Current scholarship count: 106

Submitted by TK on December 22nd, 2022 at 9:45 AM

So, currently at 106 scholarships from what I can tell. Yes, there still is an NCAA limit of 85 scholarships. No, the Covid year does not matter anymore, the NCAA went back to 85 cap in 2022. Yes, players can still receive an extra year for Covid; but they still count towards the 85 . So here is where things get interesting. How does NIL play into this? As far as I know, scholarships are four year offers. So a player like JJ cannot become a walk on and just have his scholarship paid by NIL. However, transfer players and 5th/6th year players probably can and still be within the rules. So if UM is bringing in grad guys like Nugent, they can probably work out an NIL deal and not have them count towards the 85. Also I believe a guy like Gemon Green could get the same arrangement since he would be a 6th year guy. Regardless, I think our number will probably be in high 80s so we will see a good deal of attrition when the season ends. There are quite a few guys who will depart for the NFL from this list also. I didn’t include guys who have already declared they are leaving.

 

QB (5)

McCarthy
Orji
Tuttle #
Denegal
Bell*

RB: (7)
Corum
Edwards
Stokes
Dunlop
Mullings 
Cabana*
Hall*

WR: (12)
Johnson 
Wilson
Henning
Anthony
Clemons
Morris
Walker
Dixon 
Dennis 
Moore*
Morgan*
English*


TE: (6)
Loveland
Hibner
Barner #
Klein
Tonielli*
Marshall*

OL: (20)
Barnhart
Jones
Zinter
Keegan 
Henderson #
Nugent #
Persi
Hinton #
Crippen
Atteberry
Bounds
El Hadi
Anderson
Gentry
Lorenzetti
Jones
Guidice
Herring *
Link*
Efobi*

DT: 11
Welschoff 
Smith 
Goode
Iwunnah
Jenkins
Graham 
Grant 
Benny
Etta*
Bahr*
Pierce*

DE: (12)
Upshaw 
Morris 
Okie
McGregor
Harrell
Stewart #
Guy
Moore
McLaurin 
Bennett
Pollard
Koumba*

LB: (12)
Barrett 
Velesquez
Colson
NHG
Rolder
Hood
Spurlock
Hausmann #
Hewlett*
Ishamail*
Bridgeman*
Moore*

CB: (10)
Green 
Turner 
Sainristil 
Perry 
Johnson
McBurrows
Jones
Pollard
Calhoun*
Hill*

S: (9)
Green
Johnson 
Moore
Paige
Moten
Sabb
Dent
Berry
Waller*


ST: (2)
Doman
Samaha*
 

 

 

 

 

 

Bambi

December 22nd, 2022 at 10:41 AM ^

100%. Our RB room as it stands now looks very thin after Edwards next year, and even lighter in 2024 and beyond if Edwards goes pro. Cabana looks like our best shot amongst current players to develop into a high level, game changing RB. So you need him there immediately to start adding weight and getting any reps he can for future years.

Amazinblu

December 22nd, 2022 at 10:38 AM ^

When does the team need to be at 85?   Is it when Fall Camp begins?   Is it when Spring Ball begin?  Is it the start of the winter term?

I could see player with three full years - or perhaps with 3 1/2 (if they were early enrollees) - graduating in may, and becoming a grad transfer at another school - and, if they redshirted, would still have two years of eligibility.

bdneely4

December 22nd, 2022 at 11:06 AM ^

I don’t have much input to provide on exactly who will be leaving and how all the numbers will end up but every year we end up having someone decide to leave that seems like a big deal. One thing I am confident in is this coaching staffs ability to manage a roster. There will be a surprise head scratcher that may leave and us fans feel like it is a big hit to our roster, but my guess is this staff has a pretty good handle on who is likely to leave. I will also say, I am so appreciative of all the players remaining on our team throughout this long period while the team gets ready for our Semi Championship game. With the open portal, it means a lot that these guys seem all in helping our team win a championship. Go Blue!

Tom in AnnArbor

December 22nd, 2022 at 11:15 AM ^

I am assuming with NIL tracking this is no longer necessary. 

I also speculate that an Alro Steel slush fund exists to the Recruiting Director to pay those bills.

<insert "Mo Money, Mo Money" gif here>

Seth

December 22nd, 2022 at 11:15 AM ^

I appreciate the work you put into this TK but CAN WE PLEASE NOW SHUT UP ABOUT THIS? The 85-player scholarship limit was created to prevent Michigan (specifically) and teams like Michigan from "stockpiling" players, IE to make it so all the guys who want to go to Michigan and Michigan wants can't do that. This hurts Michigan, and it hurts the players. It's a boon to MAC schools, which with open transfers and NIL are getting players who are likely just going to leave as soon as they can go to the schools they wanted to in the first place.

I think it's a good thing, for Michigan and morally, that NIL effectively negates the 85-man limit. The more we make a big deal out of that the more likely the corrupt assholes who care about the things the 85-man limit was supposed to accomplish are going to make a stink about it. Shut up.

