Neck Sharpies: Oh No We're Illinois Now Comment Count

Seth November 17th, 2020 at 11:25 AM

Last year Wisconsin messed with Michigan gap defense plenty, but even that wasn't as bad as Michigan's Lovie Smithian edge defense on Saturday. As you might have guessed, such a wholesale disaster was the result of many issues. But I did find one play that included most of them.

This is a simple jet sweep, and a fine example of what an absolute disaster Michigan's run defense has become this year. The simple explanation for what went wrong on this play is that Michigan cracked but did not replace. They spilled without an edge. Gemon Green was the main issue but other culprits here who had a chance to make a play and didn't were Daxton Hill, who got crack-blocked by the WR, Brad Hawkins, who instead of funneling back to help got taken for a donkey ride, Donovan Jeter who didn't read the handoff and pursue, Carlo Kemp who didn't do enough to keep his LB clean, Josh Ross who got caught inside and then shoved to the ground, the refs because the shove was in the back, and Vincent Gray because he's Vincent Gray. Blame goes on the players yes, but also very much on their coaches, particularly whoever's coaching the safeties, because these issues were chronic.

[After THE JUMP: Spilling to nothing]

Playing to Spill

First a quick refresher on Crack/Replace, aka Playing to Spill:

Playing to spill is a defensive technique where the force player (edge defender) dives inside of a block while another defender pops outside. This is done on the fly as a way to screw up blocking assignments and force the ballcarrier into this now-unblocked outside defender.

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You can see it executed here against Maryland last season. Hutchinson (#97) spills McGrone (#44) who spills to Hudson (#7) who spills to Metellus (#14) who now has the back trapped against the sideline.

The trick is of course that you need that speed to come through. If your defense is relying on the linebackers not getting outflanked, anything that delays the linebackers inside is going to turn the strength of their speed into a weakness.

Defending Jet

Using that structure, how is Michigan supposed to defend a Jet Sweep like this?

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It's simple enough: keep replacing on the edge until there's nobody but the ballcarrier and the sideline.

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However Michigan is at a disadvantage at the snap because their linebackers—plus Daxton Hill who's basically been turned into the Viper on this play—are all looking inside. The cornerback, Gemon Green, is focused on the WR in man defense. Only Hawkins, traveling with the Jet motion, is stepping playside.

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Who's supposed to be looking out depends on how you defend things. If we were watching MSU here you'd be mad at the defensive line for getting reached by the LG and LT. But Michigan's defense is a crack-replace. The line is supposed to go inside of those blocks, and the linebacker level is supposed to make them right by getting outside.

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The reason I put this partly on Dax is he's the defender supposed to make Kemp right. Getting crack-blocked by a wide receiver while the guy (the H-back) you're nominally defending gets to the edge is losing the play. Dax getting blocked to Bolivia by that WR creates an obstacle for Josh Ross, who needs to make Jeter right by getting outside this guard.

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Ross got blocked in the back here but that doesn't happen if Hill isn't stacked up in his path.

However Michigan has another guy who's supposed to be helping here. The guy on the other side of the WR blocking Dax is CB #22 Gemon Green, who makes the classing Channing Stribling mistake: DON'T GET STUCK ON A DOTGAMNED CRACKER!

Watch #22 on the top this time.

If Dax's mistake is one of unawareness, Gemon's is two ticks worse. The phrase "Crack/Replace" comes from this technique every cornerback should learn in high school for run defense. This was an issue from the first snap of the game. I clipped this for the next section because of what happens to Cam McGrone, but it's also hard not to notice Green getting caught inside then falling down.

Lastly I want to cluck at Carlo Kemp, mostly because we saw Gabe Newburg play it better later on.

Defensive end at the top

The guard who picked off Ross the first time can't get out there because Newburg decided to cut off that guy instead of just hanging on the shoulder of the offensive tackle. Neither is able to make the play, because they're both quasi-tackles. You think back to Chase Winovich versus Maryland in 2018 when Matt Canada kept trying to edge Michigan with their Flexbone offense, and couldn't because the end couldn't get turned. The lack of an elite DE is a recruiting issue, though one most teams have to face. The reason the same play got six yards on this second example wasn't Newburg or Ross, but Michigan playing Cover 2 and Vincent Gray getting blown up on the edge with a receiver's kickout block. The reason Michigan can't get away with those kinds of mistakes is they have way fewer All-Americans available this year than they've had in the past.

