October 10th, 2022 at 9:28 AM ^
I don’t think we’re going to hear any details just yet. He did spend the night at the hospital in Bloomington on Saturday. And he talked to Harbaugh on the phone at halftime…those sound like good signs to me.
October 10th, 2022 at 9:42 AM ^
October 10th, 2022 at 9:51 AM ^
HIPAA binds actual medical providers and employees thereof. private individuals are exempt and can share (or not) as they wish.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:14 AM ^
100% correct. However, anyone directly employed by the University, who is a medical provider, might be constrained. It would be something for experts to sort out if the HIPAA rules applied to Michigan personnel since I am certain there were Michigan medical professionals that were engaged in the incident.
Beyond the 'Can they?' question, is "does Mike Hart want them to?" An event like that can be a massive blow to ones worldview and may take some real time to know anything more concrete than "He is awake and talking."
I really want coach Hart to be ok and am good with my 'need to know' being well down the list of concerns.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:31 AM ^
a link for the really curious about HIPAA policies: https://www.hipaajournal.com/sue-for-hipaa-violation/
October 10th, 2022 at 9:52 AM ^
I’m pretty sure most people want to know how he’s doing, will he be able to return to coaching soon, etc and not Mike Hart’s actual medical history and/or medical conditions. Bravo in getting a HIPAA reference in by the second reply though, impressive even for the MGoBoard.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:09 AM ^
This is a sensitive matter in that Harbaugh cannot say anything in depth about Hart’s condition or treatment without Mike’s OK.
i think when the cause and treatment for this incident is known, Coach Hart will discuss it.
October 10th, 2022 at 11:19 AM ^
We all understand it is a sensitive matter, but not because HIPAA prevents Harbaugh from saying something. It clearly does not.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:23 AM ^
I am an alleged doctor. If he had a seizure for the first time, then there is either utter badness, like a tumor, correctible badness, like an issue of a medication reaction (as in perhaps he recently started a new medicine), issue of blood chemistry, infection, etc., or, lastly, new-onset primary epilepsy or another epileptiform condition. As everyone knows, epilepsy is generally highly treatable and people lead fully normal lives. Correctable issues like medication reaction, infection, are easy to definitively fix and will tend to be one-time events. Glioblastomas, one of the most untreatable forms of cancer, are not. This would already be known as he certainly received an MRI of the brain. Given his age, the odds highly favor something that is quickly correctable, but there is an outside chance of true badness. No matter what, he'll be under orders to get some rest. Here's hoping for the best.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:45 AM ^
Whatever it is, my money is on Mike Hart.
October 11th, 2022 at 1:42 PM ^
Good summary.
I would be a little less confident it's nothing major, although I obviously hope that that is the case.
As you point out, it will be possible to check for a glio, etc. quickly with an MRI so hopefully they have moved on to something benign (med reaction and others) that they corrected or something more challenging that can be treated effectively.
October 10th, 2022 at 9:38 AM ^
It can take 48 hours or more to run and analyze the evaluative tests, e.g., MRI, EEG etc. Wouldn't expect anything definitive until they're complete. I would like to know whether he's come home yet, however.
October 10th, 2022 at 9:43 AM ^
Maybe for you or me it would take two days, but running a CAT scan and an MRI for somebody who has just had a significant seizure can be done and interpreted very quickly. Ditto for most bloodwork.
October 10th, 2022 at 9:48 AM ^
Yep. Metabolic testing and MRI would be done and resulted within 2 hours of arriving in ED, for pretty much everyone. EEG probably the next day due to EEG technician availability, but EEG not that important for a witnessed seizure.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:00 AM ^
This assumes you actually have clinical staff to do the work.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:12 AM ^
Just gotta love the MGo Medical team. All comments so spot-on including the realism of lacking clinical staff.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:49 AM ^
Pretty sure the Univ Hosp has the staff at all times and that a visiting coach collapsing on the sideline got VIP treatment and was moved to the front of the line. There would have been residents on call and an attending, and they certainly gave preliminary reads to everything. It may be a day or two for the full EEG read, but they certainly reviewed immediately, as getting some feedback quickly so that you know what further studies are indicated is time-sensitive with loss of consciousness.
