Defining moment for Michigan Men's Basketball.

Submitted by MichiganMan14 on

4 games left. @Maryland, NW, @Wisconsin and Iowa. Lunardi has us as a 10 seed "bubble" team currently. It's easy to heap additional negativity on the basketball program at the moment. It has frankly been a dissapointing campaign for the second straight year although this year is far better than last year. Michigan faces a defining 4 game stretch and B1G tournament in the next few weeks. Not just for this season but for the program. Programs are forged through consistency and the formation and capitalization of momentum. There is a real opportunity at this current time to form some momentum and capitalize on it through a March run. There has been a lot of banter back and forth between us fans over the past few months about the state and future of the basketball program. I think it's important to understand both sides of the coin. Beilein has done a very good job at Michigan and he built a winner here in Ann Arbor. He was a few possessions from a National Title and has won 2 B1G conference titles. I believe Caris will be his 8th professional he's coached at Michigan. Beilein has made us nationally competitive and done it the right way.

 

The other side of the argument is the direction of the Michigan basketball program. We had a tremendous 3 year run of 2 B1G titles and nearly back to back Final Fours. The last 2 years have been disappointing and we have not been national contenders. The argument lies in the perception of what we SHOULD be. Frankly, we should be nationally contending every year given our resources, facilities and history. I feel that Michigan should be what Michigan State is....which is a perennial top 10-15 team. There is no excuse for us not to be and this is something that is insured through recruiting. Some of our fan base is okay with being a bubble program. Many of us are not and the ideology of what we SHOULD be is what divides us. Growing up in the Fab Five Era is damaging to a Michigan basketball fan in all honesty. Those teams were literally the "coolest" thing in sports at the time and the 2012-2014 teams were similar in style, swagger and overall energy. Once you're able to whole heartedly root for teams of that nature...it makes the predicament of the last 2 years very tough to stomach. The long and short of it is How do we get back there? How do we get back to nationally contending? Do we have the roster and are we recruiting the TOP FLIGHT talent to get back there?

 

I'm genuinely concerned as are many on this blog, about the future and direction of this program. I see a competent but very Non-Elite future. That shouldn't be the case at Michigan. We should enter every season feeling as though we can win the B1G and have a run deep in the NCAA tournament. This year...we are clawing just to make the field as a 8-10 seed. Our recruiting has dipped significantly the past few years and this bodes very badly for our future outlook. It's not about being competent anymore. The bar was raised. It's now about being ELITE. Our rivals are recruiting ELITE talent and we are not. The notion of striking gold with 3 star talent year in and year out is a false one. Our evaluation has seen us frankly miss on a few high 4 star and 5 star talents as well. Then there is the issue of post development. We are consistently one of the worst rebounding teams in basketball and our defense has dipped significantly the past 2 years. We are not coaching, recruiting or developing at a championship level now and honestly appear to have peaked as a program. This is extremely disheartening and depressing for a truly proud and capable program and fan base.

 

 

The next 3 weeks provide an opportunity to curb this slide and build momentum into the next few years. Beilein has recently showed interest in some additional 2017 talent......from Detroit no less. (Gasp) we have 4 winnable games left on the schedule. Maryland is a team we've already beaten and Wisconsin is beatable in their gym. NW is a win and Iowa just lost to Penn State on the road. We have to at minimum split these 4 to get into the tournament. A 1-3 finish would see an overall 1-4 finish in the final 5 games and result in tough seeding for the B1G tourney. This CANNOT happen. It's imperative that Beilein find a way to squeeze 3 more wins out of our remaining B1G scheduling (including B1G tourney). Failure to do so would result in back to back failures to Dance on our part while MSU enjoys possibly back to back Final Fours. This is recruiting death. We were beaten head up for 2 of MSU's current ELITE class of 4 and shunned by a third in Langford after the Battle debaccle. This will get worse with another dip by us and rise by them.

 

Recruiting is something I could go on further about but it's simply well documented that we have either missed, miss-evaluated or been left at the alter on and by our top targets since Derrick Walton and Zak Irvin. The recruiting had to pick up and we cannot turn into Wisconsin. We should be top 3 in basketball recruiting in the B1G. No excuse. We have an opportunity in the short term to make some noise and show progression. Win 3 more games before the NCAA tourney and get in. Then, get to the 2nd weekend. Get aggressive in recruiting and turn this thing around.....it's all on the table for us. If we fail at this it's honestly a reflection on the staff, culture and future track of our program. It's a pretty crucial time for our basketball program honestly. There is a ton to gain and a lot to conversely lose. If we miss the tourney again, John Beilein will be under some substantial heat....and rightfully so. If he gets us to the Sweet 16...it won't be shocking and be a great sign of his ability to lead this program back to where it was just a few years ago. The scary thought is that we were bad in the beginning of his Era and then spiked to great heights...only to fall back to where we started. This is hopefully not the case. Michigan fans want to be nationally contending and that desire is beyond the desire of a particular coach being responsible for us attaining that status. I personally hope Beilein can get it done because he is a good man and a great coach. I also know and refuse to be in denial of the fact that sometimes things simply run their course and become stale. It's time for Michigan to step up on the court and on the trail. This is not a mediocre level program. Michigan is designed to be ELITE and nothing short of consistently being ELITE should be acceptable. Go Blue

