The Dmac story?

Submitted by GhostofJermain… on November 15th, 2020 at 7:46 AM

Was able to get to AA on Friday and ran into a few people close to the team.  Wanted to share what I was told, one of these guys played with coach in the mid 80's, and the other is the husband of one of the regents.  First and foremost, they both said unless coach takes another job he will not get fired, but that coaching changes were most likely coming to the staff.  They also said without hesitation that coach was close to a contract extension last winter, but the situation took a back seat to covid.  

On Dmac - He was neck and neck with JM and doing very well.  DM pulled himself out of practice and told the coaches he felt sick, although he didn't look sick, and was having a great week of practice.  Apparently this ticked off coach and showed "a sign of weakness".  Seemingly coach then tried to motivate DM to get after it and continue to practice and workout with his team.  When DM told his parents about the way coach was handling him feeling sick they got extremely upset.  As a family they decided to sleep on it for that weekend, the following Monday Mr. and Mrs. Mcc let the coaches know that DM was going to finish his scholastic year and transfer.  It sounds like DM might go play for his father next season, while also looking at Nebraska, and West Coast schools.  

The only thing I will add to this story is that 100% DM was QB1 at the practice I was able to watch last winter.  I was puzzled when all the smoke started to come out about JM, and how he won the job.  I do not believe this was the case any longer. 

The program seems fractured.  In another story, JH has lost almost all the support from previous players from the Detroit area.  Almost all of them have been very vocal with their peers, high school coaches, and circle that JH is a dictator who plays favorites.  I'm definitely missing some guys on this list but here are a few (LockDownLew, Dawson, Hill sr, Ambry, Bellville coach, DPJ, and others). in fact if you look at their tweets in the past 2 weeks, they have all taken shots at coach.

Need to hold onto our recruits for next year, sign some more, and beat Rutger. 

Cheers  

Swayze Howell Sheen

November 15th, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^

"Harbaugh has to adapt or his tenure here will die"

Is this a serious comment?

Dude, you are usually so negative (and I kind of like it, sometimes). This is beyond hilarious though. There is no change coming at the scale needed to turn this ship around. Your comments sound like the Captain of the Titanic saying "I think she's gonna float if we just give it a little more time..."

 

Lakeyale13

November 15th, 2020 at 9:41 AM ^

Swayze, I agree 100% with you.  There is exactly zero chance Harbaugh would, could or has the ability to make the changes necessary personally and to his staff to turn the boat around.  

To continue the Titanic analogy....the ship is already sinking and Harbaugh thinks he can will it back on the water.  We all know how this is going to end.  JH can be the dude playing the violin while the ship completely submerges....but the entire thing is going down and will not be salvageable by anyone named Jim Harbaugh. 

jbohl

November 15th, 2020 at 8:11 AM ^

there is a reason that JH has a short shelf life.  he has poor people skills.  an enthusiasm unknown to mankind can only paper that over for a while.  weird guy.  m's Michigan Man hubris will keep him long after they should.  this decline will make RR seem like a small hill.

Vernors

November 15th, 2020 at 8:21 AM ^

I was going to say that stories like this, if true of course, maybe help explain why even in places that Jim was exceeding expectations, there was some friction among he and either management, the players, etc. Even if he chose to leave those places for something else, the friction may have made that an easy choice. Then you get to UM, where he seems to be a natural fit and will think twice about leaving for so called greener pastures. And yet, we haven’t seen the same kind of overachieving and success. It’s why we all feel frustrated and trapped. 

evenyoubrutus

November 15th, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^

The guy is crazy. Literally. Disconnected from reality. 

Anyone who excels that much and rises to the top of a profession, especially one like coaching football, must have a certain amount of crazy in them. But it's about balance. Harbaugh has no balance to his crazy. He's all crazy.

Didn't Brian say something like that he is himself AT MAXIMUM VOLUME all the time?

MGoStrength

November 15th, 2020 at 8:12 AM ^

When DM told his parents about the way coach was handling him feeling sick they got extremely upset.  As a family they decided to sleep on it for that weekend, the following Monday Mr. and Mrs. Mcc let the coaches know that DM was going to finish his scholastic year and transfer.

After the Minnesota game I was drinking the coolaide.  After the second poor showing I started to wonder if something fishy didn't happen to DMac.  Not to throw dirt on poor Milton, but I knew DMac couldn't be worse than this.

First and foremost, they both said unless coach takes another job he will not get fired

If all that you say is true, I'm not sure why this is the case.  If there were fans he'd be getting booed and I guarantee the stands would not be full for the next several games.  Maybe JH is benefitting from the pandemic?

but that coaching changes were most likely coming to the staff.  

