An appeal to reason
After reading some of the posts on the MGoBoard today with some users worried about how Harbaugh and Michigan did with this 1st recruiting class yesterday, I submit a couple thoughts to consider:
1. This coaching transition was unfortunately really late in the game for this recruiting cycle just like it was when we hired Hoke in 2011. It is hard to flip recruits in only one month. Even Urban Meyer had an extra month compared to us in his 1st year. But it was worth it; we got Jim f*cking Harbaugh.
2. A majority of our staff came from the NFL. Usually in a college coaching transition, most of the coaches are coming from college jobs so they already have relationships in place with recruits, high school coaches, and parents. Only Mattison, Durkin, and Drevno were in college jobs last year, and Drevno was with the 49ers the year before. Almost half our staff haven't been in college football in 4-5 years so it is going to take time for them to build and rekindle relationships.
3. Michigan does not have a strong in-state recruiting base to draw from. It is just a fact fans need to accept. It was going to be hard to land last minute high profile recruits without one. Florida's class probably looks worse than ours if it wasn't for the fact they had a couple 5 star recruits that were going to commit no matter who was the coach. Compare our results to Brian Kelly's 1st class at Notre Dame (http://notredame.247sports.com/Season/2010-Football/Commits) or Butch Jones's 1st class at Tennessee (http://tennessee.247sports.com/Season/2013-Football/Commits). Any transition without a strong in-state recruiting base especially with such a late hire was going to be rough.
4. No player that we lost yesterday that we had a reasonable shot at (I don't include Iman Marshall in this group) was going to change the face of our program the next year or two. I think you can make a case for Chris Clark, but I don't think Mike Weber or Van Jefferson were going to program changing difference makers so it is hard to get too worked up about losing them.
I am actually pretty impressed at the job they did, and we are kind of fortunate that we didn't need a large class this year. I was kind of hoping we could pull Chris Clark and Van Jefferson, but besides those two, it was hard to be too disappointed about yesterday's results. I have a feeling people will feel a lot different this time next year.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
I didn't notice any panic on this board [normal caveats apply]
February 5th, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^
The fans who populate this board were, for the most part, pretty upbeat about yesterday. Only a few media people and mlive, detnews, etc trolls denigrated the class.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
Ya, who is being unreasonable?
February 5th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
This is information we all know already.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:55 AM ^
I like our class and I like the job the coaches did. I don't feel like I'm in the minority at all either.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:56 AM ^
Reason will prevail!
February 5th, 2015 at 11:56 AM ^
How about we pay attention to the people turning all chicken little so we know who is rational and who is not. Pin it. Anyone doubting Harbaugh is extremely misinformed and should do some light reading on his accomplisments to ease the tightness in their log extraction point.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:56 AM ^
If "unreasonable" is all that's happeneing, I'd call it a win and walk away.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^
I think most everyone is on board with this being a solid class considering the size and lack of time the coaching staff had to secure it.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 12:00 PM ^
Harbaugh was hired late in the game , you had to realize he had an uphill battle. The coaching staff took a while to take shape too. By that point I would assume that over 95% if not more of the players out there have made up their minds about what school they are attending.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^
Yeah, I think there is more panic, about this fictional recruiting panic than there is actually a panic about recruiting........ Stay Calm, there is a bear in the arena....Nooobody panic...
February 5th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^
This board has a habit of overreacting to reactions (real or imaginary).
February 5th, 2015 at 12:51 PM ^
That's just an incredibly mind-boggling, unbelievably mind-blowing statement. I'm absolutely floored and gob-smacked. Shocked, even.
February 5th, 2015 at 1:24 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
We had hoped that Harbaugh's name alone would be enough to pick up any recruit of their choosing. But as I stated in another post, we saw that relationships win in recruiting most of the time. We hoped that a guy like Iman Marshall would end up in the class. He even stated that Harbaugh's reputation was enough to get him to listen to what Michigan had to offer. But in the end, it was too little, too late. Harbaugh will kill it in 2016.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
Let's move on. We just got a QB grad transfer today. Things are still happening.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:30 PM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 1:41 PM ^
Are you sure he is a GRAD transfer? The article did not imply that.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
I don't know a single Michigan fan that doesn't think this was a really solid effort. Frankly, the MSU and few OSU fans I know think so, too.
