CFB Week 10 AP Poll Michigan#13
The full AP Poll for Week 10:
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1 | LSU |
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2 | Alabama |
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3 | Oklahoma State |
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4 | Stanford |
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5 | Boise State |
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6 | Oregon |
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7 | Oklahoma |
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8 | Arkansas |
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9 | Nebraska |
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10 | South Carolina |
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11 | Clemson |
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12 | Virginia Tech |
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13 | Michigan |
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14 | Houston |
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15 | Michigan State |
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16 | Penn State |
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17 | Kansas State |
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18 | Georgia |
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19 | Wisconsin |
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20 | Arizona State |
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21 | USC |
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22 | Georgia Tech |
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23 | Cincinnati |
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24 | West Virginia |
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25 | Auburn |
Rest of our schedule: Nov5 @Iowa (2-2,5-3), Nov12 @Illinois (2-3,6-3), Nov19 #14Nebraska(3-1,7-1), Nov 26 OSU(2-2,5-3)
October 30th, 2011 at 2:08 PM ^
I think 13 is about right for us right now. PSU is way overranked. I thought they should've stood pat at 19 at best.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:50 PM ^
is way too high even at 19. Their schedule will catch up with them over the next three weeks, and they will drop out of the top 25 completely.
October 30th, 2011 at 3:41 PM ^
October 30th, 2011 at 2:09 PM ^
Same as Coaches poll. There is consensus.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:10 PM ^
Thanks for posting the entire poll instead of a link. Being as lazy as I am, I like having all of my information in one place.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:11 PM ^
After watching Stanford struggle yesterday, I'm thinking there will be a 1 loss team in the BCS championship game. Could it be us? I like to keep the dream alive. If we beat Nebraska, it should be a huge boost in the polls.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:25 PM ^
You're dreaming. And if by a miracle we got into a game against an LSU or Alabama, the result wouldn't be pretty. Not this year.
We are clearly not an elite team on the level of the top four or five teams. We would get our asses handed to us if we played any of their defenses. Nor is it likely that we'll beat Nebraska. They'll load the box against the run like MSU did, and dare us to pass.
And we don't yet have a consistent passing game.
Denard is going to develop that consistency in his second year under Borges, who said that's what usually happens with his QBs in his system. Next year, we'll see improvement and a more experienced team.
This year we lose to Nebraska and, sadly, OSU.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:34 PM ^
If our passing game is inconsistent, what does that make Nebraska's and Ohio State's? You're crazy if you think losing to Nebraska and Ohio State at home is a foregone conclusion.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:46 PM ^
Simple. They have more powerful running games. You can stack the box against them, and they can still run. MSU proved that we need a strong passing game.
We are not at an elite level yet.
October 30th, 2011 at 3:13 PM ^
Nobody ever said Michigan was an elite team. OSU has lost three times, none to elite teams, and Nebraska is as inconsistent as teams get. It is not going to take an elite-level performance to beat either of these teams at home.
As far as "power" running games go, OSU ran for a whopping 35 yards (.9 per carry) against Michigan State, so stacking the box seemed to work just fine. Nebraska managed 190 yards rushing against Michigan State, but on 58(!) carries. That's 3.3 yards per carry. Using your logic, MSU proved that each of those teams needs a passing game. So, again, what makes losing to these teams a foregone conclusion?
October 30th, 2011 at 4:52 PM ^
October 30th, 2011 at 2:49 PM ^
Get out of here with this we're going to lose bullshit. This is not last year. I dont care if OSU just beat Wisconsin, that does not scare me. Its time to start believing in this team. We play them at home and will extra fired up. Osu has improved, they have a great D, but fuck, so do we. So quit with all this negativity. That msu game was bad, i get that, but all teams have a game like that. I say bring on the buckeyes and whoever else you think we cant beat.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:47 PM ^
so even if there's a one-loss team in the BCS champ game, it won't be us.
My rule of thumb is that it takes 3-5 weeks to halve your ranking if you win all your games.
If we win out, we should be able to get to around ~6. But #2 is another couple orders of magnitude.
And Michigan #13 beating a #9 Nebraska is an ordinary event. No big boost there.
I'm just going to enjoy us winning.
October 30th, 2011 at 4:08 PM ^
When one of them loses they drop to at least #5 and at most #8 and likely pushes Boise St. down the list. Arkansas jumps Oregon and Oklahoma with a win over the highly overranked #10South Carolina and may even leapfrog the loser of the LSU Bama game. Arkansas win over a ranked opponent may even push them past BoiseSt to the #4 spot. Michigan jumps VaTech and Clemson with a win @ Iowa due to the other teams sitting in a bye week, and the (now) 2 loss South Carolina to the number 10 spot, and Nebraska stays roughly where they are.
Summation: next week Michigan could likely be #10 with a convincing road win and Nebraska could be at #8 or #7.
The week after (maybe #8-9) Oregon and #4 Stanford play and if Stanford loses they'll drop under Nebraska and may land right above us, or 1 spot under. (not because of how good or bad they are, just because of the math) If Stanford wins then Oregon drops out and Michigan definitely moves up 1 spot. Boise could be knocked off by TCU and drop them into the teens and both Nebrasa and Michigan move up. Nebraska also plays ranked PSU and a win leapfrogs them over Oklahoma and the loser of the Oregon Stanford, and maybe the loser of the LSU/Bama game as well. So the week after Nebraska could be as high as # 4 with a Boise loss and we could be as high as # 8 with Boise and Oregon losses or we could slide down to 11 with a close Stanford loss and a Boise win.
