2016 - It's a "Tough Schedule" Meme

Submitted by alum96 on

Reading up on the board of late and seeing a lot of "wow it's a tough schedule" in 2016.  We will hear that all spring and summer.  I will present a counter argument to that - unless you believe Michigan should be playing a Mountain West schedule.  There is a difference between having a few really tough games vs having a tough schedule. 

1) UM will be heavily favored in a ton of games.

Taking away 3 road games - MSU, OSU, Iowa .... and maybe Wisconsin at home, I think UM will be favored by double digits in every other game.  Not sure how you can have a "tough schedule" when oddsmakers only see 3-4 games being competitive in point spread. 

2) Michigan has 8 home games and 4 road games. 

That's a big advantage and atypical for many P5 teams who often top out at 7 home and 5 road.  (For perspective in 2017 UM has 6 home games, 1 neutral, 5 road games)

The reduction of the non conf from 4 to 3 games means in 2016 you eliminated the 1 road game vs a "peer quality P5 team" ala Notre Dame or hell Utah.  I think home field means even more in college than pros due to age of players, maturity, mentality, etc.  Michigan played like world beaters in all but 2 games at home this year, and struggled in all but 1 of their road games...and even in that one struggled for a half.

Related - 6 of the first 7 games are at home which will allow UM to have a massive head of steam (and get the QB up and running) going into the last month of the year.  The one "road game" is in NJ which might as well be Ann Arbor East at this point.

Having 8 home games is a huge advantage.

3) That non conference though

This is the easiest non conference schedule UM has had in many many years.  There is not one high quality team.  I do think Colorado's offense (dual threat QB alert!!!) will pressure UM by the way and that is not as easy of a game as it looks like on paper (and I said last year preseason Oregon State would be awful while many wringed hands -- which they were), but Hawaii is barely a D1 program and USF was 0-12 last year.  And I don't care if that's a bunch of Florida kids who will surge by 6 wins in 2016 to get back to .500, it a team that Michigan OSU Oklahoma Florida State types should ram rod. 

There is no tricky game vs Notre Dame or Utah here.

4) Not every game is supposed to be a cakewalk that UM will be favored by 14+.

Generally P5 college football teams go and play 1 game a year vs a top 5 opponent -  and multiple top 20 opponents....people realize that right? Stanford goes and plays Oregon (and vice versa) - a lot of the P12 south teams are very similar in strength, not easy playing USC, UCLA, Utah, Zona, ASU etc.  The entire SEC West has to play Bama, as do a few SEC East teams... LSU and Auburn are usually pretty damn good.  Even the down East has had quality programs like Georgia and Florida in it  - and all will have crossovers with 1-2 tough West teams. Many ACC teams either have to play FSU or Clemson, B12 teams have to try to deal with the offenses of Baylor, TCU and usually Oklahoma is top 10 material.  If you think any schedule that involves multiple 20 team, inclusive of a top 5 team is "tough", than I guess go be a Utah State fan - that's how it works and UM will never have a non "tough" schedule.

UM faces a whole 2 teams who were top 20 in F/+ in 2015 (an easy way to rank teams) next year.  And only 4 in the top 40.  Brutal eh!!

  • OSU #4
  • MSU #6
  • Iowa #25
  • Wisconsin #33
  • PSU #46
  • Indiana #62
  • Illinois #67
  • Maryland #74
  • Colorado #95
  • Rutgers #101
  • Hawaii #121
  • UCF #128

5) OSU

Let's isolate OSU onto itself.  OSU will always be a tough game, esp with Urban.  So if you think having OSU on the schedule makes a schedule tough than UM will never have a non tough schedule.  This is the right year to get OSU as they will suffer massive attrition to the draft.  In a relative sense this is going to be the most challenged OSU team in a while - very talented but very young.  They will be better in mid Nov than mid Sept.  But again we are talking relative.  Would you rather face 2015 or 2016 OSU on the way to a playoff run?

6) MSU

No I have not been in the "this is the year MSU goes back to 7 wins!" camp like quite a few and have taken the downvotes the past 3 years to prove it.  (Some thought I was a MSU troll in 2013/2014 in fact)  But I do think they do take a step back - not a monster one - this year.  Cook is a damn good QB and I could care less what his NFL potential is - it's about what he does at the college level; he kept MSU in many games and darn right outright won some for MSU the past 2 years.  Losing him is regression, period.  MSU's WR corps is in as much of an unknown state as UM's LB corps.  I do expect the defense to still be "very good"+ and much worse MSU teams have given UM all sorts of trouble but again in a relative sense this is the least experienced MSU offense UM will have faced since 2012 / 2013. It will be more run based than the past 2 years which is in UM favor.  This should be MSU's be the least talented overall team since the 2012 squad - which had a similarly very good defense and challenged offense.  (I think MSU wins about 9 next year) 

Again - easy game? No.  But you are going to have a few tough games on your schedule.