Truthbtold

February 19th, 2016 at 2:25 PM ^

I think it's fair to sy that UM basketball has always been competitive and has reached rather impressive heights over the last few decades. What has changed isn't that the program is in decline, but rather that the other programs in the big10 have been on the rise. Not so long ago there was only 2-3 teams really any good, and the rest completely sucked. Times have changed, now there seems to be 4-5, 6 teams looking like they can beat anybody. This couple with the expansion has for the most part forever changed the landscape. UM will find itself finishing in the lower part of the top 1/3rd of the conference most often with a occasional year of elite performance. I think with few exceptions this will be the case for all of the historicity top big10 programs

FauxMo

February 19th, 2016 at 1:21 PM ^

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MichiganMan14

February 19th, 2016 at 1:01 PM ^

The phone isn't capable of formatting the spacing I put into the passage. This is very ridiculous and there is no way for me to fix this damn thing. Samsung failure.

MichiganMan14

February 19th, 2016 at 1:03 PM ^

This lack of formatting ability on mobile devices pisses me the hell off. I shouldn't have this issue with a damn Note 4 for Christ's sake. I apologize and even re-edited it to be in paragraphs....clearly to no avail.

klctlc

February 19th, 2016 at 1:59 PM ^

Forgettng the formatting hissy fits.

Good solid post. I believe you summed up a lot of people's feelings.  Definitely mine.

In no way, shape or form should Beilein be on the hot seat after this season, IMO.

However, after next year he should be if we don't make the dance or barely get in. 

I like Beilein's approach to recruiting and not trying to compete with one and dones ( for the most part), but when you build a program with 4 year players as your core, you better not miss too often. Right now our scholly situation is not pretty for the next two years.  

Simpson looks like the real deal, but Teske and Davis are huge unknowns.  We are full for the next two years on scolarships.  I don't see anybody leaving early to go pro. So it is what it is, or Beilin pulls a harbaugh and "cuts" players early.  Boy will the boy scouts on here go nuts if that happens.

Mr Miggle

February 19th, 2016 at 2:53 PM ^

Four games is not a moment and nothing about Michigan's basketball history says we should be a national contender every year. We've had contenders every decade, but never the sustained success of the very top programs. 

klctlc

February 19th, 2016 at 4:21 PM ^

There is no way we should not be as good as MSU. Absolutley no way.  If you are happy just being better than northwestern and getting in the tourney every year.  Good for you.  

As the OP pointed out with our facilities, our budget and our alumni, we should compete for the NC on a regular basis ( defining this is tough, but just say every 4 or 5 years) and be in the top 3 of the Big Ten every other year.

I understand that our current situation almost  fits the definition above. That is why i don't think there is any way Beilein is on the hot seat.  But you have to factor in the scholarship situation and it does not appear to get much better the next two years.

BTW. The only school in the Big Ten who has a better historical "tradition" in MBB is Indiana. That is it.  

 

 

 

Mr Miggle

February 19th, 2016 at 5:16 PM ^

You're suggesting realistic aspirations, essentially the same as I mentioned. The OP was not. He literally said we should be contending for the national championship every year. That's great to hope for, but unrealistic to expect.

MSU is ahead of us now for several reasons. Our facilities lagged way behind MSUs until very recently. Izzo built a very strong consistent program while he had a clear advantage over us. They're not going away, not while he's still there. It's unrealistic to think we should just overtake them because we're relevant again. They didn't just pass us, they moved into the CFB elite.

Yes, Indiana is the only Big Ten school with a clearly better basketball history, but we're not far ahead of some of the other programs. You have to give more weight to recent history and MSU and OSU surpass us there. Nationally, where do we rank in terms of basketball tradition? Honestly, we're somewhere outside the top ten and basketball is king at a lot of those schools. 

klctlc

February 19th, 2016 at 7:38 PM ^

Sorry.   You are correct the OP did say NC every year.  You challenged this. I then violently agreed with you.  Totally stupid of me.

Appreciate you not totally flaming me. 

I guess my original post's intent was to agree that expectations should be higher for the team.  It does seem some people are happy just making the tourney.  

I think you and I are close in our expectations.  I may be hoping for slightly more.  But who really cares.

I do not study MSU basketball but prior to Magic were they ever really good?  

I know M had Cazzie, then Hubbard/Green/Grote, then Tarpely/Wade/Grant, then Rice/Mills/Vaught Then fab 5 to Burke/Hardaway/mcGary.  

I know you said MSU has more recent tradition.  I agree totally, But LT, I really think M has significantly more tradition.