Anyone else planning on riding off into the sunset after this season?

Submitted by NashvilleBLUE on February 6th, 2024 at 12:36 PM

Kind of a “feelings” post, and I’m sure it won’t be reciprocated by most, but wonder if there are any outliers like me feeling this way.

Ive been obsessed with Michigan football since I was a pre-teen and since 2015 I elevated my hyper-fandom into religion territory. Every year I feel guilty about how much time, thought and energy I put into Michigan Football, but man I couldn’t stop. Every loss ruined my week and every win elevated my mood like a drug. After losses I would say “why do I live and die by the outcome of a game played by 20 year old I’ve never met”.

Then, this year happened and I don’t think a sports year could be better. This was the highest of high. No championship or series of championships could top this one. On top of that, this might have been the last year of college football as we know it. Moving forward with NIL and super conferences, the game won’t be the same. Not saying those changes are bad or good, just that it will never be quite the same,

Lastly, with Jim leaving, the AD being in shambles and our rivals buying the best recruits in the world, expectations this year are not what they’ve been.

i will still be a fan, I’ll watch, I’ll rep the gear and still enjoy the wins, but I’m going to try to not die to the losses nor live by wins. I’m going to try to be a fan, not a fanatic.

am I alone?

Vasav

February 6th, 2024 at 1:37 PM ^

I think riding into the sunset is a bit dramatic - but the perfection of 2023, coupled with life changes of being a middle aged dad, definitely means I can foresee being less obsessed with every game and detail as I have been in the past.

I'll probably stay obsessed after wins. But the real question is, will I still watch every play of a loss? If I miss a loss live, will I still watch every snap in the aftermath? In general, win or lose, I foresee that answer could've been no just because of life. But going 15-0 does feel like the peak. Even if we go 16-0 next year, will be special, won't be the same though. Then again, after the game in 2021 I thought "it can't get any better than this."

Lakeyale13

February 6th, 2024 at 12:54 PM ^

Losing next year will be easier to digest.  Our legendary coach is gone. He has pilfered most of the coaching talent. Our new head coach most likely doesn’t have the connections or clout to attract top level coordinators.  Coach Moore is also left with the cupboard being quite bare, especially at QB. This is not in any way shape or form a Day / Urban transition.  
 

My expectations just need to match reality. Probably going to be a season that doesn’t resemble much of the last three. 

Richard75

February 6th, 2024 at 2:57 PM ^

Plus the schedule is absolutely brutal

Is it?

The Athletic put out a 2024 top 25 recently. U-M has three opponents on it. Granted, those three are in the top 5. But two of those games are at home. (FWIW, Ohio State has four opponents from that top 25.)

People are having it both ways when they say U-M has an absolutely brutal schedule. They’re no doubt counting USC and Washington, but those teams were heavily reliant on QBs who are no longer there.

bluebyyou

February 6th, 2024 at 2:51 PM ^

I think you hit the magic button with the word "expectations,"  Four years ago, no one would have expected we would go 40-3 over the next three years, beat OSU three times, win the B1G three times and the National Championship. In terms of Michigan fandom, that's like marrying the homecoming queen on a perfect June day and hearing you won the largest lottery in history all rolled into one. 

It simply can't be any better than that...ever again.  We could match that but it would likely be impossible to beat.

We got incredibly lucky.  A great coach, great players who stayed together through thick and thin, many of whom played way above their recruiting rankings and were part of a group that came on-board before NIL at a University bucking the trend of spending money to get the best talent.

The coaches are largely gone, many of the superstars are gone and our schedule next year is going to be difficult. I'm OK with that.  I'm OK with what happens next.

The bottom line for me is in 2023 - 2024 we climbed Everest and came back down intact.  I was at the National Championship game with one of my Michigan alumni sons.  The last three years might be equaled but will never be exceeded.  My son and I have memories which will last a lifetime and I feel truly fortunate to have been a part of being a Michigan fan when we were the very best.

Angry-Dad

February 6th, 2024 at 3:52 PM ^

alum96

February 6th, 2024 at 1:35 PM ^

Also easy to say when our pets heads are falling off.  If we were bringing back what Georgia has or what OSU is buying hand over fist, hell even Oregon buying two QBs with a good coach, our excitement would be through the roof. 

We are in a weird period - the best thing for Michigan is SEC B10 duopoly (fuck the NCAA) agreeing to an annual salary cap.  Because right now things are a bit outrageous with every player on your roster an annual free agent. 

bluebyyou

February 6th, 2024 at 3:12 PM ^

Even with a salary cap, would a player not be able to earn money outside of his "employment" as a student-athlete? 

As an example, we see Pat Mahomes and Kelce in all sorts of ads these days for which they are handsomely compensated.  I simply can't envision players voting to exclude outside income.

