RPS Part Deux: Comparing MSU to Michigan Defending Spread or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb vs. Man Free

Submitted by steve sharik on

Caveat: Again, I just watched the beginning and end of the game, blah, blah, blah...

Note: I added a basic field background to help communicate vertical spacing.

Last week I wrote about how Michigan defended the spread in the IU game. Today I'll compare that to how MSU defended OSU Saturday.

First, let's revisit how Michigan aligned vs. a 2x2 H-back look:

 

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Notice how we are a man short in the box. If you're also noticing how it appears we have only 10 defenders on the field, it's b/c I tried to show the vertical spacing of the alignment; i.e., you can't see the Free Safety (FS) b/c he's 15-20 yards deep.

Now let's look at how MSU aligned vs. OSU: Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Similar to how Michigan aligned, MSU also had man over man on the Wide Receivers (WRs). However, MSU's safeties were no deeper than 8-10 yards, especially 8 on non-passing downs (what Bill Connelly of S&P refers to as "standard downs"). In doing this, MSU essentially has 8 in the box. If the safety over the H-back gets a run read from that H-back, the safety is down hill into his run fit.

In the comments of the previous diary, we discussed how playing no deep safeties is a recipe for spread adjustments like bubble screens and smoke screens; i.e. quick throws to the WRs. These are essentially wide running plays. Michigan has been using this tactic with great success the entire season--I'd guess that the success rate on these throws have been at least 90% for the Wolverines in 2015.

To take these away and remain sound defending the run, the defense needs OLBs and/or safeties aligned in such a way as to have the ability to defend both run and pass. Basically, the defense wants to have a man advantage against the number of eligible receivers on each side of the ball. In other words, if there are two receivers on a side, the defense needs to have three players in a position to defend them.

Again, if we look at how Michigan aligns, there is vulnerability to these throws. Image and video hosting by TinyPic

To have even 7 in the box, Michigan places a defender (in this case, the Will linebacker [WLB or simply W]) in a position to only play run and not be able to help on quick perimeter throws.

On the contrary, look at MSU's alignment: Image and video hosting by TinyPic

As you can see, the Spartans have safeties close enough to not be undermanned against inside running plays, and are also aligned so they have one more pass defender than the offense has eligible receivers to each side.

Again, I hope that Michigan does something different schematically against the Buckeyes than it did against the Hoosiers. If not, Ezekiel Elliot is going to have a Carlos Hyde type performance.

Comments

triguy616

November 23rd, 2015 at 10:54 AM ^

We run a lot of press man to emphasize the strength of our DBs. Looks like MSU is playing off the receivers quite a bit. Do we keep the safeties in to support the run game and place our faith in the corners to shut down the big pass?

steve sharik

November 23rd, 2015 at 11:38 AM ^

You simply can't play a deep middle-of-field safety against any option running attack (spread or conventional) where the QB is a runner. I would hope if we were to play, say, Navy in the Fiesta Bowl that we wouldn't play our base. Unless we want to get gashed, that is.

Additionally, you can play press man on the outside in the MSU look, and Dantonio has famously done this to great effect in previous seasons.

wolfman81

November 24th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^

This reminds me of a diary [edit:  Picture pages article] from 2012, when Michigan played Air Force.  (Right after the Alabama loss.)  I think that would be this article.  The gist of the article is that the deep safety (Kovacs in this case) has to be all-everything, including omniscient...and that does not go well.

(for those of you who do not remember, this was somehow NOT a touchdown).

mlax27

November 23rd, 2015 at 11:06 AM ^

One difference with Michigan though is that Peppers automatically outnumbers however many blockers you have out there, so screens are pretty much shut down. 

steve sharik

November 23rd, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^

In Deuce formation, there are twins to both sides, and if the ball is in the middle of the field, the WR screens are available to both sides. Barrett would just check it away from Peppers. Chuck Norris type jokes aside, Peppers can't play both sides of the field at the same time.

lastofthedogmen

November 23rd, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^

I'm less worried about our ability to cover OSU with our personnel than I am about our ability to handle tempo. I think our guys can handle their guys. BUT...My big worry is that OSU goes uptempo, which they did NOT against MSU, and we handle it the way we did against Indiana. Im hoping to god we come prepared for that. I'm also hoping for really crappy weather. No offense to those of you who'll be attending...

kyeblue

November 23rd, 2015 at 12:39 PM ^

they gave up 308 passing yard although limited Indiana's running game to 100+ yards. I am also not sure about how officiating went that game it could be a factor behind all the statistics. 