I've seen many MSU/OSU trolls on the internet saying otherwise, but man, that's just the internet.
Harbaugh had 3 weeks, flipped kids from Iowa, Texas, UConn, Nebraska, and Northwestern, and beat FSU head-to-head for a Florida kid. He got last-second visits from a host of big time kids (Marshall, Smith) or kids already committed to other programs (Lockett, etc.), and tried to microwave 2 years of relationship-building in 3 weeks.
Honestly? We're lucky this was a small class and I can't wait to see how next year goes: on the field and in recruiting.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:12 PM ^
I didn't sense the panic you're referring to but admittedly was not on here that much. It was always going to be a small class and the big names were always a longshot to flip. JH and crew did well.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:14 PM ^
Great Rise Against album.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:36 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 12:14 PM ^
This post had the opposite of the intended effect. I wasn't worrying or being unreasonable. I simply thought we had a smaller class that was devoid of elite talent, completely reasonable for a transition year class. Yeah, it was a bummer to miss on a few elite guys in reach, but overall things look fine. What the class lacked in size and starz it made up for with high character kids (e.g., Higdon) and addressing the biggest roster needs (e.g., QB, DE, OL).
Then I read this list of pathetic excuses and I thought -- Man, if Michigan fans are bending over backwards to defend this recruiting class there must be something wrong with it.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:18 PM ^
Michigan has the 49th rated class on rivals. But just going by average rating without regard to total number of recruits, Michigan is 21st. sure, 21st isn't anything to crow about, but given the timing, I don't think anyone should be complaining. Nobody's actually complaining, right?
Next step: Win some football games. It's all schrodinger's cat until then...
Go Blue
February 5th, 2015 at 12:24 PM ^
Another classic straw man post in which the OP creates a fictionalized world lacking in reason, and then offers himself as the keyholder to a reasonable new world. Its really posts like this that are lacking in reason, and OPs like this that need to find reason elsewhere in their lives.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:38 PM ^
maybe in the other direction?? For the amount of time JH and staff had I can't really be anymore pleased.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:53 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 1:27 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^
Is there a way to balance out the recruiting classes in terms of size? Or are we going to have to have a tiny class every 4 years?
February 5th, 2015 at 2:01 PM ^
Good question! I was thinking next year Michigan would be reeling in 20-25 but see again it's projected to be in the high teens. So, when will Michigan be getting big classes again? Besides gray shirting, how do other programs always end up with 20+ recruiting classes?
Besides that curiosity, I'm ecstatic about what Harbaugh has done so far and can't wait for the staff to coach up the whole team! Go Blue!
February 5th, 2015 at 1:39 PM ^
Hoke showed he couldn't do anything with two great classes. I think we are going to be pretty good moving forward.
February 5th, 2015 at 1:47 PM ^
Pretty simple really. Would you rather have:
a) Harbaugh
Gentry
Wheatley
Wasington
Higdon
Jones
etc...
OR
b) Hoke
Marshall
Clark
Weber
Smith
etc...
I'm taking option 'a' and not thinking twice. Thanks.
February 5th, 2015 at 1:53 PM ^
I did not see much panic about the class other than some trolling from outsiders. The biggest cost of any coaching change is recruiting. I think all of us are happy to pay this cost in return for Harbaugh.
Overall I think we paid a fairly low cost as a result of the small class size and Harbuagh doing a good job of filling the small class with a mix of 3 and 4 star recruits. (Basically the transition cost us Mike Weber & Chris Clark)
The recruiting process with most top players last beyond one year. As a result we are still behind on 2016 relative to other programs with stable coaching staffs. So in some ways we are not yet done paying for the coaching change though the staff’s performance with this class gives me hope that the transition cost will remain low in 2016.
Overall I view this recruiting class as limiting the damage of a coaching change and by that measure we did a great job.
February 5th, 2015 at 2:08 PM ^
THANK YOU.
No idea why people are negging this, but this is an excellent refutation of the "the sky is falling" type posts we've been seeing here since yesterday (see, e.g., the post wondering how on earth we can hope to compete with UCLA).
February 5th, 2015 at 2:32 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 4:16 PM ^
You worry about the class when you lack a great coach. Now that we have a great coach, I can't wait to see what he does with all the current recruits and the current players who were at one time sought-after recruits. While we might not set the college football world on fire next year, I think we see a huge improvement across the board. Not worried at all.