Getting Favorable Matchups

Wisconsin knew what they were doing when they set this up. It's the same thing Mark Dantonio was doing in the "July Drive" against Michigan in 2016: flip the strength of the formation to get favorable matchups.

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They come out in their Ace Heavy formation with a pair of tight ends on the boundary side. Michigan sets their strength to personnel, so the Anchor—now Carlo Kemp with Hutchinson and Paye out—will be between that big heavy tight end and their viper, Michael Barrett, who's a hybrid safety who can play and old-fashioned strongside OLB because he's willing to hit like a linebacker, and the bigger defensive end protects him from direct blocks.

When Wisconsin flips the inline tight end, Barrett travels to the other side, and the other two linebackers flip so that WILL James Ross is still the OLB and MIKE Cam McGrone is still the MLB. Note however that it's too late to flip defensive ends. When Hutchinson and Paye were in this wouldn't matter—both are heavy dudes who've played plenty of Anchor and are good at keeping their Vipers clean. Luigi Vilain however is more of a specialized weakside end. He's 21 pounds smaller than Kwity, and having lost his first two seasons on campus to injury, is far behind Paye in strength development.

They've also subtly flipped the jobs of SS Daxton Hill and VIPER Michael Barrett. Barrett practices getting around crack attempts and shooting outside when a defensive end is occupying blockers from an inside gap more than any other skill. Meanwhile Hill's position coach, Bob Shoop, isn't with the program for undisclosed reasons. I can't begin to speculate what the reason is, but the result is safeties who aren't being coached on the level that they were in previous years. Daxton has been a playmaker this year, but he is also a quasi-cornerback who plays some cornerback. Wisconsin's two-TE formation and swap turned the strong safety role into literally that of an outside linebacker. That's a less familiar situation. Michael Barrett wasn't perfect at edge protection, however it's his primary role.

Wisconsin identified that Barrett wasn't the outside linebacker they wanted to attack, and Josh Ross was. Let me show you the first play after halftime:

Again, flipping the Y tight end (Jake Ferguson) flips the OLBs so Michigan can keep Barrett to Ferguson's side, and Wisconsin knows this and is motioning before a run play that attacks the Ross side. This is almost the same play except the Jet WR is a kickout blocker and the ball goes to the running back. Carlo Kemp has made an adjustment, getting outside that offensive tackle and swimming through the H-back to get a tackle attempt in the backfield. When your DT has won you rally and clean up. Ross slows up when he makes contact with the H-back, then lets the guy around him.

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Gray at least came off the receiver, though his edge is wide and less than a 1-for-1. Brad Hawkins, the safety on this side who should be screaming down to help, is tied up with that receiver. It's Daxton Hill who runs this down finally.

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Hill and McGrone almost made another play that drive that just need Josh Ross to pop an H-back. This Ross got a little tougher job because Taylor Upshaw got moved (and then held) but he also got a lot of old linebackers yelling about physicality when #34 shoulders him out of the play.

For what it's worth I thought Upshaw was responsible for the two reverses, since he was constantly shuffling on that backside edge.

Weakness Nerfs Playmakers

The safeties are going to come into play here but why does the DE personnel difference matter on a play that's not going to that side? Well, it's a weakness, and anticipating the way defenses respond to their weaknesses is a good way to attack them. Every team has them, to some degree. But defenses hide personnel weaknesses behind strengths so you can't get at them. Wisconsin uses a five-man front that puts OLBs on permanent edge duty; their Cover 2 safeties hammer down on intermediate zones to make you throw over them.

Michigan State uses wide fronts and hard edges, pushing the ball back inside where speed matters less than testosterone. Indiana blitzes the edges to force quick decisions into varied coverage looks that are hard to anticipate. And Michigan compensates for DTs who get pushed around by diving their linemen into the A and B gaps and trusting their linebackers to outrace any backfield material to the edges.

