All refs identified for remaining MBB tourney games

Submitted by MgoHillbilly on
This info is from CBS sports. The number in parentheses is the total number of final four and championship games reffed to date including this year. Glad to see a few omissions. Jeff Anderson (2) Roger Ayers (2) Keith Kimble (1) Kipp Kissinger (1) Randy McCall (5) Terry Oglesby (1) Mike Roberts (1) Doug Sirmons (5) Michael Stephens (6) Terry Wymer (4) https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/2018-ncaa-tournament-…

Chalky White

March 26th, 2018 at 6:42 PM ^

Which refs don't we want? I figure we want any ref who attended Catholic school and was taught by nuns. Speaking from experience, there is no way that guy could be against us.

Yost Ghost

March 27th, 2018 at 9:46 AM ^

Here's another one for 2017:

    Official        Rating
 1  Roger Ayers      50.8
 2  Mike Eades       50.4
 3  John Higgins     48.1
 4  Terry Wymer      46.7
 5  Ted Valentine    45.7
 6  Jeffrey Anderson 45.6
 7  Jamie Luckie     44.5
 8  Keith Kimble     44.3
 9  Michael Stephens 43.1
10  Brian Dorsey     43.0
11  Bo Boroski       42.6
12  Doug Sirmons     42.2
13  Steve Olson      42.1
14  Verne Harris     41.7
15  Pat Adams        41.5
16  DJ Carstensen    40.8
17  Pat Driscoll     40.5
18  John Gaffney     40.4
19  Kipp Kissinger   40.4
20  Ray Natili       40.3

https://kenpom.com/blog/roger-ayers-is-the-best-ref/

 

CR

March 26th, 2018 at 10:03 PM ^

I had some questions about Wymer from the past, but I think he has given us fair games in the past 3 years. I think we are something like 7-7 against real competition in games he has called. in 2015-18.We had him in the round of 32 this year and I thought he was very good.

We also get Oglesby routinely and I think he is a very solid ref. Always happy to see him.

Reffing BB is hard and it is impossible not to make mistakes, but I think Oglesby is very good and Wymer---I have come to believe has no agenda, is not putting his finger on the scales.

umalum95

March 26th, 2018 at 6:56 PM ^

Kimble & McCall officiated the FSU game on Saturday. I thought that game was poorly officiated and that Keith Kimble, in particular, made several questionable calls that went against Michigan. I made a mental note at the time that I hoped he would not officiate another one of our games this year.

mbrummer

March 26th, 2018 at 7:07 PM ^

Wymer did the Houston game.  I thought he actually was keeping the game in check while the other 2 whistled everything against us.

He's pretty horrible, maybe because he gets paired with Valentine consistently as Big 10's #1 crew.

charblue.

March 26th, 2018 at 7:53 PM ^

eliminated from Final Four consideration by the crew he worked with the first game of the tournament that apparently missed a call. Higgins worked the championship game in 2013 between Michigan and Louisville.

This is a guy who regularly works the Final Four. And I don't have a clue why. He didn't make the foul call on Burke on his clean block, but he seems to lack great mechanics. So, I guess its just his game management skills that moves him forward.

By the way, that is why Wymer advances. At this level, you are judged on your ability to manage the game. With millions watching and so much on the line, making the right call is important, being able to handle everything that goes with it, is bigger.

Eng1980

March 26th, 2018 at 7:56 PM ^

I thought one reason we did well against Texas A&M was that the referees called a loose game.  I think they could have called more fouls both ways and that might have given A&M a chance to breathe and even put Mo on the bench even thought I didn't see anything that could have been called on Mo. 

Does anyone know better?  I don't claim to be terribly knowledgable regarding the officials.

I do so blinkin' hope that the refs don't give us reason to complain.

 

 

JamieH

March 26th, 2018 at 8:23 PM ^

IMO We do well in games that are called somewhat loosely, but not in games where outright mugging is allowed. 

In games where ticky-tack BS is called (see our first Big Ten Tourney game), we get importaint people like Mo into foul trouble too easily.  In games where outright mugging is allowed (see the 2013 NCAA title game), our lack of big bodies causes us trouble.  I remember one play where McGary finally got fed up and actually body-checked a guy several feet because he was physically backing him down and there was still no call.  Those guys were ridiculously bad--possibly the worst I've ever seen. 

The "perfect" officiating for us IMO is a crew that lets the teams play and ignores ticky-tack crap, but calls anything overtly physical. 

charblue.

March 26th, 2018 at 8:47 PM ^

starts, there is a point of emphasis in what officials are expected to call. I can tell say without equivocation that restriction of movement is the POE of this tournament. That means calling illegal picks that are either moving or not set. This is a reflection of POE from the season's start. The other POE is requiring the defender on a block-charge call to cross all t's and dot all i's, and then maybe it will be called a charge.

The fact of the matter is, the block/charge call is now going to the offense not the defense.

Here is what not being called strictly:  basket interference, either as goal tending or not. I was appalled at the lack of calls for goal tending on TAMU on Thursday night. At least three calls were allowed to stand that should have been reviewed as likely basket interference. If the ball is in the cylinder, you can't touch it as an offensive or defensive player. This seemed to be regularly ignored in that game.