October 10th, 2022 at 11:32 AM ^
Just lucky this wasn't at Purdue.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:29 AM ^
Whatever it is, is likely completely known at this point, and if there was an MRI finding it was known within hours of completing the study. If there are no findings, which would be good, meaning no specific obvious badness, then there may be a continued work-up. Since they didn't show what happened (obviously they should not have) it's difficult for sure to know if it was a seizure, v. syncope. Often times these things happen quickly and there's lots of commotion and people clustering in to help and everyone assumes it's a seizure because that's what laypeople describe, and it's actually an arrhythmia or some other cardiac cause. They've certainly looked for that as well, and done extensive heart monitoring, looked at his carotid arteries for thromboses, etc.
October 10th, 2022 at 12:49 PM ^
A treatable arrythmia...from your lips to God's ears.
I still have my fingers crossed that it is something minor or completely treatable. I had a discussion with my wife, a radiologist, as they were treating Coach Hart, and she enumerated a long list of what could have caused a seizure or whatever it was they were emergently treating him for. Hart, as we all know, carried a huge load as Michigan's premiere RB for four years and then spent time in the pros.
I wish Coach Hart well and hope that what happened Saturday is a minor hiccup in a long and successful career.
October 10th, 2022 at 9:40 AM ^
Jimmy is not exactly forthcoming on the health of his players and this is a coach - arguably even less right for the public to know.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:15 AM ^
Actually I think it swings the other way. He's tight lipped about player health for competitive advantage reasons (similar to not naming starters before the first game in past seasons). There's really no competitive advantage to be had here, and this has gotten massive national coverage.
October 10th, 2022 at 9:40 AM ^
I've been wondering the same. All the links are two days old and just talk about the event. Hopeful that he's back on his feet soon. Maybe we'll see him up in the booth rather than sidelines this Saturday.
October 10th, 2022 at 9:45 AM ^
From the limited experience I have with seizures (brother had 2, and a family friend's son has some seizures), I think it's usually rest and meds and then kind of ease back into life and see if you can find a trigger (stress, etc).
My guess is Hart probably just takes some time off, eases back into his role (maybe at practices, not at game time), etc and they just go from there.
He may find a med that works and be totally fine, or he may end up like Jerry Kill where a certain level of stress can trigger one. I wouldn't expect anyone to have that kind of info yet, and as other said it would be up to Hart if he wanted to share that info or not.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:03 AM ^
Serious Question: Since Michigan has Fred Jackson on staff, can he temporarily step into the RB coach's role until Mike is back? Or does that break the # of coaches rule?
October 10th, 2022 at 10:25 AM ^
I'd have to think that it's an active coach thing; there's no logical reason that a team should be handicapped if one of the coaches have to take a leave of absence (though the NCAA is often illogical).
And TBH, even if it's technically prohibited, this seems like one of the more likely areas we'd we willing to push boundaries. It sounds like, nation-wide, teams push the boundaries with their analysts providing actual coaching. Just last year for example, when defensive analyst Ryan Osborn left to take an assistant role with the Ravens, the way people talked about his work with the DEs made it sound like he was doing more than just hands-off support work...
October 10th, 2022 at 11:33 AM ^
Keep Fred Jackson away from these running backs!!!
October 10th, 2022 at 12:18 PM ^
Harbaugh answered the question during his press conference, they received a waiver for Fred Jackson to coach until Mike is back.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:05 AM ^
New Update per Twitter: Back in Ann Arbor and things are progressing positively. He looks forward to re-joining the team soon.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:08 AM ^
From a Facebook post he is back in Ann Arbor.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:30 AM ^
I hear he is back in Ann Arbor and doing well but no update other than that and likely won’t get one.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:42 AM ^
https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Mike-Hart-update-Michiga…
According to this report, he says he is recovering, hopes to rejoin the team soon and will be heading to Ann Arbor soon.
October 10th, 2022 at 10:50 AM ^
One of my daughters has seizure disorder. There are plenty of aspects of human anatomy we still have a lot to learn about, including the brain. My daughter seems to have outgrown her disorder, but they were never able to pinpoint a trigger for her and just used medication to reduce the likelihood of seizures.