell....he struggles with hitches and tunnel screens. Yes, he makes the occasional good throw, but it's not consistent. McNamara has shown poise and (more) consistent accuracy than Milton has.
I'm watching the play calls, and Gattis is scheming people open.....it's the execution that's the problem.
Having 3 of your 5 starting offensive linemen out definitely hurts.....especially when everyone is a new starter, to begin with.
QB play is the difference between a good team and a crap team. Look at the Patriots and Tampa Bay, right now. Brady isn't nearly as physically "gifted" as Cam Newton or James Winston, but he wins with the teams that lose with the other guys.
McNamara might not be Brady, but he's certainly more of a difference maker than Milton.
November 22nd, 2020 at 11:27 AM ^
Disagree. McCaffery was not this good. McNamara was flat out balling here. I don't remember DM having a day like this, even if its Rutgers level competition
November 21st, 2020 at 9:47 PM ^
Wow CORUM AND HASKINS. Great blocks !!!!!
November 21st, 2020 at 9:49 PM ^
Hill has half assed it all game tonight. Wtf
November 21st, 2020 at 10:27 PM ^
Nope. Cade is really good. He needs a few guys who actually catch the ball and an OL that blocks.
[I’m just catching the 2nd half after not watching the first. Geez, UM has fallen fast - many of these guys were on the field last year when they crushed RU. What went wrong so fast?]
November 21st, 2020 at 10:42 PM ^
At this point, the starting QB question has been resolved. Who's 2nd string, cause I'd sure prefer it wasn't milton.
November 22nd, 2020 at 2:18 AM ^
Nope. Milton can't tell what he's looking at and McNamara can, it's as simple as that. Milton's arm strength causing a bunch of drops and his accuracy issues didn't help him any, but you could see it working down the road if he could process what's happening.
Maybe Milton can improve, but this decision this year is an all time head scratcher.
November 22nd, 2020 at 7:08 AM ^
Yes I believe there was.
November 22nd, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^
I posted this in the QB1 thread about the competition last week as well.
My co-workers son plays on the team and she said that Milton was QB1 all week at practice and that by Wednesday it was announced to the team that Joe would get the start.
So no, there wasn’t a competition, just lip service. Frustrating as a fan, because unless Joe Milton is just terrible during games there is no way he should be ahead of Cade.
I actually feel bad for Milton, the coaches hyped him up so much that he has to feel like shit right now.
November 22nd, 2020 at 11:54 AM ^
They should always check with me first on these things.
November 23rd, 2020 at 7:45 AM ^
I do believe Milton performed well in practice but thats not the final test of a QB. He had an inferior secondary to throw at. Add to that the big factor of the pressure the big stage brings. The guy is a deer in the headlights when his nerves are up. His instinct to gun the ball on every throw is a wasteded down on repeat if the guys can't be exactly in the right spot with iron hands.
Cade may have a lower ceiling in arm strength, but not enough to matter. He mans up with vision and touch on the ball. Nice to see a wide open receiver get a rainbow now and then. He passes the eye test so far. At least there is a foundation in which to build upon.