OT: Jourdan Lewis commenting on fighting in hockey
January 8th, 2018 at 11:30 PM ^
That is all.
January 8th, 2018 at 11:29 PM ^
January 8th, 2018 at 11:35 PM ^
Precisely. The enforcer is such a perfect example of a role player in a team sport.
January 8th, 2018 at 11:32 PM ^
Hockey is just objectively a better sport than football.
January 9th, 2018 at 3:43 AM ^
January 9th, 2018 at 12:59 AM ^
January 9th, 2018 at 1:34 AM ^
"Sports have cultures."
This. It was tolerated in the past, and now really isn't. Lewis is off here.
January 9th, 2018 at 9:29 AM ^
Regarding Todd Bertuzzi, if Moore wasn't a chickenshit head hunter that was accountable to the unwritten rules you talk about then that situation wouldn't have ever happened.
Compare and contrast the Wings when they have a player who cannot play anymore, they find a role for him in the organization.
With Moore... the Avs disowned him. The Avs wouldn't even let Moore rehab in their facilities while he was trying to make a comeback. Not saying anyone deserves to have their neck broken but I think that's pretty telling about who Moore is.
January 9th, 2018 at 1:39 AM ^
I do see the arguments made as to how and why fighting in hockey is part of the game, and in a way that did not inform sports like baseball and hoops even when they were majority-white. At the same time, I also see Jourdan Lewis' larger point about a possible double standard between fisticuffs in a majority-white league vs. a majority-black league.
As to the actual question he poses - I think there are many factors that most of you have aptly pointed out and that race-bias is probably low down on the list, but I think that it does have a non-zero role here. And there's also something to be said for explicit vs unintentional racial bias. Maybe I'm right, maybe not. Maybe Lewis is wrong. But again, he's not a stupid or unaware person. And given his perspective as a black man who's likely seen firsthand different standards of treatment for fighting or violent behavior, I see where he's coming from and would suggest others do the same before dismissing him as being an ignorant kid.
January 9th, 2018 at 6:30 AM ^
January 9th, 2018 at 10:20 AM ^
Good point, I don't remember hearing anything about race when Odor threw that haymaker at Bautista. Just two guys settling it on the field which is part of baseball culture.
January 9th, 2018 at 7:00 AM ^
January 9th, 2018 at 11:05 AM ^
For sparring in hockey? No one is saying it's allowed, Jourdan. You gotta stop pretending like your race is always a victim otherwise you can't rise above it and prosper
January 9th, 2018 at 12:19 PM ^