7) Penn State gonna be tough! It's Penn State bro!

Until proven otherwise James Franklin is a tanner Brady Hoke.  Really I could end the bullet point there.  Stop looking at the name of the jersey and remember UM under Brady Hoke.  They have a quality D.C. (Mattison to Shoop) and a lot of 4 stars that are not well used, with a bad OL.  And they lose 2 of their top 3 DL off that team to boot.  They will be installing a brand new offense.  Barkley looks like a good running back - UM's D is going to be built to stop run focused offenses.  See Florida.

Tell me PSU's best win last year.  Tell me PSU's best win the past 2 years.  They are Hoke UM - they will take out a 7-6 OSU or 7-6 MSU in its down year and then look foolish when those teams are rolling and lose by 20-30.  Then get into dogfights with the Rutgers and Marylands of the world. 

And it's James Franklin vs Jim Harbaugh.  At home.  Get that sh** out of here.

8) Wisconsin

Wisconsin is a quality team but no world beater.  And they lost their ace defensive coordinator.  This is a team that lost to Northwestern at home.  They will get Clement back which will be a challenge for UM but run defense should be a strength.   In theory the Wisconsin offense should be built for UM to stop.  And with Aranda gone that defense needs to find a new bright mind - it's not easy, especially at the budget Alvarez seems to want to be at.  Solid team but one a playoff team should bully through. 

If this is the 3rd most difficult game on the schedule - home game vs 25th ranked team - you don't have a tough schedule.

9) Iowa man...

The whole concept Iowa is a tough game would be laughed at 12 months ago.  Iowa had "one of those magical seasons".  Then got exposed by Stanford.  You know - the team with the offense most like UM.  And Stanford had a meh defense this year to boot.  In retrospect their close game vs MSU just showcased two semi frauds.  People asked all year what Iowa would be like when playing a "real team" - well you saw.  UM 2016 should be a "real team" and the magic of 2015 won't repeat for Iowa.

Now is this an easy game? Hell no - its a quality team that looks to be returning a good amount of talent, a senior QB, and its a road game.  It's a tough game.  But it's not another OSU.  Their best win was Pitt this year.

Put another way - what place in the East would Iowa have finished this year?  What about next? 

10) DJ Durkin is going to come with guns blazing!!!

Cumong man.

What do you think Jim MF Harbaugh is going to want to do vs his ex assistant.  If Durkin is so awesome he walks into AA and upsets a top 5-10 UM with Maryland's talent maybe we should have kept him and let Jim go to the NFL.

Have you seen Maryland's QBs play?  There is a good chance if Haskins stays committed to Maryland, a true, not named Rosen, freshman is going to be be leading the charge.  Tell me about Maryland's skill players on offense again?  I'll wait for it.  As for defense, Maryland lost its 1 true star to the draft early.   And Likely is not back there returning kicks anymore.

Go look back the past 2 years and tell me what quality victories Maryland has.  They get slaughtered on the road most of the time.  They often lose by 20-40 when playing MSU, OSU, Wisconsin type of competition.  Michigan is at that level now.

Now if you want to tell me you like Maryland long term and 2017 @ Maryland is a trap game I can buy your premise - Durkin and staff will be in year 2 with maybe a non buffoon at QB and a year to roll in some new recruits, with an interesting new young OC, yada yada - but get this DJ Durkin is coming to AA to take Jim  Harbaugh's scalp crap out of here in 2016.

11) Indiana!!!

Go forward I expect Indiana's offense to be pretty damn good every year and cause issues for everyone.  They are basically poor man's Texas Tech at this point.  But if Indiana is a reason you think it's a tough schedule....

They lose Howard who is a Wolverine killer - yes their backup RB will still be good based on bowl but Howard was probably a top 7 NCAA back last year in these eyes.  And Sudfeld is going to be a late NFL draft pick  - he gone.  They also lose 2 NFL Olinemen.  That said they probably "reload" to a degree at QB and the line because of good coaching.  But UM just put up 40 on UF - I think we can handle that defense of Indiana. 

So every conference has this type of team right ?  Basically Washington State of the P12 or Texas Tech of B12 or North Carolina in ACC, etc.  So tons of teams have to deal with such teams and it doesn't make their schedules uber tough - you are not getting 9 creampuffs a season, see point 1.