Anticipating how the defense will play you is a big part of getting those subtle victories in blocking. Michigan might be playing to spill with Vilain, but they'll almost certainly be doing so with Carlo Kemp, who was playing defensive tackle until both All-American DEs went out. Flipping the formation moved Michigan's best edge defender, Michael Barrett, to the backside where he can't do any harm, and got a pretty good guess about how the defense will attack them in the process. They're so sure in fact that they leave Donovan Jeter unblocked the whole play, trusting that Kemp is going B gap so Jeter will go inside to the A gap, again, behind the play.

Putting a tight end over Vilain matters also. Let's slow it down and watch the feet of the two inside linebackers, particularly those of #12 Josh Ross:

Why are they stepping backside? Well, they're reading their guards, for one. McGrone is checking the one Hinton's got, as well as the backfield. As the backside MLB in this configuration he's got to worry about the handoff, and filling aggressively if that TE and OT lined up over Vilain turn that into a double.

Ross's step is with a little shimmy by the left guard. But there's a half-beat after the guard heads to the playside edge where Ross is still watching the running back, since McGrone replacing is going to demand Ross's attention inside on an RB handoff. When Jeter goes into this A gap (unblocked), Ross has to be making Jeter good by blasting into the next gap over.

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Simply put, Wisconsin's downhill running game against this defensive line put the fear of the cheese gods into Michigan's linebackers, ensuring Ross wouldn't muck up their play from behind. Let's go back to the other play I clipped—the first play of the game. Watch McGrone here because this time he's the guy who's supposed to be arriving from the backside if Green doesn't falldowngoboom.

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Michigan later went back to their Minnesota configuration of playing Dax as the overhang on open (no WR) edges, so Green can take a read before reacting.

That works better but it removes Hill as a late line of defense if the offense goes the opposite direction.

Where Do We Go From Here?

The primary takeaway from Michigan's putrid edge defense this week is that they were probably terrified of getting hammered inside, and their cornerbacks are overwhelmed so much with pass pro that they're not much help in this department. Things should improve with Ross I think, at least until Ohio State—remember Michigan's linebackers fritzed out last year too. We can't fix the coaching right now, and that's what's needed to get the linebackers to still trust the defensive line when they're overmatched. The cornerbacks, well, there's a lot on their plates right now but moving Dax down on open edges is probably worth what they'll lose when Green gets matched downfield against a tight end.

Michigan's defense can't get to good this year. There are too many bad players, and not enough extraordinary ones, and not enough time to develop a new system that plays to what strengths they have. What they can do is try to get more cohesive so they don't continue to be worse than the sum of their parts. Right now Michigan has a lot of Guys who cause problems when they try to be Dudes. The good news is the first step—going from the disaster they are now to mediocre—is the easiest.

Comments

MGoStrength

November 17th, 2020 at 11:38 AM ^

Michigan's defense can't get to good this year. There are too many bad players, and not enough extraordinary ones, and not enough time to develop a new system that plays to what strengths they have. 

This is what I assumed, although from a recruiting standpoint is infuriating because we're playing mostly well recruited top 400 guys with a sprinkling in of a few elite top 100 guys.  Hinton, Kemp, Jeter, Vilain, Ross, McGrone, & Hill are all highly touted recruits.  I'm sure we missed Hutch & Paye, but there's no reason for a drop-off from Paye to Vilain as he's a top 50 guy and his injury should be well behind him.  And there's also no reason that Hinton, Kemp, & Jeter should not be above average P5 players based on their recruiting profiles.   Hawkins is a 3-star, although not a poorly recruited one.  Same with Green.  Gray gets a free pass, but Perry & Seldon who are sitting on the bench unable to take his spot do not.