Angry-Dad

February 6th, 2024 at 3:47 PM ^

This was my thought also.  If they go 7-5 and keep recruiting in the high teens for the 2025 class and can't clean up the NIL issues and can't figure out a way to deal with transfer credits they are in danger of sliding out of the top quarter of the Big Ten.

Ohio State, Oregon, USC, Washington, Penn St.  Those teams are not going anywhere and seem to be further ahead on NIL and underclassmen portal players.  Grad transfers are great, but getting some 5 star guys that did not track for one reason or another at their original school would be nice. 

Also, good luck but my guess you will be right back in it.  We all will, it's what we do and we can not stop.

Go Blue!

BlueCE

February 6th, 2024 at 12:39 PM ^

Yep, feeling the same. Glad we had the year we had, but not loving the direction of college sports in general and I definitely feel a lot of the allure dissipating. 

Bo Harbaugh

February 6th, 2024 at 2:24 PM ^

With you, and stated this a few times.

So happy we finished off the era of at least psuedo-amateur collegiate athletics with the title. 

My, "Just want to see one National Title in my lifetime" dream has been met, and the rest can be enjoyed and followed but not really stressed over.

2006 and 2016 were complete heartbreakers.  Beating OSU and winning the B1G the prior 2 years were incredible, but this past year was the ultimate, 15-0, and everything surrounding the program.  It was a movie, will be documentary worthy, and the ultimate dream season of dream seasons all things considered. 

Given Harbaugh, signgate, lat year of era of BCS / 4 team playoff, Zinter injury, northern team winning it all, etc, etc...it will probably go down as one of the most memorable seasons in CFB history, and probably the most significant in modern CFB history.  

In the end, it was Michigan again, Michigan.  Just hope the espn 30 for 30 does a good job and isn't a hit job.

jmstranger

February 6th, 2024 at 12:40 PM ^

I’m still going to be somewhat invested but I feel like you should get a multi year grace period after winning a championship. The massive team turnover is naturally going to lead to a backslide in on-field performance and rivals chirping away. I can’t be overly bothered while there’s such a massively uneven field that teams are playing on though. 

Blau

February 6th, 2024 at 4:06 PM ^

I think a better question to ask is "Are you willing to embrace the changes?" in terms of the future of CFB.

Before NIL was a thing, most CFB fans agreed players should receive some sort of payment or funding for what they bring to the university and community. Now that it's happening, most folks are seeing the residual effects of paying players in the public domain. We can call the players student-athletes, and they still are, but as Dartmouth delineated just recently, they are also employees to some degree. I never really cared if players got their degree or not but that's almost a moot point going forward.

As with a lot of professional sports, which CFB is becoming more so every day, I figure I'll tune in for the first week of the season, the rivalry games, and the playoffs as I still love football whether players get paid or not. But similar to the OP, the growing disparities amongst the elite haves and have-nots along with players making $100k+ with no contractual obligations and the price of tickets or app subscriptions has cast some doubt into my fandom. It's also made me realize it's ok to be a "casual fan" instead of a "diehard fan". I'm not an alumni of UM and the shit-talking by other fans stopped bothering me a long time ago. I'll be fine, you'll be fine, Michigan will be fine, but when the on field results start to reflect some of these changes, I don't think there's a pathway back.

Dix

February 6th, 2024 at 12:42 PM ^

I'm in the 'now I can die happy' camp. The past 20+ years felt like Tolkein-esque epic quest to slay a dragon, and if the endeavor ultimately consumes the hero of the story in the process, so be it. The dragon has been slain.

 

Michigan football will still be fun. Losses won't be the season-ruining event they used to be with the new playoff system, so the live-and-die nature of every game will be diminished. I think that's a good thing. Now that we've got this title under our belts, we can hopefully enjoy the process going forward rather than suffer an obsess over it. We all needed this one. We went through a lot on the way to getting it. But we got it, so all that difficult time can be stuffed in a locker and we move on. 

treetown

February 6th, 2024 at 4:58 PM ^

That is a great way to put it.

The last game was won. The great team and its leaders dispersed back to their homes, or were so affected that they journeyed beyond to the western isles and now reside in myth.

But like in the Tolkien trilogy, The Shire was changed as well, and it marked the end of an era; an end of a magical time, and the beginning of a more mundane age of man. Now we maybe seeing the same thing with college football - run like a feeder league for the NFL.

pdgoblue25

February 6th, 2024 at 12:42 PM ^

College football will be so strange going forward with the playoff/transfers/super conferences.  I think I'm with you, just makes me even happier about this past season.