12) UM continues to face a lot of not explosive offenses and not excellent QBs

Upsets usually happen when a gimmicky offense goes off on you - i.e. Washington State or Texas Tech rolls in on you and your offense has a bad night.  UM doesn't face many of those offenses or system QBs as there are not many in the conference.  Now maybe that changes in the next 2 years with the systems PSU, Maryland, and Rutgers throw in place.  But right now its basically OSU and Indiana.  MSU some years...not years named 2012 and 2013.

Do you think Wisconsin or Iowa (our "3rd and 4th toughest games") are going to go out and put up 30+ on our D?  Heck Colorado might be the 5th best offense we face next year.

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Summation

Does UM have an "easy" schedule.  No.  There are very few easy schedules in P5 last I checked - a few teams in the ACC Coastal who avoid both Clemson and FSU would be the main ones I see. 

If you believe a team should have 9 cakewalks than UM's schedule is incredibly difficult.  You are not living in reality however.

The 2 premier teams on the schedule will have their least experienced teams since 2013.  So it's a good time to catch them.  The next 2 toughest teams (Wisc, Iowa) are not powerhouses - solid teams that usually get pistol whipped by OSU level squads.  If we think we are a playoff team we are going to be a OSU level squad next year.  If we are not - we don't deserve to be in the playoffs.  See MSU this year.

Speaking of MSU, MSU basically had this schedule last year - they had 3 tough games vs top 15 opponents and had to go face both rivals on the road (OSU, UM).  The wash between MSU 2015 and UM 2016 is MSU had Oregon at home and UM has Iowa on the road.  Which would you rather? I'd take my chances with Iowa on the road rather than throwing our linebackers out in space vs Oregon's skill players.  And OSU on the road in 2015 was supposed to be the #1/#2 team in the country - not a young team who lost half its team to the NFL aa 2016.  No one thought MSU's schedule was uber tough overall.  It just had some tough games in it - which is usually how college football works.

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2016 is the year to make hay to a playoff run with a QUITE favorable schedule that includes 8 home games, and 8-9 games UM will be double digit favorites without a premier non conf game to be seen.   Our 2 chief rivals will have their youngest/least experienced teams with the most holes in them since 2012/2013.  It's a top heavy schedule that is essentially make or break on 3 road games.  Until UM moves to the ACC Coastal and is in the 2 year cycle they avoid both FSU and Clemson (and ND) and play all sub .500 teams in non conf this is the best schedule they will have in a long while.

Comments

Michigan4Life

January 2nd, 2016 at 7:51 PM ^

I hate it when fans call spread offense like air raid or spread option, etc as gimmicky because they don't understand the principle of the offense. Just call it a good offense, not gimmicky which is a lazy analysis



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unWavering

January 2nd, 2016 at 11:16 PM ^

They lose a lot of talent, but we've been saying this for years and it pretty much never happens. MSU is recruiting well and Mark Dantonio is one of the best coaches in the country. I don't think they'll be great next year, but let's not act like they'll be a bottom of the barrel team either. And we play them at their place, and we all know weird things happen there.

SBo

January 2nd, 2016 at 11:51 PM ^

I agree with those who are saying that it's just as tough of a schedule as any given year, after division realignment. This is good for us, and will be good for .the 2017 team to get some big game experience.

funkywolve

January 3rd, 2016 at 12:36 AM ^

I think one of the key things you said is that OSU will always be a tough game and as long as Mark D is at MSU that will probably be tough too.  What will determine how tough the overall schedule is each year is the remaining 10 opponents.  Next year, it' doesn't appear that hard on paper.  Of the remaining 10 games 8 of them are at home and one of the road games is Rutgers.  2016 will probably be one of the easiest non-conference schedules UM will have in the foreseeable future.

BlueKoj

January 3rd, 2016 at 1:14 AM ^

"Tough" is relative. Relative to accomplishing goal of CFP which requires East Champs and B1G champs then conference schedule is tough. Relative to Sparty and OSU conference schedule is tough. Crossovers are worse than other contenders except for WI (brutal). Going to EL and CBus obviously is a disadvantage for the east. So, the non-con is very easy, but the B1G is as tough as it gets.

uminks

January 3rd, 2016 at 3:08 AM ^

Harbaugh has been working with the QBs, so I'm not worried there (I think it will be O'Korn). I think one or two of the RB will emerge as go to backs and the OL will improve quite a bit next season. DL will be monsters and the secondary will be good. I think Harbaugh will find solutions to improve our LB play. So, I think it will be very possible to have a 10 to 12 win season.

