All time win % up for grabs in 2016

With Will Fuller and CJ Prosise both going to the draft the majority (maybe?) of their offensive production is gone. 6-6 is at least something we can hope for I think.

So when Michigan goes 15-0, how many losses does ND need?

I think it is more likely that we overtake them over the next 5 years by having 1-2 more wins a year than ND each year.

O LET DO IT

I'm excited about 1,000 wins. That's a little less than a decade away!

in due time, in due time

What MSU and OSU lose has been the pretty extensively covered, but what does ND lose?

How far away are we?

High on my Bucket List (65 in April) I figure it's 99% likely to occur but just in case I have decided to refrain from running with scissors.

and lose to one of the service academies, I don't care too much about the rest of their schedule.  Those chicken shits care so much about the service academies, but they stopped playing Air Force yearly once they were beaten in 1997 and every game in the early-mid 2000 were close, with one game being a blowout loss at home.

If BK leaves for the NFL, I could definitely see 6-6.

Notre Dame has a seriously cushy schedule except for Stanford and USC.

"The only reason that U-M is the winningest team is because they played 30 games a year back in the thirties." -- Ed Cunningham

I don't see many good teams on their schedule. A bad Texas team, rebuilding MSU team, and Stanford/USC.

It was 2004 that we overtook them for highest winning %. We had the opportunity to do it in a head to head game (which would have been awesome) but we ended up losing to a shitty Irish squad in South Bend 28-20. After that game, we kept winning and they kept losing and we got the record within a couple weeks anyway. It was listed on the scoreboard as part of the program's historical accomplishments at Braylonfest, which I was at. I was disappointed at how well Notre Dame's season went this year, especially after they lost their QB in game two. I figured they would have their usual second half season slump and finish with 5 or 6 losses as usual. If they can stay this relevant (which I never hope for) then I have the feeling the winning % record will be something we continue to trade back and forth.

I really think they will be solid as long as Brian Kelly is there. They are basically a watered down Ohio State. They'll get good recruiting classes. They'll have an effective spread offense that can move the ball in the air but can also bowl over a lot of teams with their run game -- due to OL talent and scheme. The difference is that BK hasn't shown the ability to field a good/great defense, and Urban has been able to.

It will probably happen in 2017 or 2018.  Unless Kelly leaves for the NFL I don't see them going 6-6 with that cupcake ACC Schedule.  They probably go 9-3 maybe 10-2 depending on how Texas is next season.  I see them losing to Stanford, and USC.  I hope that they pound MSU into the ground.  One of the few times I enjoy rooting for ND.

If ties are not counted as wins at all the spacing is even narrower. .7169 to .7159. Ties don't count. If we go 12-2 and they go 10-3 we take them .71745 to .71744. Those are both possible.

based on the majority of the posts in this thread. Obviously Kelly has done a good job at ND, being ther first coach since Holtz who has established himself at a level indicative of keeping the job as long as he wants it. The only realistic possibility I see of him losing the job for cause would be if he does actually pull a "Woody Hayes" something he's appeared damn close to committing on more than just a few occasions.

It was this season though that it became obvious he has accumulated enough quality depth throughout the roster that they took the step from from rebuilding to simply reloading. Losing their first team qb and rb in the first game is a hit few teams are deep enough to overcome. Those at no. 2 quickly proved there was not a great deal of separation in talent level among their two deep. Then when forced to find no. 3 at the RB position, it went from being deep to being pretty damn impressive. Kelly has proven though he's among the best at realizing maximum athletic ability of his players, and while at CMU successfully replaced his injured first team qb with a starting db without a major drop off in performance.

So if, and when we do overtake ND, imo it will be a rather significant accomplishment rather than  a given that many of the posts seem to indicate. I too think it will happen but based more on the average duration of successful UM coaches as compared to those enjoying similar success at ND. It was during the mid-70s when it appeared ND might overtake us in all-time wins. I believe the major reason this was not realized is that Bo was only in his 6th or 7th year of a very successful and long stint as the head man. I think during that same period ND had, at minimum, four different HCs during that same period. .

This shouldn't come as a shock, but the wikipedia page referenced by Dual Threat has incorrect info.  According to the official NCAA records (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2015/fbs.pdf) Notre Dame's all-time record after the 2014 season was 882-310-42 (0.73177).  ND did not go 17-3 this year; they went 10-3.  Hence, their actual record after 2015 is 892-313-42 (ie 7 fewer wins than Wikipedia says), which means that U-M is closer than everyone in this thread is assuming.

If U-M goes 15-0, and ND goes 10-3, then U-M will pass ND.

 

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