Beilein removes all transfer restrictions on Doyle and Albrecht
Not surprised he relented and removed restrictions on Albrecht since he's a grad transfer, but I don't think it's bad form to put reasonable restrictions on a non-grad transfer (i.e. can't transfer to another B1G school).
I wonder if this will be the new norm going forward for him.
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"He didn't fuck up in the least"
I don't think even the rosiest Beilein supporters believe that.
fairly "rosey" and I don't get this at all really. Make the decision, stand by the decision, take the criticism, learn from the issues that lead to this point and move on. If this was in deed an athletic department decision to "reverse course" it feels Dave Brandon-esque and is not a good sign either, IMO.
obviously does. He's the only one, I'd imagine.
If the fifth year isn't promised or guaranteed, then why should Beilein have a say in where that player should go. If you wanted him to stay, you could've given him a fifth year. By not giving him the fifth year (which I'm totally fine with), you should forfeit any say on the matter. It is not right to essentially kick the guy off the team and then restrict him from pursuing his dream for one more year.
I am saying is that if the NCAA came out with a rule that a graduate transfer can only play at a team outside their conference, I don't think anybody would have a major problem with it. It would be a reasonable limitation if applied universally and I think that his initial position was an understandable position even when applied to players he cares about. He needed to be willing to stand by it though and withstand the criticism that was going to come at him. Being successful is certainly not a popularity contest. I dislike the 180 here more than I dislike the original stance.
I am saying is that if the NCAA came out with a rule that a graduate transfer can only play at a team outside their conference
I would.
...but then, I think players should be able to transfer any time they want between seasons with no penalty at all to any school of their choice that will have them.
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Not suggesting it is new. I firmly believe that its unfair to refuse to keep a player on the team while at the same time restricting where he can go. There are certainly instances where I could be convinced otherwise (if the player had an offer to stay for his fifth year) but when you give someone a firm handshake, he should be free to choose his next spot. You didn't give him the option to stay, so why should you be able to prevent him from going somewhere of his own choosing.
Mike Greenberg (on Mike and Mike this morning) absolutely skewered him after the Pat Forde article. Regardless of the Big Ten rule, it does look bad on paper, and definitely presents a PR issue. I'm glad he relented.
I think Greenie used the facts of the case, and Forde was the one who brought them to his attention. I don't think he was holding up Forde as a beacon of journalistic excellence.
I get the point, but I don't really hold the opinions of either Mike highly
...an April Fool's joke: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/040116aaa.html
...I wonder if he buckled under pressure.
JB got taken to task today on Mike & Mike. I know they aren't the most prolific of sports journalist, but millions of people listen to them. Bad PR for us for sure.
Glad JB came to his senses.
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I mean, I don't understand why Doyle would have restrictions in the first place. I kind of doubt he will be going to any big time D1 progams anyways. I mean that in the nicest way possible, best of luck to him.
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JB shdould call in to Mike and Mike and just remind them of the shitshow going on at UNC and Syracuse. As soon as it's brought up, ESPN would drop the call. How can those two morans not use their brians and see the bad things that are actually going on...
Looked pretty promising as a freshmen. Hard to know how much the sleep issue affected him and if so, how much that will continue to affect him in the future. If the sleep issue was the main cause of his regression this year and he can get it under control, I could see him being a solid role player at a good bball program.
of symptoms for sleep apnea almost completely mirror exactly all of the terms I would use to describe Doyle's regression. Difficulty focussing, lack of energy, difficulties with hand-eye coordination. Doyle as a second year player was SO much different than his first year that I think it is safe to say that it was probably directly related to the sleep issue.
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Crazy, I had that exact same visual.
none. period. this will be completely forgotten by the time next season rolls around.
i think we can agree that beilein is not the first coach to go through this kind of 'controversy.' i would wager that you can't name five other times it's happened, despite the fact that these stories appear every offseason. if you CAN name five, i bet you can't tell me how there've been any lingering effects on the programs.
go ahead, make a list and tell me how the programs or reputations have actually been harmed. i'll wait.
The fanbase is more of a mess.
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The performance and recruiting of the basketball team has been aggravating. The constant moral outrage from this fanbase over inconsequential issues is even more aggravating.
Was anyone really upset that Spike Albrecht, a guy who most people don't know and have never talked to, was going to be slightly limited in his choice of a free masters degree? Of course not. But people here see it as an opportunity to channel their displeasure at the team's performance, so we get a 300-post thread ripping Beilein apart. It's ridiculous.
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Okay, so Beilein caved too quickly to pressure, and he gets some bad PR for a day or two. Is that it? That makes our program a mess?
We have two programs in the Final Four who blatantly cheated for years at the expense of education, and I'm supposed to care about this?
When you've gone two weeks without an NCAA tournament appearance, things get ugly
whatever the hell that has to do with anything.
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What teams would you measure our success against? Not saying being better than OSU is the goal, but surely we can't compete against the Kansas/Duke/UNC type of school for a realistic expectation in the near future
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You mean that team that we are 6-6 against in the last five years?
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Doesn't the 26-9 stat cut directly against your argument that we should expect more from Beilein? If his performance is significantly better than the historical average, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with those numbers.
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but you going back only 5 years talking about the record between Michigan and MSU in basketball is as stupid as MSU fans talking about the past 7 year record in football. Take a larger sample size, they've owned Michigan.