I hope that the weather is good for the game. We need the passing game much more than OSU. 

EGD

November 23rd, 2015 at 5:04 PM ^

IU is a bit of a different animal, with Sudfeld (accurate, veteran QB but not much of a runner) vs. Barrett (outstanding runner, okay passer).  If you bring guys forward to stop Howard, you leave yourself vulnerable to having Sudfeld carve you up.  Still, OSU should have made more of an effort to throw the ball.  The one deep shot they took was wide open, Barrett just missed the receiver.

Asgardian

November 23rd, 2015 at 6:10 PM ^

Thinking through the puts and takes:

- If you're playing press man w/ 10 guys w/in 5 yards of the LOS, your run support is outside not in the middle of the field, right?  So you try to string plays out to the sideline more than turn them back as an LB.

- We seem to have more Nickel/SS types (Peppers & Hill): can play press, support the run, probably not as good playing a deep third or man from 8-10 yds off.

- And fewer LBs that you feel good about taking off to cover the flat or 1x1 running down the field with a TE.

- Perhaps as a compromise you could split the field and give Wilson a deep half & move him up to 10-12 yds (instead of 12-20).  Play press underneath his half and softer on the opposite side.  Don't tip this too much with your alignment though, and mix it up.

Carcajou

November 23rd, 2015 at 9:17 PM ^

I would imagine Michigan will be changing up the depths of their safeties- making Barrett figure it out, and having to make throws to beat us. 

The Safety high is presumably to clean up anything, screaming downhill.

I am less worried about the OSU perimeter game (don't know how accurate Barrett is with the WR screens and throws to the Flats), than I am concerened about getting gashed between the tackles on power or whatever (that's what I seem to recall from the 2006 and other OSU games), where the safeties come down too far (and the CBs are in press), and Elliott (or Barrett) breaks through for a long run for a TD .

 

Jevablue

November 24th, 2015 at 12:13 PM ^

I actually expect to see a heavy dose of Braxton Miller, with even a pass attempted by him in this game. They have under-utilized him this year, he's two time O-player of the year, and they will pull out all the stops.  He scares me more than JT.

CoachBP6

November 25th, 2015 at 4:06 AM ^

Great work Mr Sharik. My main worry with how we will possibly defend osu is essentially the same.

I worry about our depth issues on the defensive interior falling victim to fatigue from tempo, leading to godin & strobel seeing more time, which takes away from our ability to defend IZ / OZ / Trap.

The reason I have always loved the spread option is, if it is run correctly, you can nickel and dime a team to death as 4 yards is fairly simple if you have all the tools of a successful spread option offense.

I think we need to mix things up against osu showing them all sorts of different looks bc you know Urban & his staff will find ways to exploit the defense MSU ran against them in the scenario that we will try the same thing. Weather, in my opinion was a factor in MSU's success, but I agree, they played them well.

I didn't go back and look but I wonder if MSU played this same D last year vs osu where they got torched for 8 td's on 9 drives.

I think what our game comes down to on defense is individual match ups, everyone doing their job, in game adjustments, and shutting down the QB run as well as osu's constraint plays such as the jet sweep, inverted veer, traditional veer & WR screens. If we can limit osu's success on those plays, I think we can definitely beat them. However, if we allow them to tire us out with tempo & gash us with their athletes in space, I'm not sure we will be able to score enough points to win as osu's defense > Indiana's defense.

I trust that Durkin & crew will have a special defensive scheme for this game as they had a special DL alignment vs PSU that was wildly effective.

Let's get this win!!



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