Schmetacis is just not my thing.  I'm not a football coach and I don't get.  I understand the simple math of if we have better players we should be able to win.  Beyond that, that's all I got.  What I don't understand is how Wisconsin seems to be able to plug and play in a way UM does not.  They lose guys to graduation and the draft.  They play first time starters.  But, they never seem to have the sorts of issues we have.  We when beat them it's with talent.  They don't beat themselves.  Since we out recruit them at basically every position this has to be a coaching issue no?  Or did the coaches do a poor job of scouting our recruits and they are not as good as their recruiting rankings suggest?

ldevon1

November 17th, 2020 at 11:54 AM ^

So much for the best front 7 since Don Brown has been here. Hinton, is not good, and the sad part about that is Jeter is better, but not by much. Mazi is huge and could hold his own, but he still looks overweight and out of shape. Josh Ross is a disaster. I don't know what happened to him, but it's a sad day when you lose production when a walkon (Jordan Glasgow) leaves and he's replaced by a 4 star (Ross)

Double-D

November 17th, 2020 at 12:30 PM ^

Ross is completely lost. He is the weakest link on the entire defense. Cyan  

He is slow to recognize pass and behind to find his man in coverage.  He can’t fill his gap. He looks slower once he finally decides where he wants to go. He seems like he gets in McGrone’s way. 

Give your best freshman a chance to get experience at this stage. 

MGoStrength

November 17th, 2020 at 1:24 PM ^

Hinton is a head scratcher for sure, he's a 5 star in year 2, he should be flashing at times at minimum, he's made virtually no impact plays this season.

The only thing I can come up with is I think he played SDE in HS and was originally ranked as such and was a lower ranked recruit there.  When he reclassified to a DT he became a 5-star, but maybe his projection was not based on film, but rather an assumed fit at that position that was not accurate or he's behind the learning curve with the position.

MGoStrength

November 17th, 2020 at 1:28 PM ^

The more I look at our recruits the more I question fit/scheme, development, and talent identification.  It just is nuts how many guys that underperform relative to their recruiting profile.  I'm gonna do a diary about this and see if I can gain a better sense when I actually look at the numbers.  But, the 5-stars JH has recruited to date (Hill, Hinton, DPJ, & Solomon) is only about a 25% hit rate so far.  That seems off to me.  And that doesn't include the transfer rate of a slew of other top recruits like Singleton, Black, McCaffrey, Anthony, Sims, Muhammad, Asiasi, Crawford, Walker, etc.

trueblueintexas

November 17th, 2020 at 3:34 PM ^

Harbaugh is building a long list of highly recruited players who don't play up to their ranking. At some point, common sense wins the day. It's not because Michigan had bad luck with all of their 5 stars and high 4 stars while other teams don't. 

Many of the coaches are failing in development. I exclude Warinner, Zordich & Jay H. Their units have either performed well over time or showed good development. Most of the other coaches have some serious questions about them

The game planning and scheme is not helping the players. On offense I believe Harbaugh is a major monkey wrench in what Gattis wants to do. I can only assume the other offensive position coaches are trying to balance between Harbaugh and Gattis which means nothing will get fixed. On defense, as good as Brown was, he has a few key holes in his scheme and the good teams can exploit them. Even when Brown has a counter, it doesn't take long for an OSU to adjust and attack another hole Brown didn't have a plan for. No hope there other than a change.

ldevon1

November 17th, 2020 at 11:46 AM ^

Seth, I disagree with you on Kemp on the 1st jet sweep. There was nothing he could do. He saw the play and reached for the runner, who had momentum and was by him. The tackle went outside on the snap, and the guard went upfield . When Newburg was in, the guard went to block him. He played it better because the guard didn't go upfield to block a LB. 

Naked Bootlegger

November 17th, 2020 at 11:48 AM ^

Due to personnel deficiencies, this defense has to execute flawlessly.   And that's not happening.

