3 MSU football players and a staff member suspended in sexual assualt investigation
Link: http://cabs.msu.edu/news/key-issues/issue-docs/football-investigation.h…
No names of players announced yet. Please keep it civil. Thoughts with the victim/victims.
[Ed-Ace: Locked the thread. The OP is fine. The sexual assault allegations are not a joking matter, however, and much of what was in the comments crossed that line. That is not rivalry trolling material. This thread also somehow descended into a political thing.]
February 9th, 2017 at 5:41 PM ^
This is just their knee jerk approach now that they can't lean back on the ELPD to cover for them and the Dr. Larry Nassar heat and pending three to nine millions (or more) dollars owed to complainants.
Spartans Will...face millions of dollars in law suits.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:45 PM ^
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February 9th, 2017 at 6:24 PM ^
Was it the Prosecutor (i.e., the elected official) or an Assistant Prosecutor? And what was the charge / outcome of such pants-about-ones'-ankles incident?
You've certainly piqued my curiousity.
February 9th, 2017 at 6:35 PM ^
February 9th, 2017 at 6:48 PM ^
Eight months and 11 days after he was arrested outside a coffee shop and charged with 15 prostitution-related crimes, former Ingham County Prosecuting Attorney Stuart Dunnings III will start serving his year-long jail sentence.
Fifteen seems like a ... lot of prostitution-related crimes. Along with cover-up activity trying to clear the madame's books, etc.
I thought that office was deeply flawed for a while (esp. the Appling / Payne sordidness, where Appling's police statement basically laid out every element of rape, yet ... no charges!). This is amazing. Not in a good way ... .
February 9th, 2017 at 11:35 PM ^
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February 9th, 2017 at 5:37 PM ^
I feel like I've heard this story 3-9 times
February 9th, 2017 at 5:57 PM ^
I feel like we'll probably hear it another 23-32 more.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:39 PM ^
February 9th, 2017 at 6:02 PM ^
That seems very unlikely to be related. This news plus the rumors preceding it must be making their fans awfully nervous.
February 9th, 2017 at 6:21 PM ^
February 9th, 2017 at 11:41 PM ^
but we didnt fill the stadium for the msu/um basketball game....
February 9th, 2017 at 7:11 PM ^
I think it was NBC College Football Talk that ran a story which said Lukusa left the team because he lost his passion for the game, so definitely unrelated, I would think. That it came out just before all this is really unfortunate timing all the same, and even a player losing interest under a staff has to unnerve a fan.
February 9th, 2017 at 9:22 PM ^
was voted off the team by his fellow players.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:42 PM ^
Somehow I think that these clowns somehow get off and are back on the team with a minor penalty - say a suspension of their annual game against the Little Sisters of the Poor. Hell, they are even likely to be made team captains.
Michigan State Prison and all that...
February 9th, 2017 at 5:44 PM ^
Not in the aftermath of their gymnastics fiasco. The players are gone if this is found to be true, and Dantonio may have coached his last game at MSU - legitimately.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:45 PM ^
I hope you are right
February 9th, 2017 at 6:54 PM ^
I may not like Dantonio as a guy and think he's a bit crusty, but he's a good coach, and that's good for the conference and it's good for UM to play and beat a good team.
Dantonio's days of beating RR & Hoke are over. We don't have to worry about that anymore. Once we've gotten by that, then it's better for MSU to be good for the conference, to give OSU good games, and for UM when they beat them.
February 9th, 2017 at 8:09 PM ^
For me, it's because he has a history of heavily recruiting guys with questionable character, and then taking minimal to no action when players commit crimes. Not to mention the general thuggery that their players seem to employ against us, with if not actively encouraged by Dantonio is pretty clearly not discouraged. He's a good coach (we think), but he doesn't seem like a particularly good person and, based on his recruiting and his approach to off-field behavior, doesn't seem to have a particularly good moral compass. Now, the fact that MSU may hire some talentless schlub to replace wouldn't necessarily make me sad, but it's more the "you reap what you sow" aspect that makes me pretty happy with the idea of him getting canned.
February 9th, 2017 at 11:44 PM ^
and get a john l. smith -type back in there... this is the best they have had it since the 50's...