MSU always plays well against us at home. Every time I think they will have a down season they fill in their deficiencies. OSU will be young but very talented and difficult to beat on the road. My guess we win a close game against MSU and lose a close one against OSU. If we finish the season at 11-1, we will still make the playoffs. I'm more optimistic about next season after watching the team play against Florida. I actually seen improved OL blocking against a top defensive line of Florida.

Stuck in Lansing

January 3rd, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^

The only teams on that schedule that represent inreased difficulty compared to 2015 are Wisconsin with Clement, and Iowa. Indiana will be worse Penn State without Hack is at best  even wit last year. OSU loses talent but will be good. MSU loses talent and will be fighting with PSU for 3rd place. I am hoping our QB and WRs will be to a point where we can run our fastest guy out into the slot and burn the MSU safety like well done toast. You know, like every good offense MSU has played for the last two years. D. Cox cannot cover Chesson. I see 11-1.

Lanknows

January 3rd, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^

Would that have made this year's schedule easier than next years?

Wisconsin, Iowa, Colorado can be viewed as replacing Utah, Minnesota, and BYU.  1 road game instead of 2 is easier sure, but offset by the OSU/MSU road combo.

Colorado is a lot better than their record indicated and headed in the right direction, especially on D where they are led by Jim Leavitt.  Michigan will be heavily favored at home but that’s a game that’s probably a BYU-caliber threat level.

I would rather face 2015 OSU, who was prone to uninspired performances, at home than 2016 OSU on the road. With fresh faces comes a certain hunger that may have been lacking in this years team that frankly seemed to get out-wanted by MSU. OSU won’t be lacking for talent or coaching and will boast a more experienced and secure JT Barrett.  MSU will miss Cook and their OL.

I think you have a point here about that and nobody else in the B1G is that scary but that's sort of the point.  On the road or at home Michigan should beat everyone in the B1G besides MSU and OSU.  So those are the ones that count and having both on the road is hard.

The schedule is harder in the places where it matters.  Losing Utah on the road is offset by having to travel to OSU and MSU.

So, anybody whining about a hard schedule overall isn’t quite being truthful, but Michigan is also not well setup to win its division.   Winning the division is probably necessary to making the playoff. 

It's not all about expected wins, it's about our odds of winning the Big Ten.

WolverineHistorian

January 3rd, 2016 at 4:52 PM ^

The last time Colorado came to the big house was in 1997 and we beat them 27-3 to start out the national title season. The year before, we played them in Boulder and won 20-13. That was the fail Mary game where Lloyd's mishandling of the clock allowed Colorado to attempt a much easier Hail Mary pass on the final play that was, thankfully, incomplete. But 1994 still stings MAJORLY. And even though we've technically got our revenge and then some, Colorado deserves another ass kicking because of Kordel and Micahel Westbrook.

JTGoBlue

January 3rd, 2016 at 6:28 PM ^

Thank you for putting this together. I think most see that we have to play MSU and OSU on the road and think 'tough schedule'. However, we won all of our road games this year in the B1G; Harbaugh will have them ready. You've made a lot of good points here.

For me, the schedule lays out really well in that we will be favored in our first 7 games, six at home, win a bye. Does this leave a little extra practice time each week to get ready for the first real test at MSU? Then we handle Maryland at home, followed by a road game at Iowa to keep the focus, then at home again against Indiana, which is a perfect tune-up for OSU.

In addition to your points, I think the ORDER of the schedule also sets up nicely for a run at the playoff.



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columnatedruins

January 3rd, 2016 at 7:44 PM ^

I am one of those that believes expectations for next season should be tempered.  Not with pessimistic downtrodden slump-shouldered oh god not another year of RichRod sulking, but simply tempered.  Maybe it isn't our SOS but who we are in the face of such a schedule that includes road games against the teams that finished 1-2-3 in the conference at the end of the regular season...

Don't get me wrong, the case for another 10-win season (or even 11) has been presented well... good support, eloquently stated.  You make me want to believe. We have some plusses on our side and not the least of which is our genius wizard HC who I hope stays for 20+ years and is regarded as the greatest coach in the history of the program.

The idea that 2016 could finish with "only" 9 wins is not simply a matter of MGoAngst/PTSD... nor is it pessimistic nay-saying.  It is a possible pragmatic outcome that can easily happen if the "IFs" presented/suggested in previous posts don't come through.  OR if any of the other vulnerabilities (ie lack of depth in the secondary) are exposed through injury.  9 wins seems just as likely as 12.   That's no Lou "HennyPenny" Holtz reaction... there are big enough questions (and potential liabilities) at QB, LB, FB, & even P that if the breaks don't fall our way, a close win could be a loss... especially on the road or against a somewhat capable team like Wisconsin or PSU.