Similar to MGoStrength's previous comments, though, I'm baffled as to why we're struggling so much given that we shouldn't have such deep personnel deficiencies according to the recruiting profiles of our 2-deep.   I can guarantee you that Wisconsin's physical talent isn't superior to ours (admittedly based on recruiting ratings), but they perennially have a top-notch defense that is essentially plug and play with well-coached components that seamlessly fit into their defensive philosophy.    The same can be said of Wisconsin's offense.   

ldevon1

November 17th, 2020 at 11:58 AM ^

The only thing I can think, is that our players didn't do shit during the lock down, and lockout from the facilities. They claimed they were lifting and running and doing what was necessary, but they really weren't. They just look weak at the point of attack on defense. Hinton is getting pushed around, Jeter is getting pushed around, and Ross looks like he has heavy legs, like it's the last game of the season, and it's 95 degrees out. 

Aspyr

November 17th, 2020 at 1:00 PM ^

Talent wise Wisconsin is much closer to us than in the past but the reason that they can plug in the next in-line without much drop-off is the consistent system that they run. It's obvious now that Don Brown's defense needs elite level players to shut down good teams and enough of a talent edge to work against average offenses. It is easier for Wisconsin to recruit because they may have say 10 options that would work for a certain position and Michigan has only a couple of which there is a high amount of competition for that recruit. So when Michigan doesn't get their man they are in trouble but Wisconsin misses out on a recruit they can just get the next guy and be just fine.

This is why Michigan needs to move to a defense that does not rely on having the elite level players because we are not going to be able to recruit at that level consistently until we start getting into the playoffs etc. You can still recruit elite talent but then they will be able to shine and not be wasted like Daxton Hill is now.

mGrowOld

November 17th, 2020 at 11:52 AM ^

Seth:

This is an excellent break down of our defensive breakdowns and why they're occurring and I enjoyed reading it.

BUT DAMN does "infolinks" make that a tough job to complete.  I mean I've got to really want to read the post to finish it.  I mean really want to because infolinks is fighting for the screen and giving me a precious small window to view it when i'm on my phone.  I cant help but wonder if any reader has purposively clicked on infolinks (I sadly did so once by accident when i was scrolling) because the stuff they present ranges from complete garbage to off shore robo-dialer.

Seth

November 17th, 2020 at 12:06 PM ^

I know you've been bothered by those a lot. They're coming through a partner who has a contract with them so I'm pretty limited in what I can do about it. They're also the only thing that's making any money for us on mobile, which has become 50% of readership. Big downside of a free site is it has to make money on ads, and between a box on the bottom that closes and in-situ ads that break up your reading I chose the former. Ultimately we're going to develop a paid app/skin. Meeting today.

bronxblue

November 17th, 2020 at 12:17 PM ^

It feels like a lot of the issues stem from having bad hires on the defensive side this last cycle.  Shoop appears to be somewhere else and Campanile seemingly wasn't replace properly.  The players aren't as "good" as the ones last year but they shouldn't be this bad, and I agree that they seem out of position as much as anything else.  If Brown is gone after this year (which I assume is the case), it'll be imperative for whomever takes his place to hit on these assistants because there's still talent here.

bronxblue

November 17th, 2020 at 12:17 PM ^

It feels like a lot of the issues stem from having bad hires on the defensive side this last cycle.  Shoop appears to be somewhere else and Campanile seemingly wasn't replace properly.  The players aren't as "good" as the ones last year but they shouldn't be this bad, and I agree that they seem out of position as much as anything else.  If Brown is gone after this year (which I assume is the case), it'll be imperative for whomever takes his place to hit on these assistants because there's still talent here.

Seth

November 17th, 2020 at 12:55 PM ^

Until I know the reason for Shoop's absence I don't want to judge. There are so many things it can be and some are just bad luck or understandable to some people and not others. Like what if he's got a pre-existing condition and getting COVID would kill him? I think some people would understand and others would excoriate him as a coward. Or what if he got into trouble and they can't fire him until it's investigated? Or what if he got into a fight with Harbaugh or Don Brown and they can't get out of his contract? If we don't know we can't talk, except to say I think it's definitely had an effect.

bronxblue

November 17th, 2020 at 1:59 PM ^

I assume it's a health concern with Shoop, since he's been a coach long enough, and at enough places, that I assume he can get along with other coaches for a year or two.  In no way do I blame him for COVID-19 likely causing issues, only that it doesn't sound like he's that engaged with the team day-to-day in a coaching capacity, and that's hurt the team.  

