MSU Still Billing Abuse Victim
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:04 PM ^
the Chair and Vice-Chair of USA Gymastics resign, and accept responsibility.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:06 PM ^
MSU should actually be paying each victim for all of those years of negligence.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:06 PM ^
they will
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:50 PM ^
The payments will start soon and they will be costly. ...and deservedly so.
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:14 PM ^
Did some Google searching - the state of Michigan gave the University of Michigan (Ann Arbor) $308 million last year. MSU received $278 million.
Source - http://www.senate.michigan.gov/sfa/Publications/HiEdApprops/HiEdApprops_MostRecent.pdf
So unless funding to MSU increases by the state significantly to cover (what in my opinion, will be suit losses that total $300-400 million), I doubt the state is going to backfill these losses. It's going to come out of their endowment fund. Which is unfortunate, but the money has to come from somewhere.
January 22nd, 2018 at 6:20 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 6:52 PM ^
January 23rd, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^
It has been estimated.......that payments and legal fees will go north of one billion dollars.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:22 PM ^
This has to be so hard on Tom Izzo
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:51 PM ^
I never mentioned Izzo, so I'm unsure (actually, I am) why you replied to me.
January 22nd, 2018 at 6:22 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^
What a tough week for him. But he's a fighter.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:07 PM ^
Allegedly US Air refused to issue frequent flyer miles credit to the accounts of those who perished in flight 427 (Pittsburgh crash in 1994) because they "didnt complete the final leg of their flight".
A friend & co-worker was a VP in customer service and was tasked with telling the families of those who perished they had died told me this a few years ago. It was one of the reasons (besides being given the job of telling people their loved ones just died) he quit and came to work with me.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:25 PM ^
One of my PSU friends, her Dad was a US Air pilot and flew that same airplane at one point in the days preceding the crash. (man, that was a ugly crash). Heard 2nd-hand through her that same story.
I've readh that Congress passed the "Federal Family Plan for Aviation Disasters Act" in 1996 as a direct response to US Air's rather ham-handed response to that crash. The October 1994 American Eagle regional jet that crashed in NW Indiana due to ice build-up on the wings - American didn't respond well to that crash either.
As for MSU --- I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one - billing is probably automated and the folk working in billings never made the connection. It should be fixed in a hurry.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:55 PM ^
I'm surprised that US Air didn't honor the miles but make them non-transferable. That would have been just as douchey.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:28 PM ^
As our ball coach would say, to compare one to the other you are ultimately minimizing one (or something like that). They are both awful situations.....somebody screwed up here and should have caught on in the billing department.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:07 PM ^
this keeps getting worse and worse for msu, that klages should be going to court next
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:07 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:21 PM ^
The most likely explanation is that it never crossed anyone's mind to cancel all of those patient invoices.
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:22 PM ^
I work for a large corporation so I understand how disconnected a large organization can be. It is also difficult to think of everything.
That said, I've also seen my same company be confronted with an issue and respond amazingly well. That only happens if there is commitment from the top levels of leadership to make it a priority and apply the neccessary resources.
Sadly, based on what we have seen so far, it appears MSU's leadership has yet to recognize and priortize this situation accordingly.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:52 PM ^
MSU spokesman Jason Cody: "I of course do not have access to patient records, billing or otherwise. But this has been passed on to the people who handle that to address, and I can tell you that patients for former MSU physician Larry Nassar will not be billed."
— Kate Wells (@KateLouiseWells) January 22, 2018
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:10 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:08 PM ^
Someone in the accounting dept should lose their job over this... absolutely disgraceful.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:08 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:46 PM ^
"...No one knew..."
They knew, they just didn't "believe". The official sattement is that 'no MSU official believed it to be true'. This is what they're hanging thier hat on.
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:37 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:10 PM ^
On the one hand, hospital billing is incredibly automated, so certainly there is no intentional malice here.
On the other hand, JESUS H. CHRIST ON A POPSICLE STICK make sure you are NOT STILL billing a person who was SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IN YOUR FUCKING HOSPITAL
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:42 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:51 PM ^
I am absolutely, positively NOT an expert in this area, but how would saying to an admin, "Do NOT bill these X accounts - or ANY account related to Larry Nasser - for the time being" be a HIPAA violation?
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:07 PM ^
A manager saying it somwhere would not be a violation. Some employee snooping thorugh just to see if there are any current billings for him, would be. You cannot snoop through accounts. You cannot look at them unless you have specific need to do so. HIPAA is quite anal in that area...
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:51 PM ^
This is correct. But, at some point, you would hope that a staff meeting would have revealed this. I mean, firing Nassar was pretty big news - you would think it was mentioned in some staff meeting where a finance guy was also in attendance. You would think the general discussion would include the part that crazy clown guy mentioned - 'hey, maybe we should make sure we're not billing anyone that he abused?'...
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:47 PM ^
The one thing you can be promised on MGoBlog is that any discussion about anything remotely medical will eventually lead to a discussion of HIPAA and what is or is not a violation.
January 22nd, 2018 at 7:12 PM ^
(at least in large numbers) is people speaking ignorantly about HIPPA (pains me to even write it that way).
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:09 PM ^
Just a heads up. The link worked and then sent me to a spam/virus looking page before my laptop closed it.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:16 PM ^
Stop whining, I mean it!
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:19 PM ^
Anybody want a peanut?
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:24 PM ^
You both are just...inconceivable
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:09 PM ^
Flaming hot take: this is a non-story.
Student goes and uses service (beyond what is covered in tuition).
Student is billed accordingly.
Debate amongst yourselves if you feel that MSU should *refund* the student due to MSU's involvement/negligence in this particular situation.
But the initial act of billing is (again, debate amongst yourselves the integrity therein) just how such healthcare systems work.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:21 PM ^
This is obviously a clerical error, so I don't think this really reflects that much on whether MSU "cares" about the entire situation or not. I am quite certain they would not be billing her if they had noticed it.
That being said, you cannot be serious with your take. Student "uses service above and beyong what is covered in tuition." "Service?" If you haven't caught on yet, these girls were essentially being delivered to Nassar so he could abuse them. Your take on this is absolutely ridiculous.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:22 PM ^
If this had been *any other situation* but Nassar, this would be run of the mill "yup, they used service X number of times when they were allowed to use it Y". Shockingly, people are asked to pay the difference.
That's my point.
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:24 PM ^
man, what in THE HELL is your point?
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:59 PM ^
Obviously
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:21 PM ^
Scorching Hottest Fucking Take
Airline's plane crashes, killing a man, and his three kids.
Six months later, Airline automatically contacts the widow to tell her she has lost all her frequent flier miles for not using them fast enough.
This was done automatically. No malice intended.
AIRLINE WOULD STILL BE ABSOLUTELY SLAUGHTERED FOR THIS OVERSIGHT IN THE MEDIA AND BY THEIR CUSTOMERS, AND RIGHTLY SO...
January 22nd, 2018 at 2:57 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:42 PM ^
Right, and your point is.....????
January 22nd, 2018 at 8:47 PM ^