LSA Aught One

February 6th, 2024 at 12:44 PM ^

Here's the thing.  I tell myself, nearly every year, that I am going to do the same.  Then, early August arrives and I hear Michigan has a Heisman-level dude at X position.  By the time the season begins, I am absorbing all the information I can find about the team.  Some people love golf, some people fish.  My hobby is Michigan Football.  Do I play football? No.  Do I love to watch it? Yes.  Am I sad when I can't watch it? Yes.  By June am I counting down the days until kickoff? Absolutely.  

What I suggest is to find an off-season hobby on which to concentrate until you can get back into football.  Downtown Nashville has a place called Make Nashville (part of the Maker Space group) where you can take classes on woodworking, welding, pottery, etc.  The place is open 24/7 and you have a keyfob so you can access any of the tools once you've been trained.  I love it because I can disconnect from the world and have a great time.  By the time you really get into it, Michigan will be playing their first game of the season.  

I live in Franklin if you have questions or just need someone with whom to BS about Michigan football.

Gulogulo37

February 6th, 2024 at 1:29 PM ^

If Hoke had been given another year, I was really thinking about not watching games the next year or at least 0 effort to do so. I was in Korea so watching games means being sleep deprived. I had a buddy there who said he was a big college basketball fan and then one year just decided to stop spending his time on it. Seemed like a good idea at the time. Harbaugh ended that though.

BleedinBlue

February 6th, 2024 at 12:45 PM ^

Personally...I'm kind of fed up with the posts from people that are basking in the glow of a Championship that feel like whatever happens for the next couple years...is peachy because we just won a natty.

 

Alabama...OSU....Georgia.... these high profile programs are not this way. Alabama wins a national title and gears up the following year to win another. Their fanbase expects to create a culture of winning and competing for the National Championship year in and year out. So why shouldn't we expect to do the same?

MGoRhinoAZ

February 6th, 2024 at 1:24 PM ^

Don't be so sure about that. They are Bama! They reload, not rebuild... even with a new coach, etc. Delusional this year? Maybe, but don't expect them to lose confidence in their team overnight.

Just like I expect us, even with a new coaches, unproven QB, etc., along with know stout defense to beat OSU and be a player in the CFP. Delusional this year? Maybe...

Hope springs eternal - and as fellow old guy, surely you know this.

Denarded

February 6th, 2024 at 1:17 PM ^

When Michigan has academic standards, portal admissions and NIL like those schools then you absolutely should have those expectations. 
 

In reality, what Michigan and Harbaugh just accomplished the last 3 years, especially this year, is unparalleled going off the program’s past 20-25 year history. 
 

It’s pretty reasonable until the University makes drastic changes (not holding my breath) most years won’t be like 2021-2023. 
 

You can’t act like Stanford/Northwestern and expect results like Georgia. It doesn’t work that way. 

itauditbill

February 6th, 2024 at 1:30 PM ^

This times 1 million! We had an alignment which is unprecedented, and it is probably what sticks in the craw of so many people and why those people seek to find "reasons" for it, rather than just a bunch of really great dudes where things aligned for them. The coming years will not necessarily have that alignment, especially when one takes into account Michigan's reluctance to fully embrace NIL. 

Denard's Pro Career

February 6th, 2024 at 1:25 PM ^

I think that's an easy one to answer. We shouldn't expect the same because Warde Manual's out here talking about "transformational, not transactional." We had a great team this year, lost a bunch of talent (not to mention coaches), and haven't been playing the game you need to play to have another championship level team coming off the bench. It would be ridiculous for us to expect some repeat year coming up.

Of course, the larger question is--why won't Michigan play the money game we'd need to if we wanted to be Bama? And honestly, for me, I'm glad we don't. Maybe we'd be able to make it work, but plenty of teams play that game and lose anyway (A&M, Ole Miss, Tennessee), and it's not our identity. I think our goals should be 1. beat osu, 2. find a way to maintain credibility as an educational institution in the midst of the SEC-zation of college football. If we can do those two things, I couldn't care less about a national championship.

rice4114

February 6th, 2024 at 1:57 PM ^

Here is the argument:

"Do we want to be Texas A and M and just toss huge wads of cash at recruits?"

Here is the the real discussion:

"If our coaches identify key recruits with the right personality and work ethic to fit our program AND they are a high level recruit CAN we put together a competitive package for them when they sign?"

Our coaches all of a sudden wont be able to find the right fit guys suddenly because we are competitive financially? We arent going after Miami and A and M guys we would be going after our guys.

To not be competitive is a terrible idea. 

GoBlue1530

February 6th, 2024 at 1:29 PM ^

Because we don't have the built in advantages in talent that the south has, and we don't play the NIL game?

OSU for all those expectations aren't much different than Michigan national titles wise. Michigan has won 74% of their games since Bo began coaching. Might just be better to enjoy it and realize Michigan is a mountaintop team once every 20 years or so? Quite honestly would be thrilled with 2 or 3 more titles in my lifetime as someone in their late 20s.