February 9th, 2017 at 5:52 PM ^
I don't know what to think about this.
Looking past it being MSU, I think the ideal situation here (ideal being relative, I can't think of a better word) is that MSU is being very proactive and that the alleged assualt is more of the Grant Perry type than Baylor.
That being said, the fact that a staff member is involved is concerning. Specifically this quote:
"Separate from the criminal and Title IX investigations, the university administration is retaining an external law firm to conduct a thorough and independent investigation into football program staff members’ compliance with university policy in connection with the allegations."
It could end up being nothing, but bringing in an external law firm brings up PSU and Baylor thoughts. This could potentially have far reaching effects into MSU's program.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:56 PM ^
It's likely along the lines of the staff member being a mandatory reporter and not doing so. Baylor went further than that.
February 9th, 2017 at 7:17 PM ^
February 9th, 2017 at 7:30 PM ^
The Freeh Report? Written by a law firm (Freeh, Sporkin & Sullivan) based on a law firm investigation. Deservedly threw JoePa, PSU in general, and others under the bus.
The Baylor Report? Written by Pepper Hamilton, a respected law firm. Deservedly threw Briles, Ken Starr, and Baylor in general under the bus.
The approach of the university in hiring an outside firm to do the investigation is precisely to obtain an objective review. It is the best thing for the process, and the best thing for those members of the administration hiring the firm. The office of legal counsel, at least, can say that they did the right thing to really get to the bottom of things. It allows the administration outside of the football program to wash their hands of accusations of being complicit in the wrongdoing. While it's not nefarious (in fact, it's the right thing to do), it's also in the self-interest of those hiring the outside firm.
Furthermore, if the firm acts as a hired gun, the report will be disregarded and the reputation of the firm severely damaged. All for an engagement that does not pay that much. (Not that the fee for an engagement should influence the results, but it becomes especially untenable that a respected firm is acting like a hired gun for a six figure retainer.)
February 9th, 2017 at 5:57 PM ^
February 9th, 2017 at 6:09 PM ^
Dantonio after seeing this news.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:53 PM ^
With title nine I doubt it. With Dr Nasser being a problem this may be outside of MD's get out of jail card.
February 9th, 2017 at 9:17 PM ^
My initial reaction at seeing the post headline was the same as your cynical take, but no institution sends out a press release like that unless there is strong evidence that something very serious did happen involving MSU athletes.
February 9th, 2017 at 11:24 PM ^
In any time in the past I would agree with you, but letting all those things slide for so long has led to the shitstorm they find themselves in now. They will have to do something now if they want to avoid being the pariah Baylor has become.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:49 PM ^
Isn't that the exact same link as in the OP?
February 9th, 2017 at 6:14 PM ^
February 9th, 2017 at 6:24 PM ^
Well looks like RCMB is gonna get their wish in staff changes I guess?
February 9th, 2017 at 5:49 PM ^
I find it especially cringe worthy when a school well known (locally at least) for rape cover up issues a statement like that. It's just galling.
February 9th, 2017 at 6:29 PM ^
Michigan State University Police is investigating . . . ???
From the "Communications and Brand Strategy" group.
There is so much wrong with this before you even get to the, you konw, sexual assault.
February 9th, 2017 at 6:41 PM ^
February 9th, 2017 at 7:41 PM ^
statement is written correctly. The MSU Police as an insttution is singular. It could also be written using "are" to mean that members of the MSU Police are investigating.
"Communications and Brand Strategy"? I've got no defense for that.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:22 PM ^
Very Amero-centric of them to refer to an organization as a singular subject. They simply cannot speak the Queen's English.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:46 PM ^
This is just awful stuff. Curious to see how the facts come out (i.e., whether they reflect poorly on MSU or just the players involved, how strong the bases for the claims are, etc).
But given that a staff member is implicated, it sure leaves open the possibility of institutional involvement.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:48 PM ^
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February 9th, 2017 at 6:38 PM ^
February 9th, 2017 at 5:48 PM ^
That's gonna leave a mark.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:49 PM ^
February 9th, 2017 at 5:53 PM ^
Not a good look for Baylor North
February 9th, 2017 at 5:56 PM ^
I don't think so.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:56 PM ^