So if Nebraska and Michigan win out until we play each other then the matchup could be as high as #5 vs #8 with the ranking being (theoretically) Bama, Stanford, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Nebraska, LSU, Oklahoma, Michigan.
If Oregon wins over Stanford and Oklahoma beats OKState then we have a shot of being ranked in the top 5. If Bama loses to LSU at home and then LSU beats Arkansas we could end up as high as #4 with the ranking being LSU, Oregon, Oklahoma, Michigan before the conference championships.
Of course this is all theory...
October 30th, 2011 at 4:36 PM ^
October 30th, 2011 at 3:08 PM ^
still play each other, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State still play each other, and LSU and Bama still play each other. TCU might even pick off Boise St. It could likely be Stanford over Arizona State for the Pac12, if Stanford wins out then they're in. If they lose once (maybe to Oregon) and Olahoma State loses to Oklahoma then any number of one loss teams will be vying for that last spot, probably coming down to the best showing in a conference championship game, which means Olkahoma would likely be out of contention.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:12 PM ^
Why is Arkansas at number 8! They are not a great team. Barely scraping by Ole Miss and Vanderbilt is the key to success?
October 30th, 2011 at 2:16 PM ^
They are ranked high because they haven't lost a second game. Yet.
I could easily see them dropping south carolina and lsu.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:17 PM ^
yes but they're in the VAUNTED SEC
October 30th, 2011 at 2:25 PM ^
I've had a problem with their ranking since the beginning of the season.
Arkansas got killed by Bama (worse than Penn State), they barely beat Mississippi or Vanderbilt, their most respectable win of the season (A&M) is total horseshit now that everyone realizes A&M (and the entire Big 12) can't play defense, their top RB has been out all season...I can go on and on.
I have a bigger problem with Arkansas than any other ranking.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:50 PM ^
don't sweat it.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:16 PM ^
I can't stannd them, living in PA people think there amazing. Drives me crazy!
October 30th, 2011 at 2:17 PM ^
and may struggle again in the future. As long as we keep winning, we will advance.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:26 PM ^
Except for Boise and Virginia Tech, everyone ahead of us plays someone else ahead of us.
Lots of room to move up.
#1 LSU vs #2 Alabama, #8 Arkansas
#2 Alabama vs #1 LSU
#3 Stanford vs #6 Oregon
#4 Ok St vs #7 Oklahoma
#6 Oregon vs #3 Standord
#7 Oklahoma vs #4 Ok St
#8 Arkansas vs #10 South Carolina, #1 LSU
#9 Nebraska vs MICHIGAN
#10 South Carolina vs #8 Arkansas, #12 Clemson
#12 Clemson vs #10 South Carolina
October 30th, 2011 at 2:23 PM ^
I see Michigan is now ranked ahead of MSU. Just checked cfbstats and our scoring defense ranking moved ahead of them as well (MSU - 15 ppg, UM - 14.6). However, they are ahead in total defense (UM - 332.9 vs MSU - 228.8). This may be because of the Michigan defense's propensity for timely turnovers (Courtney Avery yesterday for example), which lessens the scoring but doesn't necessarily mean low yardage totals. Michigan also ahead in scoring offense (MSU - 26.8, UM - 34.8).
October 30th, 2011 at 2:35 PM ^
For total defense (UM - 332.9 vs MSU - 228.8), I think part of our 332.9 yardage is all the INTs Denard has thrown which turn into opponents' more drives and eventually more yardage. But our D has been good to keep them from scoring TDs.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:40 PM ^
People are overlooking Iowa and Illinois. Iowa has McNutt, it will be a big test for Countess and Floyd, especially with Kovacs out. Illinois is so athletic you can never really count them out. Michigan is a rivalry game for everyone. Nebraska - if we can stop Burkhead we can make things happen, home field helps. Ohio State, people have gone from saying we'll 100% win to now saying we'll definitely lose. Ohio State isn't as bad as we thought, but isn't that good either. Defense is legit, especially on the line and LB, so hopefully our OL is healed up by then. Braxton Miller has gotten better the past few weeks, but so has our secondary. I'll pick Michigan to beat the Buckeyes because a) I want them to b) We are at home c) Michigan Jerseys are selling in Ohio d) Hoke is going to have some tricks up his sleeve, he knows that a win against them could be a game changer for the next couple years.
October 30th, 2011 at 2:59 PM ^
What a difference 2 weeks make.
October 30th, 2011 at 3:00 PM ^
Rankings don't matter. The goal is to beat ohio and win the B1G.
This Is MICHIGAN
October 30th, 2011 at 3:14 PM ^
After yesterday, I think perhaps for the first time this year, I totally buy where we are right now. Glad to see we're ahead of MSU. Hopefully, this is when they start realizing that we're not the only game they play.
No, they'll never admit that....
October 30th, 2011 at 3:38 PM ^
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October 30th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^
Has anyone noticed that the only Texas/Florida school listed is Houston? Lolz