3 MSU football players and a staff member suspended in sexual assualt investigation

Submitted by Bambi on

Link: http://cabs.msu.edu/news/key-issues/issue-docs/football-investigation.h…

No names of players announced yet. Please keep it civil. Thoughts with the victim/victims.

[Ed-Ace: Locked the thread. The OP is fine. The sexual assault allegations are not a joking matter, however, and much of what was in the comments crossed that line. That is not rivalry trolling material. This thread also somehow descended into a political thing.]

Blue_In_Texas

February 9th, 2017 at 6:00 PM ^

Obviously this is awful. But its pretty funny that these fucking second-rate losers can't even recruit "character" anymore (as if they've ever had character)...

Where's the threat? The criminal justice system Mark. That's the fucking threat. 

Yooper

February 9th, 2017 at 6:01 PM ^

If you are a player who is set to enroll in the fall, especially one likely to redshirt, you might say oops I made a mistake.  Do the normal transfer rules apply or can he just go anywhere he wants if he never attended a class?

CalifExile

February 9th, 2017 at 7:01 PM ^

My understanding is until you enroll the NCAA doesn't count it. Seantrell Henderson signed a LOI with USC but got a release from them and enrolled at Miami, playing as a true freshman. The difficulty that MSU recruits face is the LOI is a binding contract, they would need a release from MSU before they can play at another FBS school.

GoBLUE_SemperFi

February 9th, 2017 at 6:08 PM ^

Normal transfer rules apply, once they sign the LOI.  This question came up when OSU waited to inform Weber that the coach recruiting him was leaving, until after he signed.  If he changed his mind, he'd have to sit out a year.

Mr Miggle

February 9th, 2017 at 6:57 PM ^

Eddie Vanderdoes won an appeal to the NCAA a few years ago. He signed an LOI to ND and decided he wanted to stay closer to home. I think they are going to be more lenient in the future too. It will depend on the player having a good reason and the school he's leaving cooperating. Weber had one, probably more so than any of the MSU commits.

One other difference from normal transfer rules is that the Big Ten rule regarding intra-conference transfers doesn't apply. So no loss of a year's eligibility.

Leaders And Best

February 9th, 2017 at 6:07 PM ^

The journalists that cover MSU athletics should just be embarrassed. MSU fans talk about the "Blue Wall" of Detroit media that is biased against them, but time and again, we see stories like this that they consistently miss while Lynn Henning writes this beauty of a column before Signing Day:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state-university/2017/01/29/msu-counting-character-more-than-stars-recruiting/97214294/

Speaking of Signing Day, how convenient of MSU to release this along with the Demetrius Cooper spitting story after the LOIs were signed.

 

MGOFishBio

February 9th, 2017 at 6:12 PM ^

Real Colors Maize Blue

 

This is bad news surrounding the program and I don't think Cooper faced any penalties after spitting on the ticket cop...Les miles to MSU 

Drew7

February 9th, 2017 at 6:14 PM ^

I do not believe signing a letter of intent is a legal binding contract to attend that school and play football...enrolling at the school is different...so i think those can be broken and probably will.

With regard to the school releasing names, protection falls under FERPA and does not allow them to release those names.  However a FOIA request with the local courts will happen very soon to have that information released.

If guilty, i hope they get the maximum punishment.

stephenrjking

February 9th, 2017 at 6:31 PM ^

I was interested in these rumors when it was "rumors of guys suspended" and little else, because it's football and we like seeing our rivals do poorly in it.

But I find this impossible to think of in any way other than tragedy. Nothing to enjoy here--there is a serious crime alleged and either there is a victim who has been hurt or there are guys whose names are being dragged through the mud unfairly. Or both. 

Honestly, I have no reason to dance on the graves of MSU here. We may gripe about other stuff they've sluffed on before (Michigan's hands aren't exactly pristine here after the way DB and Hoke handled the Gibbons situation) but if they are doing it right it strikes me as very classless to find an excuse not to credit them for it. 

Taking cheap shots is fine on rivalry terms, but this is not a rivalry issue. This is real life. And in real life if MSU is proactively investigating and addressing the situation they deserve full credit for that.

sadeto

February 9th, 2017 at 8:59 PM ^

I work for the firm that conducted the study that ultimately led to the 1 in 5 number floating around. It's not a valid estimate of the national rate of sexual assault among undergraduate students, as it's being used (even by our former president). It was a limited online survey of students at five colleges, the main purpose of which was to test a methodology for possibly obtaining broader national estimates. The "1 in 5" figure is a rounding up of the percentage of students who reported having experienced any improper sexual behavior during their years in school including unwanted kissing or other touching. I think the actual percentage was 17-18%, I can't recall. But it was never reported as a valid estimate beyond the very limited scope of the study, yet it quickly got a lot of traction. The five colleges weren't even selected using any kind of probabilistic method, it was more of a convenience sample of sites.

Rodriguesqe

February 9th, 2017 at 8:22 PM ^

Didn't Dantoni recently have opportunities of going to schools like Texas, USC, and USC?

Staying with MSU over those schools is like staying with your highschool sweetheart  when you have a chance at a supermodel, only to have the hs sweetheart turn into a meth addict, cheat on you, steal all your money, and give you herpes.

Moral of the story, things can always sour. Better to screw up at Texas than MSU.

FuzzDodger

February 9th, 2017 at 8:39 PM ^

This is not how I wanted to see this rumour to end. I wanted to see Sparty crumble from within. Even though they were doing a good job of that with how they played last year. Not something as vile as this.