ND to vacate 2012 (12-0) and 2013 football wins
February 13th, 2018 at 2:47 PM ^
Speaking of anything. I hate osu.
GO BLUE!!
February 13th, 2018 at 3:14 PM ^
the tarnish on the domes.....
February 13th, 2018 at 3:39 PM ^
Didn't they do this already? I thought this happened a couple of years ago.
February 13th, 2018 at 9:19 PM ^
ND appealed . . . and lost.
February 13th, 2018 at 3:40 PM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 3:42 PM ^
To Hell With Notre Dame
Can't way to bury them in September!!!
GO BLUE!
February 13th, 2018 at 4:16 PM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 4:21 PM ^
February 14th, 2018 at 12:58 AM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 4:42 PM ^
But this is incredibly heavy handed. A female student gives "impermissible benefits" to some players independent of the athletic department, they self report it after finding out, and then the entire program gets punished? What message is the NCAA trying to send here?
February 13th, 2018 at 5:44 PM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 6:53 PM ^
The message is also that if an athletic department discovers their players were up to something shady after the fact, they shouldn't report it, because penalties will come down that affec the entire program. That's how you encourage coverups and shady programs. That's how you lead to situations like Baylor and Michigan State- you create a culture where people are afraid of dirt coming out and close ranks instead of doing the right thing.
February 13th, 2018 at 8:25 PM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 9:39 PM ^
They too have been forced to vacate wins, of course, and therein lies the problem. Do we want to equate Notre Dame's situation with Baylor's? Do we want to send the message that if you do everything right, adhere to your school's honor code, and report violations, that you receive the same punishment as an institution that systematically covered up a decade of sexual assault?
If the punishments are going to be the same, schools might as well try to cover it up. That's a dangerous path.
February 14th, 2018 at 6:52 AM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 4:49 PM ^
I still have nightmares of watching Lou Holtz treading the sideline during games. Be gone demon.
February 13th, 2018 at 5:36 PM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 5:46 PM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 6:29 PM ^
OSU is now #2 in all time winning percentage.
Michigan (.72914) and Ohio State (.72510). Notre Dame (72422).
February 13th, 2018 at 7:39 PM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 7:43 PM ^
February 13th, 2018 at 9:59 PM ^
I guess I just never understood the point.
February 14th, 2018 at 8:04 AM ^
February 14th, 2018 at 8:22 AM ^
This times 1000%. This doesn't change the outcome of the games that were played, that team went 12-0, regardless of what was happening off the field. I've never understood the whole concept of vacating wins either. It's like that small minority of Michigan fans who think we should get to hang a banner because Louisville vacated their wins and National Championship. That banner wasn't earned, regardless of the other stuff, Michigan didn't win that game.
February 14th, 2018 at 1:02 PM ^