SIAP: CTE May Now Be Diagnosed in the Living
November 16th, 2017 at 12:15 PM ^
I want them to do tests on OJ Simpson. I bet he has CTE
November 16th, 2017 at 12:34 PM ^
hmm why would you think that?
November 16th, 2017 at 12:44 PM ^
would venture a guess that he does. Aside from the, ya know, bursts of homicidal rage, over the years it has occured to me that he does not seem all there. He laughs at inappropriate times, he says things (often in the same sentence) that are inherently inconsistent, he often repeats the same statement over and over (often times he does this with insignificant parts of what he is saying). It may very well be just old-school narcissism, but there is something very amiss about his interactions with other people and his surroundings.
November 16th, 2017 at 12:56 PM ^
I think that is a distinct difference from hhis demeanor when he was in his early college years.
November 16th, 2017 at 2:05 PM ^
he now has to live with that... a living hell for sure..
..makes him batshit crazy
November 16th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^
sociopath, CTE or not.
November 16th, 2017 at 12:58 PM ^
November 16th, 2017 at 1:09 PM ^
CTE doesn't "make" someone do anything, but one of its effects is to render people less capable of making considered decisions. It also essentially disables the mechanisms the brain usually accesses for impulse control.
"Mood changes often involve problems with depression, irritability, loss of motivation, or suicidal thinking or behavior. Behavioral changes are typically seen as problems with impulse control which can lead to aggressive or violent behaviors, or problems with substance abuse."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rj…
November 16th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^
don't think that. But forget the murder for a second (well, don't forget it, but ya know), the robbery for which he was convicted of was really bizarre. He barely knew the people he went into that room with(two of them he met when he entered the casino right before), he had very little knowledge of what was inside that hotel room, nor apparently any idea what he was going to do with it even if he did get it. They had no bags to carry anything with, no pre-arranged transportation out of there. He ended up carrying what he took in a pillow case back to the casino floor(?). His intent there seemed less criminal and more just non-sensical.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:27 PM ^
November 16th, 2017 at 1:00 PM ^
In all seriousness, I would think it's likely. My only anectdotal experience involved a pro-bowl linebacker who historically exhibited the same kind of violent behavior that seems prevalent in the news now for these CTE cases. The guy shows serious wear and tear from playing. But that may very well be incidental. Quite possible these people are already violent to begin with and play more recklessly as a result, thus increasing the likelihood of CTE instead of CTE being the causal factor. Who knows?
November 16th, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^
November 16th, 2017 at 4:01 PM ^
Although, from your avatar photo it would appear this news is too late for your brain to do much good
November 16th, 2017 at 12:19 PM ^
Is your avatar CTE-related?
November 16th, 2017 at 12:20 PM ^
No, buckeye fan related.
hardy har... har..... ok i'll stop.
November 16th, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^
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November 16th, 2017 at 12:36 PM ^
well, only you can judge him
November 16th, 2017 at 12:40 PM ^
You're pretty obsessed with MGoPoints for a "new" poster...
November 16th, 2017 at 1:12 PM ^
It's not that he's "new" -- he is just "here again" after a 2,017 year hiatus.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:13 PM ^
November 16th, 2017 at 1:47 PM ^
November 16th, 2017 at 12:20 PM ^
Wrong link, but I read the article you meant to link this morning.
If this method passes scientific scrutiny, and if a lot of NFL players get checked and diagnosed, this could really be what causes a precipitous decline in football participation.
November 16th, 2017 at 12:38 PM ^
Take it a step further. If this becomes a recognized and accepted test, I would be fairly surprised if CTE scanning doesn't become mandatory for all high school, collegiate and professional football and hockey players, followed by forced retirement for any player with CTE symptoms.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:16 PM ^
Based on what the article says the current test -- which is a brain scan -- is not definitive and needs further testing. The article also says that "definitive" diagnoses of CTE can still only be made after death.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^
You are correct. That's why I wrote "if this becomes a valid and accepted test."
November 16th, 2017 at 12:21 PM ^
I think you posted the wrong link. I'm getting an article on convicted felons and their ability to run for office
November 16th, 2017 at 1:27 PM ^
... there is no in vivo test for CTE. There are likely signals and signs.
Any test would need validation studies. They are a ways out.
November 16th, 2017 at 12:21 PM ^
Link goes to a different article.
November 16th, 2017 at 12:44 PM ^
November 16th, 2017 at 12:57 PM ^
I know the NHL has gone to great deals to cut out fighting, but there are still a lot of head-first checks into the boards. Boxing, MMA, soccer could also be impacted greatly.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:03 PM ^
That's because Bettman is an dope. The game is safer with fighting.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:07 PM ^
It looks like football may stop existing - or become purely a poor man's sport as far as players (it's already headed that way) - in the next 100 years. Many people play it and end up more-or-less fine. But the apparent risk of substantial brain trauma is already high enough to deter a great many parents from letting their kids play. And an ability to detect CTE in living people will likely increase the number of parents who won't let their kids play and cause people who were allowed to play to stop participating.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:07 PM ^
I wonder how much lead notice you'd get of CTE - i.e., if you see the tau build-up and stop playing, are you already in an irreversible situation? It's really intriguing technology, but I'm curious how it would be used both diagnostically and in a preventative fashion.
Optimally, players would get checked on the reg, and those showing tau build-up would exit the game and get better. This sort of technology will answer all sorts of those questions if enough of a sample size of young football players are tested and tracked.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:12 PM ^
November 16th, 2017 at 8:42 PM ^
In the same vein, further off, it won't have been in vain.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:09 PM ^
I would be interested in having the test done on myself. Not only because of years playing football, but all the time I spent banging my head against the wall watching an Al Borges offense.
November 16th, 2017 at 3:44 PM ^
IKR? I'm sure my drinking and violent mood swings have nothing to do with that at all...
November 16th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^
depending of course on many factors, but you could go from 60 to 0 in one season. no more kids playing, h.s. maybe finishes out with the players it has, colleges too, then done.
accuracy, sensitivity, control for other factors all important. and conceivably it could be a game-breaker in terms of giving an 'all clear' to many concerned players and/or their families, but i think that's a long-shot.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:46 PM ^
sucks to think about. Basically every Friday night I go to a high school football game, just because. I pick a good game in the area, go and sit on the visitors side and just take in the game. Football games are awesome. I would really hate to see it end.
November 16th, 2017 at 2:43 PM ^
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November 16th, 2017 at 2:08 PM ^
this will catch up with you and then
you'll crap in your bed, daily.... go get checked out NOW !!
November 16th, 2017 at 2:14 PM ^
I think you are looking for the Friday posbang thread.
November 16th, 2017 at 4:46 PM ^
Shane Morris? Is that you?
November 16th, 2017 at 2:16 PM ^
If it is predictive, with the marker as an indicator, it could save football. Those tha have it, can't play. Those that don't, can play without worry of CTE
November 16th, 2017 at 2:27 PM ^
This is the list of sports I immediately thought of that could easily be impacted:
Football, soccer, hockey, boxing, MMA
It's too early to tell what the outcome of this will be but these could be some of the changes:
Soccer (no more using your head, basically the game remains the same)
Hockey (no more checking into the boards, basically the game remains the same - not sure about goalies and hits to the head)
Football would require significant changes but could continue to exist (in essence, highly evolved flag football with the focus on execution, play calling and speed instead of phsycality)
Boxing & MMA could disappear. Yes you could institute a no punching/kicking to the head rule, but I'm not sure many fans would stick around for that.