The road to E Landfill and on to the Bus isn't especially daunting but it is sufficiently stout (for who we are at this point in time) to have us looking at a 9-4 finish as a possibility if we aren't hitting our stride in a few key areas by week 4 or 5 and if we play a bowl game against a team that actually shows up.   

Having said that... as an optimist at heart... I hope to instead be overcome with ecstatic surprise with our first ever 15-win season.

 

 

SpikeFan2016

January 4th, 2016 at 11:45 AM ^

Two things:

  1. Northwestern is obviously not as good as their record indicates.
  2. Iowa's best win is Wisconsin, but Iowa was incredibly, incredibly lucky to beat the Badgers. Wisconsin had multiple turnovers while in the red zone (one of which was on the one yard line) and Iowa only won by a 4 point margin. Iowa didn't win that game, Wisconsin lost it. 

Ziff72

January 4th, 2016 at 11:15 AM ^

I agree with everything in this write up but who in the hell says we have a tough schedule? Maybe I missed it but I've never seen that comment.  The prevailing thought all along was this schedule sucks because we have no marquee home games.  

 

Ali G Bomaye

January 4th, 2016 at 4:52 PM ^

It comes down to two games: MSU and OSU.  Win both of those, and we're probably a playoff team, even if we drop one other game, because we'd win our division and get a chance for another quality win in the B1GCG.  Drop one of those, especially the OSU game, and the team that beats us probably wins the division and knocks us out of the playoff.

Unfortunately, both those games are on the road.  I still think that we're likely to beat MSU, because they lose Cook, Burbridge, Calhoun, and a lot of their OL.  OSU loses a lot too, but they've been recruiting insanely well, so they might be able to reload and blood their next generation of quality players by the end of November.

FreddieMercuryHayes

January 5th, 2016 at 8:17 AM ^

When it comes to the schedule difficulty, I don't look at UM specifically, but rather how the schedule compares to the chief divisional competitors. In the case of 2016, UM clearly has the toughest schedule. The OSU and MSU games are all the more important to hold a tie breaker in the conference schedule if it comes to that. I could see UM being the 'best' team in the division next year and still not winning the division because of the schedule. Much like OSU this year and one bad game combined with luck for MSU in their other games.



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LV Sports Bettor

January 5th, 2016 at 3:08 PM ^

of just 10-11 overall in the previous three years at home. I agree that playing at Iowa isn't as tough as most are making it out to be.

Yessir

January 6th, 2016 at 8:51 AM ^

I thought next year was going to be a tougher schedule, but mainly because both rival games will be road games. 

Good post, Alum96

MGoStrength

January 7th, 2016 at 9:27 AM ^

OSU and MSU both lose a lot, both games will still be a toss up and could go either way.  We'll obviously be up for both of those games, but they are good teams and on the road.  I'm fiarly confident with PSU at home, on the road would be another story, but I think we got that monkey off our back this  year.  I honestly haven't seen Wiscy play much and don't know what to expect.  It's after a home game with PSU so has the potential for a let down, especially if PSU is a night game.  I'd hope they make Wiscy a night game since they haven't been there for a while.  The major concern IMO is Iowa on the road.  As good of a season as this was in terms of improvement and feelings about our team, and as overrated as we think Iowa is, need I remind you that we barely escaped with wins at Indiana and Minnesota and Iowa is a much better team. 

 

I'd hope for 10-11 wins, but I could also easly see losses on those 3 road games with an unproven QB and an up and down o-line/RB combo.  If the defense remains healthy that will help, but there are injuries every year and if a guy like Wormley, Glasgow, Peppers, or Lewis goes down we are in trouble especially if Henry decides to declare fo the draft (can't assume yet we have Gary).  Imagine if we McCray isn't healthy and Gedeon goes down.  Who are our LBs?  Still some question marks and depth concerns to be overly confident in a playoff run or 1-loss season IMO.

taistreetsmyhero

January 7th, 2016 at 12:10 PM ^

If this team goes 9-3 with losses to MSU, Iowa, and OSU (essentially this year's results), it would be pretty much a failure of a season. The reason this year isn't the same degree of failure is that MSU and OSU were really good teams, and the Iowa-level game came in the first game of the year.

It's stupid when the entirety of your season's credibility rests in the results of three road games all tucked away near the end of the season.