After a crappy loss, some hope for next year's B-ball team

Submitted by Ahriman on

Losses like this suck bad, but I came across this article that might provide some hope for next year's team. Obviously, this year isn't done yet, but Zach Shaw at 247 wrote an article about how well Austin Davis (redshirt) and Charles Matthews (transfer) are playing in practice.

Coach B said: "I hate practice some days. I hate it when Austin and Charles are getting baskets on us or defending us really well," Beilein said. "But I love it when I just think about the future with those two guys. It's really going to be helpful."

If Wagner and D.J. come back, next year's team should have a lot of talent (freshman Poole, Livers & Brooks too) and should do well. Just thought this might help some on the board cope with the NW loss.

http://michigan.247sports.com/Article/In-redshirt-season-Austin-Davis-wowing-Beilein-Michigan-51544367

Ty Butterfield

March 1st, 2017 at 9:49 PM ^

Since we can't have nice things I am already prepared for Wagner to leave after this season. Sure hope I am wrong.

Hotel Putingrad

March 1st, 2017 at 9:56 PM ^

Simpson looks much more comfortable. Matthews can play (we think). But Wagner will bolt for pro ball in Germany, and we'll be left with the Teske-Davis-Wilson trifecta to defend last-minute inbound plays...Good luck with that.

But, hey, we can shoot. Sometimes.

ThadMattasagoblin

March 1st, 2017 at 10:00 PM ^

I think it's crazy to talk about firing Beilein at this point with the team playing much better. However, if we are anything less than a 5 seed in the NCAA tournament next year with the talent we'll have, then you can gripe.

Blueblood2991

March 1st, 2017 at 10:02 PM ^

Awesome! Never in the history of Michigan athletics have practice reports ever been wrong. Can't wait to see O'korn under center for his 2nd season as a starter.

adcough

March 1st, 2017 at 10:10 PM ^

Not sold on JB for reasons that have been discussed extensively. Even if they get in doubtful they last the first weekend. But expectations around here have been lowered.

ThadMattasagoblin

March 1st, 2017 at 10:15 PM ^

JB is not without blame for how poorly we played in January and December but you got guys like Matta that are going to the NIT and there's no one really out there that would be an upgrade. If Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan were on the market that would be an upgrade but you'd be forced to go after Archie Miller or someone with a huge buyout for JB. not worth it 

adcough

March 1st, 2017 at 10:10 PM ^

Not sold on JB for reasons that have been discussed extensively. Even if they get in doubtful they last the first weekend. But expectations around here have been lowered.

leftrare

March 1st, 2017 at 10:14 PM ^

I hate losses but there are crappy losses and just disappointing losses and this was definitely not the former. NU is a damn good tournament-bound team fighting for their lives at home. UM lost to them at the buzzer. Nothing crappy about This loss.

funkywolve

March 1st, 2017 at 11:26 PM ^

there's a gaping hole in the line up when they need to bring a big man into the game for either Wilson or Wagner.  It's Donnal's job by default.  If Davis was tearing it up in practice so much, we would have seen him on the floor by now.

Leonhall

March 2nd, 2017 at 7:11 PM ^

Isn't very good imo. Not sure why he wasn't redshirted; i HOPE Davis is better than him. Plus no reason to blow his RS now. I doubt he's that good where he makes us a title contender! Just because he isn't playing doesn't mean he couldn't be doing better.

rob f

March 1st, 2017 at 11:59 PM ^

Did you read the OP's linked 247Sports article? According to Beilein, the improvement for Davis has greatly accelerated since the first of the year when the game "slowed down" for him.

H.L. Racicot

March 1st, 2017 at 10:20 PM ^

Beilein giveth, and he taketh away. . .

 

No one will deny Beilein is a good at running a pretty offense. . .but unfortunately that's his whole bag of tricks.  It works well against non-conference cupcakes and most home games, where the players are comfortable shooting the ball.  But when you have to play on the road, he loses a fair chunk of games to inferior teams.  His teams often look soft and shaky on the road.  Why?  Because for some reason, he refuses to emphasize defense and rebounding--which travel much better than pretty offenses. 

 

It's always going to be a struggle to get into the NCAA tournament under the Beilein system, because, unless he stumbles into a loaded roster (the Burke years) he's never going to win enough road games to have anything but a .500 conference record (just like he did in the Big East).  Combine that .500 conference record with the 10-3 cupcake built non-conference record, and you're always sitting on the bubble.

 

There is one extra to the pretty offense, though. . .his style works quite well in neutral site tournaments, where there are no hostile crowds to rattle his shooters, and opponents have less time to prepare for his scheme. . .the disadvantage on defense is canceled out when he goes against non-conference teams that aren't familiar with his system. . .Beilein, if he can get into the tournament, will actually win at a higher rate, and give teams with better talent a tougher than expected game (Oklahoma 2009, Duke 2011 for example).  IF he can get his team into the Tournament, they will out-perform what their regular season showing suggests.

 

It's always going to be a frustrating formula with Beilein.  Next year won't be any different.

Erik_in_Dayton

March 1st, 2017 at 10:25 PM ^

This was one game - a last second loss on the road against a team playing maybe the most important game in school history. People were thrilled just a few days ago. Many good things can still happen this year. The negativity here is unnecessary...this is not a reference to the OP, to be clear.

LandryHD

March 1st, 2017 at 10:28 PM ^

If Wagner or DJ stay??? Where are they going? If your suggesting that theyre leaving to go to the next level then I want what youre smoking. I must be real good!

All I see is a square peg and that's Irvin. When hes gone, were good!

aiglick

March 1st, 2017 at 10:38 PM ^

We'll be fine this year and next year. Would feel better with a win at Nebraska but we're still in decent position. Glad to have gotten to see the team live in quite a while.

Blue Bunny Friday

March 1st, 2017 at 11:04 PM ^

I am starting a BANDWAGON! If you give a shit about the Michigan MBB team maybe you will jump on... I know this is a little late for a lot of you, but jump on board. This team is making the tournament and may make a run but! it will require an upset or two. IDK if this will happen. I do know that this team is giving 100% effort and trying to win games for the seniors. ALLLLLL ABOARD!