August 28th, 2010 at 2:16 AM ^
Only 6 days and a wake up now, till Dee is in AA watching Michigan rip apart Connecticut! Hopefully 7 days and a wake up will then bring us a Hello: Dee Hart post!
Go Blue!
August 28th, 2010 at 2:24 AM ^
August 28th, 2010 at 3:02 AM ^
Dee is not coming for the UConn game. He's going to go to Auburn instead.
August 28th, 2010 at 3:43 AM ^
I don't know where you get this idea, but you are incorrect sir.
per scout.com
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&nid=3986961
per Rivals.com
http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/player-Demetrius-Hart-93883
he has an official setup for next weekend.
August 28th, 2010 at 1:31 PM ^
I guess it doesn't make sense that people can change their minds, does it? Way to use dated info. as evidence. Here's something slightly more recent for you:
August 28th, 2010 at 2:01 PM ^
One Suggestion, before you go and put the horse before the carriage. You should look at the time of the post and realize that that article was not available. In doing this, you will look a lot less like a jerk to others.
August 28th, 2010 at 3:54 AM ^
a quote:
"Oh yea, I'll make official visits to all three," Hart said. "I'm going to Michigan Sept. 4 for the Michigan-UConn game."
Can you provide proof to substantiate you're claims?
I am curious.
August 28th, 2010 at 5:20 AM ^
No proof. This is recruiting, things change. Time will be proof enough.
August 28th, 2010 at 7:07 AM ^
August 28th, 2010 at 9:43 AM ^
he hasn't finished his clearinghouse stuff to be able to take official visits yet
August 28th, 2010 at 7:20 AM ^
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/tomvh-u-conn-visitors-list
If TomVH says he's coming, then he's coming. Oh, and he's bringing friends...
August 28th, 2010 at 8:53 AM ^
why do you guys acknowledge the guy with less then 2 points?
August 28th, 2010 at 9:21 AM ^
He actually had points until he posted this crap and we negbombed his ass.
August 28th, 2010 at 9:31 AM ^
......said the guy who got negbombed for suggesting Tate might end the year 3rd string.
August 28th, 2010 at 9:39 AM ^
Was there some announcement that suggests that Tate will be third on the depth chart?
August 28th, 2010 at 9:59 AM ^
he's correct. Doesn't look like Dee will be able to come on an official due to clearing house issues. He will instead take an unofficial to Auburn.
August 28th, 2010 at 10:22 AM ^
It's much less what he said and more how he said it. He stated a claim contrary to nearly ALL evidence available to the casual observer, and failed to substantiate any of it. Had he instead said what you and others have (clearing house issues, can't take an official, will probably visit Auburn instead) then we wouldn't be having this issue.
Not everyone can be cryptic like Obes and get away with it...
August 28th, 2010 at 1:42 PM ^
"It's much less what he said and more how he said it"..... I guess I'll let that slide if you're a woman.
August 28th, 2010 at 1:13 PM ^
If he is right, I will posbang him. But he didn't give any substantiation, leading to his demise. If you drop a bomb like that, give a shred of evidence to avoid these situations.
EDIT: I have followed through with the posbang.
August 28th, 2010 at 1:21 PM ^
I wish more people who neg bombed me would follow through too. Damn, I got destroyed.
August 28th, 2010 at 3:52 PM ^
My apologies. However, your phrasing and "matter of fact" attitude was easy to misinterpret. Providing some substantial evidence to support your claim would have helped your situation.
August 28th, 2010 at 3:59 PM ^
"Helped my situation?" Alright, next time I'll try to make it a little easier for you to interpret, that way you won't be so confused.
August 28th, 2010 at 5:56 PM ^
You stated it like it was common knowledge, which it wasn't when you posted. Expanding on such a comment helps the board interpret it as useful insight rather than what it came across as, a flame.
As stated, I had gone back and upvoted the post. However, I just went back and downvoted it again... not for the context of the comment, but because you are d-bag.
August 28th, 2010 at 1:23 PM ^
I never downvoted him, but I just posbanged him aswell. These days the paperwork trail can be excessive. I am not worried by the update.
