TallyWolverine

February 23rd, 2021 at 9:25 AM ^

Jim Jordan has a tiny mushroom penis pacifier, and a brain that is fueled by orange feces.

Dont let it be forgotten- Jim Jordan was an assistant coach for the OSU wrestling team in which it’s members were assaulted by the team physician. He didn’t care then, he doesn’t care now. He’s a colossal scumbag!

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1VaBlue1

February 23rd, 2021 at 1:13 PM ^

Well, for starters, he covered up and ignored years of sexual abuse perpetrated against his wrestling team.  To follow that up, he gave a state welcome to, and furthered, conspiracy theories against fair elections.  He also in favor of the continued gutting of the Voting Rights Act.  He has since played a leading role in an armed insurrection against the United States Government.

But nobodies life was impacted by any of this, right?

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befuggled

February 23rd, 2021 at 1:55 PM ^

Jim Jordan helped cover up a sexual abuse scandal. Instead of admitting to that, he literally--very literally--blamed it on a conspiracy against him.

Which makes it more difficult for people like the Ohio State wrestlers to come forward after they were abused.

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buddhafrog

February 23rd, 2021 at 5:28 AM ^

this is a legit post, but it's hard to discuss this without being political. Jordan was said to be planning a run for Ohio Senate this cycle as well. Hoping/expecting it to be fair and factual and holding to account those responsible.

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blueheron

February 23rd, 2021 at 8:46 AM ^

It's funny. In high school I might've wondered "What if someone put our meathead wrestling coach in charge of something really demanding / important / both?"

Now I know!

In defense of that meathead coach, he was very good in his domain. There are a couple pieces of my workout that date back to those days. (I didn't wrestle. I got them from friends on the team.)

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WestQuad

February 23rd, 2021 at 9:38 AM ^

Wrestlers have a tenacity and resilience that most people can't imagine.  Jim Jordan was a world class wrestler.  I have the same respect for his wrestling career as I do for Michael Jackson's music, or Jerry Sandusky's [86] defense that crushed Vinny Testeverde and the Hurricanes.  it's been debated before.  Can you separate things out or does every action or inaction speak to the whole?  

I think it is horrible what happened at PSU, MSU, OSU, the Catholic church and even UofM.  There is either a systemic problem or people universally fail us in these situations.  Almost all of this stuff happened after people were "woke" to the issues.

 

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bronxblue

February 23rd, 2021 at 9:57 AM ^

We're not debating Jim Jordan's wrestling ability; we're commenting on his ability to be a leader of this country when he failed in his duty as a leader of a team to protect student-athletes from sexual assault he seemingly knew, or had a strong inkling, was going on.  I mean, I still like "Ignition" from R. Kelly but still think he should be in jail for sexually assaulting numerous minors, and absolutely am fine with his label dropping him.  You aren't owed a separation from your output and your person in society's eyes, especially when the two are so intertwined.  

Also, people weren't particularly "woke" to sexual assault of young people, including athletes, for a long time; the reason I know this is because it kept happening at PSU, OSU, MSU, UM, the Catholic Church, etc. for decades and virtually every story follows the pattern of "somebody say something, didn't report it properly or it was buried because powerful institutions didn't want to deal with it, so hundreds of more people were victimized until it reached a critical mass and people finally listened."  

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MGoStrength

February 23rd, 2021 at 10:58 AM ^

It's funny. In high school I might've wondered "What if someone put our meathead wrestling coach in charge of something really demanding / important / both?"

Now I know!

In defense of that meathead coach, he was very good in his domain. There are a couple pieces of my workout that date back to those days. (I didn't wrestle. I got them from friends on the team.)

Sometimes I wonder "Am I that meathead coach?"  At my heart I've only ever really been interested in sports and lifting.  I'm a bit of a philistine.  Despite my meathead tendencies I have a master's degree in exercise science.  I also know there aren't many of me around that have a master's degree in exercise science and have worked as a college S&C coach.  So, I know that I can provide something to my students that many other people don't have access to.  I know I am planting the seeds that some will later on in life reflect and wonder "why didn't I take this more seriously back then?"  But, I also know my lane and have no desire to pretend to know anything about policy.  I stick to what I know and keep my mouth shut about politics outside the walls of my personal life.

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Eng1980

February 23rd, 2021 at 1:14 PM ^

Oh my.  Why do I believe you?  On perhaps a different note, I have run into so many goof ball authority figures years later and in a more casual environment only to conclude that they did the best they could given their meager talent and there is no reason for me to hold a grudge (in spite of the pain incurred at the time.)

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MGoStrength

February 23rd, 2021 at 3:16 PM ^

Although there is plenty of nuance to applied sciences like exercise science and nutrition that can help you improve 2%, we also know that the most important things adherence, application, & effort.  Therefore a supportive coach/teacher that can get the most out of their athletes/students will always be better than an asshole coach with the perfect system.

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1VaBlue1

February 23rd, 2021 at 8:49 AM ^

So, being the jaded schmuck that I am, I can't help but think this to be more a political hit job than anything else.  And don't get me wrong - getting rid of Jim Jordan can only be a net gain.  But entertainment companies usually do things to make money, and I can't see this docuseries making more money than the MSU abuse scandal would.  Sure, it involves a powerful, sitting Representative and a bunch of exposed coverups.  But it also deals with homosexuality, which isn't something that 'mainstream' media and entertainment still largely treat as anything more than a sideshow.  It's as much a lightning rod as religion - which, maybe, is why the focus is here?  That would be plausible, I guess...

But for some reason, I can't help but feel that the more audience gaining documentary would be about MSU.  That has what, on the surface, seems like a more 'sellable' story of abuse perpetrated against 'little girls' - the demographic we, as a society, are still conditioned to protect above all others.

I mean, if it were me, I would focus on the aspects that made both cases possible - institutional coverup and the exploitation of non-adult (and/or barely adult) athletes in the name of winning.  And maybe that's what this will actually be?  I hope so, because I can't believe that Clooney would sign off on some half-ass BS that would do little more than open him up to lawsuits.

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Blue Vet

February 23rd, 2021 at 9:07 AM ^

While focusing on the role of money in movies is usually a good bet, two factors here mitigate its power.

First, Clooney doesn't need more money, so he can do a project simply because he wants to.

Second, documentary filmmakers mostly do their work for respect and prestige. (Of course, even this motivation is influenced by money, as many documentary filmmakers come from comfortable backgrounds where they don't need to worry about making a living.)

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IheartMichigan

February 23rd, 2021 at 9:06 AM ^

This is comical, coming from Hollyweird, the biggest ring of pedophile's and sickos that exist...Pot, meet Kettle...Maybe he should start off with the Hollywood and Epstein one first.

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