Athletics and Academics have been "Out of Balance" at Michigan for 90 years . . . and it still turned out OK.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:00 PM ^
Your title led me to believe that Schissel concluded this himself.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:05 PM ^
Yeah really. If you're going to editorialize, don't do it in the thread title. Or at least do it in a way that makes it clear you're editorializing and not quoting the president.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:04 PM ^
I thought the exact same thing. Maybe the title should be "Note to President Schlissel: ..."
December 4th, 2014 at 12:04 PM ^
I can't believe I read all the way to the bottom to see where Schlissel agreed with Angell's comment.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:05 PM ^
Makes sense. I fixed it.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:08 PM ^
my blood pressure spiked and my heart filled with rage for a second there.
Good thing it's noon. Time for a drink.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^
Um ok?
December 4th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^
I agree... I would even venture to say that prominent athletic programs, when they're competitive and successful, actually have a POSITIVE effect on academics. I'm not sure where one would even start to gather data, but I would hypothesize that a successful football or basketball season increases the amount of incoming applicants for a university, thus allowing that university to be more selective when choosing their student body by increasing the minimum credentials needed to be accepted.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:58 PM ^
I'm not so sure about that one. Seems like a decent reach to me, and a situation that Michigan wouldn't really see any benefit from... they can already be pretty damn picky.
Not to mention, that sure is looking at a pretty small portion of the overall situation.
December 4th, 2014 at 1:52 PM ^
I suppose it could be true. I know in my case it made a difference. I'm not from Michgian, but I had an academic profile at the time that was consistent with what Michigan wanted.
One of the reasons I was willing to apply to a far away school like Michigan was that I liked the big-time athletics it had. it was not the main reason, but it was one of the reasons, even though I was a "serious" (graduate) student.
That's not to say that if I did not apply that someebody else that fit what Michigan wanted would not have filled the slot. But you have to think that over time, having a larger more rounded base of candidates to choose from makes a difference.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:43 PM ^
double post...
December 4th, 2014 at 12:57 PM ^
should we ignore the academic fraud at unc because it doesn't reflect one iota on the work of the 99% of non-student athletes that comprise that world class school?
December 4th, 2014 at 1:50 PM ^
I don't think that academic fraud is necessarily synonymous with big time athletics. You can have big time athletics and not have fraud.
I do think you can have big time athletics and not have it negatively impact the academics of the University. The fact the Michgian has had big time athletics for 100 years (to the point that many people viewed them as completely out of control), and yet is still a world-class institution, shows that the two can co-exist.
Nobody is advocating for fraud. But do I believe that you can have 100,000 people watch the University's football team and pay the football coach $4 million, and still maintian academic excellence? Yes. Our own history shows it to be true.