FB Dive

December 22nd, 2022 at 7:41 PM ^

I don't think people are going to shut up about it until we understand it...and how it works is very opaque and confusing. None of the many threads about this have cleared up the burning questions about how NIL negating scholarships actually works. Ex:

-Who are the players that are taking NIL instead of scholarships? How is it decided which players take NIL? Based on the other comments in this post, it seems like it's at least possible that it's conference policy that you can't drop players once they're on scholarship. I don't see how players would want to the be the ones on NIL deals instead of scholarships, especially given how murky and unsettled the NIL landscape is right now.

-How exactly does this work? Are the players on NIL just getting checks equal to the monetary value of their scholarships/living expenses stipends? Where is the money coming from -- who is writing the checks?

-How is this legal? Here's Michigan's NIL law. My initial reading of this is that it explicitly prohibits universities from compensating players for their name, image, and likeness (look at §3(a)), which would reflect that the way NIL was intended to function was by players making NIL deals with third-parties on their own volition, not the borderline pay-for-play scheme that NIL collectives have transformed it into. Now any lawyer will tell you that statutory interpretation is a tricky matter, but without looking at any case law or legislative history, it seems like the statute prohibits Michigan from directly providing -- or even coordinating -- non-scholarship players with NIL to compensate for their lack of scholarship. Perhaps §4 can be construed to allow for it, but that wouldn't seem like a good-faith reading of the statute to me. 

-Even if this scheme is legal, if Michigan is able to so casually and effortlessly find hundreds of thousands of dollars for NIL "scholarships," why is our overall NIL is lacking? 

Seth

December 22nd, 2022 at 11:23 PM ^

You're talking about Michigan's NIL law, which doesn't even go into effect for another 9 days, and which is bound to be changed to conform with other states.

I don't really care how they found a way to have an argument that it's legal. It's not like it's something the NCAA gives a damn about. The only "cheating" I care about at Michigan is if someone is being harmed. This is the opposite.

And again, there's a moral aspect to this. The 85-man limit is a major detriment to a class of players that exists to create a parity that doesn't remotely exist. There are better ways to limit the sizes of classes that don't press programs to squeeze players out. And there are few things better that Michigan could be doing with its money than giving a free education to its walk-ons.

The overall NIL is lacking because they don't have a specifically sanctioned collective set up yet (Sam said on WTKA today that they may sanction more than one), so donors don't know where to give yet, so they don't have more than promises to give players yet. Every one of Michigan's peer schools already has set up the equivalent of a salary, paid for out of a collective that shares a donor list with the university. Michigan has plans for this. They do not have it up and running, and they did not have those plans when most of this class was recruited, hence they are behind.

Why is it easier for a scholarship? Because it's a concrete thing that a donor can back. They actually have a number of scholarships that certain donors cover every year that have always been part of the 85. It's a nice gesture from the donors, but it's an even nicer thing in their minds to cover a scholarship for a kid who would otherwise be paying his own way.

Kentucky.maize

December 22nd, 2022 at 11:22 AM ^

I get NIL can make be used, but why not allocate those funds to attract more top end talent? Would the 5-10 spots that are added really provide more benefit given those guys likely never see the field?

Sambojangles

December 22nd, 2022 at 11:41 AM ^

I believe football and basketball are the only sports with player scholarship limits - every other sport is based on fractions. For instance, baseball and hockey have unlimited roster slots but a limited number of scholarship equivalents, so many players are on only partial scholarship. 

Also, I believe that there are special rules where a player cannot go from recruited/scholarship status down to walk-on in order to circumvent the rules. Once you count toward the scholarship limit, you always do. Unless this has changed recently with covid/transfer/NIL rules.

I am guessing that some of the depth grad transfers are paying their own way (counting as walk-ons and not the limit) and supplementing with NIL money, somehow. For some, the Michigan degree plus football experience plus NIL is worth paying for access to, even over a scholarship elsewhere. If you see a future in football coaching or outside the sport entirely, Michigan has to be a great option. 

Remember, not every player is choosing based on playing time or NIL compensation uber alles. Each situation is unique and so there are a million different reasons to transfer to a school. 

MgoBlueprint

December 22nd, 2022 at 12:44 PM ^

Can’t players get merit scholarships, RMF (grad), GSRA (grad) funding if they meet the criteria and have great grades? 
 

I know that the NCAA has rules, but I feel like prohibiting deserving student- athletes from academic funding undermines the tenets of academic rewards

jakerblue

December 22nd, 2022 at 3:32 PM ^

For NIL why couldn’t the athletic department say they are using the players likeness to promote the football team and just pay them for that. 
 

or does the law specifically forbid money directly from the school?

RealElonMusk

December 22nd, 2022 at 4:30 PM ^

If we can't lure 5 stars with guaranteed NIL deals then taking a higher number of 3-4 stars and seeing who pans out seems like a viable strategy.  This coupled with the portal may be a better strategy than bidding for 5 stars out of HS.

leidlein

December 22nd, 2022 at 9:17 PM ^

Am I the only one nervous about out kicking / punting for next year? Only Doman and a true-frosh on scholarship to handle the duties? I am guessing / hoping there are some walk-ons who have shown to be capable. I am very nervous if Doman is expected to handle doubly duty with virtually no experience.