Who do you fire though?  Brown & Gattis are probably job one & two to look for replacements.  Nua I can see as well with no development for Jeter, Hinton, Vilain, etc. to date.  You'd think Zordich is on the hot seat, but he's been with JH his entire tenure and the back end problems seem more a function of Brown's system and lack of talent than Zordich's coaching, although I'm sure many would be happy with a recruiting upgrade.  No way he's firing his son.  Moore is our best recruiter.  Warriner prior to this season seemed like one you'd want to keep.  Shoop seems like there's something fishy going on so I'd guess he leaves on his own.  McDaniels leaving would make sense with the QB struggles.

  • Warriner - Stay
  • Jay Harb - Stay
  • Moore - Stay
  • Zordich - 50/50
  • Jean Mary - Haven't hears a peep
  • McDaniels - Go
  • Nua - Go
  • Shoop - Go
  • Brown - Go
  • Gattis - Go

That's a lot of turnover.  Ultimately you have to think the problem is our CEO.

Indy Pete - Go Blue

November 15th, 2020 at 8:21 AM ^

To be fair, I cannot imagine these two sources wouldn’t possibly change their tone after losing 49-11 to a team that hasn’t practiced at full strength for weeks. Things are far worse than these two sources could have possibly imagined when the conversation happened on Friday. 

Squeezebox

November 15th, 2020 at 8:54 AM ^

The one problem I have with Zordich is that he doesn't teach his CBs to look back and track the ball.  That is why there are many slightly off target throws where the WR adjusts and our DBs don't where the ball is.  In the Indiana game there were a couple of underthrown balls where the WRs came back, but our DBs were in better position but couldn't adjust in time.  This is the main reason for the lack of interceptions.

Not to mention the penalties.

1VaBlue1

November 15th, 2020 at 8:56 AM ^

Changing staff isn't going to change anything.  The same thing will continue to happen - the constant is Harbaugh.  The problem is always the thing that keeps happening - Harbaugh.  Yeah, it's time for Brown to retire, and Nua can go with him.  I wouldn't be opposed to keeping everyone else if Jim goes.  Maybe Moore can go - the TE's universally suck.

The thing that hits most is that the two sources see a path to retaining the lone constant during all of the poor performances.

evenyoubrutus

November 15th, 2020 at 8:56 AM ^

Bacon has been saying on Twitter as well that Harbaugh will only leave if it's on his terms. UMbig11 said this too.

At this point, I have to wonder why this is even the case? We know with Lloyd, he had this status at Michigan, for a variety of reasons. But there is nobody of any significance left (that I know of) who thinks Harbaugh should continue into the future. What does Warde have to lose by firing him?

kscurrie2

November 15th, 2020 at 11:25 AM ^

Are you serious?  The regents don’t want a MSU-like situation..  If something goes down in athletics.. people protest at the regents meeting.  You really think they want to be clueless?  Stop thinking like a fan and think about this as an institution that doesn’t want to risk billions of dollars on the backs of 18-21 year olds..

Don

November 15th, 2020 at 10:39 AM ^

In normal circumstances I'm not sure I want Regents to be the primary decision-makers on whether to fire or retain coaches—they're politicians and/or business people. The decision should really be in the hands of the athletic director first and foremost. 

The problem is that Manuel is a former teammate of Harbaugh and is undoubtedly loathe to fire him both for personal reasons and Harbaugh's historical connection to the program.

I think the only reason the Regents would seek to unilaterally involve themselves would be if they're getting dire responses from major UM and athletic department donors who are threatening to yank their dollars. In that case, they might force Manuel's hand.

If that's not happening—if the donors and boosters aren't raising a ruckus—it's hard for me to envision Manuel doing anything other than extending Harbaugh's contract.

Bo once said that the most important decision any athletic director at Michigan would ever make is who coaches the football team. That could be seen as a swipe at the other sports, but I think it simply reflects reality.

MGoStrength

November 15th, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^

Bacon has been saying on Twitter as well that Harbaugh will only leave if it's on his terms. UMbig11 said this too.

I think when 2021 rolls around, if the team keeps loosing home games, the fans will be booing, recruiting will fall apart, and the stadium will be empty.  I guarantee that will make a difference in their perception and willingness to fire JH.

Go for two

November 15th, 2020 at 8:18 AM ^

Two years ago we ran all over Wisconsin 38-13. Last year we destroyed Notre Dame 45-14. The same ND who is now ranked #2. Last night we lost on the first offensive play of the game. We never recovered after that mistake.

jblaze

November 15th, 2020 at 8:20 AM ^

This is my biggest problem with Michigan. Harbaugh is as bad as Hole, but because he played under Bo, he can lose the team, former players, and as many games as he wants.