August 28th, 2010 at 10:19 AM ^
I would much rather hear this from TomVH before believing any rumors--but it looks like this may be the case. Disappointing...like usual...but definitely NOT time to PANIC
August 28th, 2010 at 10:27 AM ^
already set in. This means no HaHa either even if he wasnt 100% coming. Optimism for msu and iowa games? sorry if the gloom is in the air but seriously this was huge for us as it is going to be a ridiculous atmosphere with plenty of talent on and off the field. We need to win big and have patti texting dee telling him how much hes missing out on a great visit so he wont pay any attention to the auburn staff....heres to hoping
August 28th, 2010 at 10:32 AM ^
August 28th, 2010 at 10:48 AM ^
but I think Patti is a big boy and will have to take trips without dee hart during his recruitment anyway so what does it matter. Anyway, I hope he makes it up and I will pull back my gloom seeing as people didn't appreciate it lol.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:21 AM ^
I have never heard of clearinghouse having anything to do with recruits taking official visits.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^
August 28th, 2010 at 12:13 PM ^
...Div I Manual has to say about eligibility to conduct official visits:
13.6.3 Requirements for Official Visit.The following requirements must be met before an institution may provide an official visit to a prospective student-athlete: (Adopted: 4/26/07 effective 8/1/07)
(a) A high school or preparatory school prospective student-athlete must present the institution with a score from a PSAT, SAT, PLAN or ACT taken on a national testing date under national testing conditions, except that a state-administered ACT may be used to meet the requirement. The score must be presented through a testing agency document, on a high school or preparatory school academic transcript (official or unofficial) or through the use of the applicable testing agency’s automated-voice system. An international prospective student-athlete who requires a special administration of the PSAT, SAT, PLAN or ACT may present such a score upon the approval of the Academics Cabinet or the Initial-Eligibility Waivers Committee; (Revised: 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08)
(b) A prospective student-athlete must present this institution with a high school (or college) academic transcript;
(c) A high school or preparatory school prospective student-athlete must register with the NCAA Eligibility Center; and (Revised: 5/9/07)
(d) A high school or preparatory school prospective student-athlete must be placed on the institution’s institutional request list (IRL) with the NCAA Eligibility Center. (Revised: 5/9/07)
13.6.3.1 NCAA Eligibility Center. A prospective student-athlete’s fulfillment of these academic requirements may be certified by the NCAA Eligibility Center approved by the Executive Committee. (Adopted: 4/26/07 effective 8/1/07)
13.6.3.2 Eligibility Ramifications. Violations of this bylaw shall be considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1; however, they shall not affect the prospective student-athlete’s eligibility. (Adopted: 4/26/07 effective 8/1/07
So yes, the prospective student-athlete must provide a standardized test score and a transcript to the NCAA Eligibility Center (the Clearinghouse), but there's no requirement to be "cleared" by the Clearinghouse. I find it hard to believe that Dee Hart hasn't established his account with the Clearinghouse and provided these two items.
But when it comes to recruiting, nothing really surprises me too much.
August 28th, 2010 at 12:17 PM ^
He's right, I just talked to Demetrius and he said they're not coming. That's too bad. He said it is a clearinghouse issue, but there's just some paperwork missing, nothing that will keep him from quailfying.
He's going to reschedule, not sure which one he'll make it to.
August 28th, 2010 at 12:32 PM ^
...that could be missing are a standardized test score or his transcript. Too bad they don't have things squared away in time for the UConn game.
Any idea if Nick Patti is still going to make the trip? As you described in your diary on UConn visitors, that visit seems to have a larger purpose than simply Nick's recruitment.
2012 QB, teammate of Demetrius Hart will be up with his Dad, and potentially with his trainer Tom Shaw. Shaw trains a ton of football players in Florida, including Florida State commit Karlos Williams. Nick told me that Shaw will play a big role in his decision, and he considers Tom to be an uncle.
August 28th, 2010 at 1:20 PM ^
Wow. Looks like I'm not a troll.
August 28th, 2010 at 1:23 PM ^
you were right. That's why I'm upvoting you. Sorry for jumping the gun on you, but hook us up with some evidence next time to prevent OMGDEEHARTMELTDOWN!!!
August 28th, 2010 at 1:28 PM ^
What am I supposed to do, link to a pay wall?
August 28th, 2010 at 1:33 PM ^
...that's what you should do. Then you identify the link with a $ or just say it's behind a paywall. Read this.
The information will spread whether or not we deploy the iron fist. The net impact of strict policing of premium content will be to obscure the source of the information. Instead of something coming from Rivals it will be a step removed or just asserted with no backing. A recent example: a premium post was replicated verbatim on HailVictors.com and then linked here pointing to HailVictors, not Scout.
So:
- You might as well relate the gist of some paywalled content. It'll come out anyway.
- Do not C&P. Rephrase.
- Don't relate every last detail. Leave the paywalled content some value. In this case, "it looks good for Dee Hart and we should be getting good news relatively soon" would probably work.
- If you do so, provide a link. Don't just say "Site X says." The link will draw some traffic, may spur conversions, and will help the site with search engine rankings.
This is not a license to rephrase every rumble from an insider or the entire contents of an ITF. Sporadic and important are your watchwords.
August 28th, 2010 at 1:47 PM ^
Got it. In the future that's what I will do. Still would like my points back though.
August 28th, 2010 at 2:13 PM ^
...about your points and see what happens.
August 28th, 2010 at 3:36 PM ^
Cool, thanks for the advice. BTW, you're a bit of a tool.
August 28th, 2010 at 4:37 PM ^
C'mon Dee!! I was so excited for a Hello: Dee Hart post coming after next Saturday. Hopefully he can get this stuff cleared up and make it up sooner then later! Keep workin hard Dee
August 28th, 2010 at 5:49 PM ^
Nick Patti will still be there.
August 28th, 2010 at 6:23 PM ^
Thank you Tom. Like the emotional ride this thread is, you send it back up with these updates. Thanks again.