I sort of assumed Jean-Mary would have been able to step into the LB spot and do a better job than what we've seen thus far, but I'm also starting to realize we may have underrated the coaching abilities of some of the recruit-first types that were on the staff.  Similar to how I think we all sorta slept on McElwain as a good WR coach a couple years ago.

Anyway, I really liked this breakdown because it highlighted issues that we've been seeing for weeks but that Wisconsin just ruthlessly exploited.

AC1997

November 17th, 2020 at 2:00 PM ^

Regardless of Shoop's reason, I think it can safely be said that our defensive coaching hires haven't worked out.  I scoffed at that traitor Mattison leaving for a fake DC position at OSU....but the DL recruiting and development outside of Paye/Hutchinson has been worse since he left.  

Partridge was well liked and a great recruiter - probably a good position coach too.  Campanile was with the team for a year. 

Al Washington was a good recruiter and the LBs look worse lately since he left.   

Granted, bad players and bad play make all coaches look bad.  But the DL and CB recruiting specifically have been bad lately and that's making this season look even worse.

Greg McMurtry

November 17th, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^

Can they flip Ross and McGrone (Cam to WLB), similar weights, but McGrone seems to have better instincts and wheels. Seems like Ross’ lack of instincts are killing the edge. I’ve heard the MLB and WLB aren’t vastly different on this defense.

tnixon16

November 17th, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^

Michigan used to have a D that looked superior when we had the talent advantage, and putrid when we did not. Now, we have a dearth of talent and the same schemes that got easily out-coached against good teams...so now even the mediocre teams are carving it up. The early recruiting successes masked the issue for a while, but it’s always been there. No dudes...all guys...

steve sharik

November 17th, 2020 at 1:44 PM ^

What makes this play go is an interesting little wrinkle from the Wisconsin OL: the playside OT and OG take a jab step inside and then arc block. I've never seen an OLman juke before!

Anyway, some DC's spill everything, some squeeze everything, some do both.

My personal philosophy is to do the opposite of what the play is trying to accomplish. If the play is designed to get the edge and go outside, squeeze the hell out of it and make it go inside. If the play is designed to go downhill inside, spill the hell out of it and make it bounce outside. 

This accomplishes two things simultaneously:

  • Defeat the offense's purpose.
  • Gives pursuit more time to get to the ball because it has to radically redirect in order to get to green grass.

As for this play, the following is how I would play it from the defensive alignment shown in the first gif*:

  • End and Nose keep the OT and OG at the line.
  • Corner replace off the WR crack block, and meet the H back 1 yard behind the LOS (or as deep as possible).
  • Free safety get downhill on the WR and fight outside. Make the ball carrier cut back inside.
  • Will backer is unblocked in the hole. Make the tackle.

*"R" is for Rover (in my terminology, not Brown's), and is the strong safety

jonny_GoBlue

November 17th, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^

Assuming they are spilling on that first play after halftime, it would seem that Gray is a big offender as he jumps outside of the WR kick-out block giving a clean lane for the RB to turn upfield through.  If Gray dives inside here and forces the RB to the sideline this might only be a 2-3 yd gain when the S comes down to make the play.

benzolamas

November 17th, 2020 at 3:19 PM ^

I would argue that there are really no bad players on defense on this team, Seth. They simply do not look prepared by the coaches (or by their own lack of pre-game work).

Their play may be poor, but the talent is there, just not making the right reads from lack of preparation.

steve sharik

November 18th, 2020 at 9:09 AM ^

We really have no way of knowing without being a part of the program.

However, these same coaches have coached other players with great success, even to the point that now many of them are in the NFL. About a dozen of the starters on the 2019 team are either in the NFL or will be soon. How many of the 2020 starters do you think will end up in the league? 4 or 5?

Same coaches as last year (with the exception of Partridge) would suggest there is a severe drop-off in talent.

That's point #1. Point #2 is that Seth isn't saying these guys are bad players, he's saying they played badly on this play and in this game. And again, given that the coaches are a constant, that would suggest this is a player issue and not a coaching one.