Chris Balas on Brandon Peters: "There are recruiting mistakes, and this appears to have been a big one."
October 15th, 2017 at 8:07 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 10:03 AM ^
due to politics being played on the Iowa roster is a "win" now?
I think this staff helped Rudock acheive his potential, but it's not like they molded him from clay.
October 15th, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
left AA so much better as a QB than what he was when he arrived.
Though only the coaches can know, it is possible that O'Korn is also much better than he was 12 months ago.
JOK arrived with a decent arm and decent accuracy. He throws on the run better than Speight.
But he played in a different type of offense at UH. His skills for the rest of the QB job were unknown/undeveloped when he arrived. Still not great, but possibly better at this part of the QB position than 12 months ago.
October 15th, 2017 at 11:25 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 11:44 AM ^
I miss Jake.
October 15th, 2017 at 9:29 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 1:02 PM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 9:43 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 12:27 PM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 12:51 PM ^
That doesn't count as a whiff. Every single guy on this board loved the film from Houston.
October 15th, 2017 at 1:50 PM ^
i wouldnt really call gentry a whiff, he never really had a shot at qb. not long after he got here and the depth chart was taking shape at the qb spot he was asked to move. i would say that a highly rated qb who comes to michigan late in the process b/c of jim harbaugh then is willing to take one for the team and move to a new position, change his body, and mindset for the better of the team is a win
October 15th, 2017 at 7:55 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 7:56 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 8:01 AM ^
It doesn't make sense Harbaugh's QB's would all perform this poorly all year but here we are.
October 15th, 2017 at 8:41 AM ^
So, if a player doesn't have the talent of Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck, then Harbaugh sucks as a coach? Got it! Thanks for the insight!!!
October 15th, 2017 at 7:47 PM ^
This is a dumb response. You are comparing 2 elite NFL QBs to our current tire fire at QB. He, or she, is right. This situation does not make sense considering Jim Freakin Harbaugh is our coach.
October 15th, 2017 at 9:49 AM ^
Harbaugh is the one who said Peters reminds him of Andrew Luck. So what if he is quiet. I am sure he is loud enough to call plays or the team would false start on every play. Wasn't he like #5 QB in the country?. I would think he did quite well in high school. I am willing to bet a lot on here are questioning Harbaugh on this one.
October 15th, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^
Hawt Take! Might wanna re-read Maizen's post!
October 15th, 2017 at 9:33 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^
Bullshit.
JOK seemed like a fantastic pickup. A kid Fisch knew, he'd played and was freshman of the year in his conference.
We were ALL excited to have him as the "floor" in case things didn't work out.
None of us, including the coaches could've know how low the floor really was. But he's gone after this year. You act like that 1 scholarship is keeping Michigan from winning.
Like we had the change to get Jacob Eason, but instead we chose John O'Korn.
Give me a break.
October 15th, 2017 at 12:43 PM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^
rudock was going to play his final year while o'korn had to sit out per the transfer rule. the one had nothing to do with the other
October 15th, 2017 at 7:56 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 8:02 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 8:14 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 9:12 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 12:29 PM ^
Throughout Gameday Rece Davis was saying he may get snaps during the IU game.
It doesn't sound like he's transferring. They showed him yesterday during Gameday warming up more than any other player.
October 15th, 2017 at 8:01 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 8:02 AM ^
Given the QB play this year, I'd say that's a pretty telling fact.
October 15th, 2017 at 9:45 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 10:21 AM ^
I'm a douchebag because I'm commenting in the comment section of a blog?
Go jump off a bridge.
October 15th, 2017 at 8:01 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 8:02 AM ^
I honestly have no idea. We complained about Speight and got O'Korn. In hindsight the coaches were right about Speight being the best option on the roster. There has to be a reason the coaches won't play Peters. Personally, I'd rather see the young guy. Maybe something clicks and he grows into the position. I just can't imagine it being worse than yesterday even if we have to simplify things on offense.
October 15th, 2017 at 8:18 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 8:04 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 8:15 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 8:21 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
was surrounded by experience and talent when he started as a freshman. 2017 Michigan offense is super young.
October 15th, 2017 at 12:31 PM ^
Put Braylon, Jake Long and Mike Hart on this team...and shit, I will start at QB and look better than John O'Korn.
October 15th, 2017 at 12:57 PM ^
Put Braylon, Jake Long, and Mike Hart on this team and O'Korn probably looks a lot better than the O'Korn we saw yesterday.
QB is an important position, but they don't operate in a vacuum. You can make the most perfect throws in the world, and it doesn't mean anything if it clanks off your receiver's hands and isn't caught.
I realize our receivers are young, but I'm equally as concerned by their inability to hang onto catchable balls than I am by the QB issues.
As for "Why not start Peters? He has more upside!", well, possibly, but if he gets injured because our O-Line can't pass protect, then maybe having him not play this season, and wait until next year, when the O-Line is better, might have more long-term upside.
October 15th, 2017 at 8:23 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 9:44 AM ^
Based on the results so far, maybe we shouldn't either....
October 15th, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^
that offense did lead the Big Ten and set a Michigan record for points per game in 2016, so....
The problem is lackluster QB play (plus o-line still not there yet), not the type of offense. Any type of offense is terrible if the QB is playing poorly.
October 15th, 2017 at 9:46 AM ^
October 15th, 2017 at 11:13 AM ^
Georgia has Nick Chubb and 5* Sony Michel at RB. 5* Isaac Nauta and Blazevich at TE. 5* Mecole Hardman in the slot. If MIchigan had that talent, whoever played QB would look a lot better than what they currently look like.
October 15th, 2017 at 12:22 PM ^
Or you can watch those two QBs and know that they are talented themselves. It's not because they have so much more talent than us that those two are doing so well. Give that a rest. Fromm and Eason are just really good. It's okay to play freshman if they are talented. There are freshman all over the country starting.
October 15th, 2017 at 5:00 PM ^
all that talent plus their o line is playing overtly well. then you watch the games and they are sending running backs to the open side of the field they make one defender miss and they are gone to the endzone. it happens multiple times versus mizzou, who is terrible but it still shows that with talent you can overcome some of the other downfalls on the team.
October 15th, 2017 at 1:18 PM ^
Enough with "other schools have young QBs playing great!" line. It's a simplistic observation that offers no context or analysis. "Josh Jackson is GREAT!" the dude plays in a simplistic read-option offense where he looks at the sideline every fucking play to get the call and he only has 1-2 reads and just takes off. It looks great against the overmatched and gets waxed by anyone with a pulse.
"Sam Darnold!!" Sam Darnold had a stud WR (Juju Smith), a stud RB (Ronald Jones) and a veteran O-Line last year. This year, he got Jones back, but the other pieces left and now he has been STRUGGLING all year (4:3 TD:Int Ratio).
"Jacob Fromm!!" I love this one! This guy has two elite, bellcow running backs and only throws ~20 passes a game for 100 - 150 ypg.
In conclusion: When a young QB gets the start and plays well, there are usually elite RBs, WRs, and O-lines (or at least 2/3). Michigan does not have any of these things (though Higdon and the O-line were VERY good today).
Michigan runs a complex, pro-style offense with multiple formations, reads, checks, and so forth. The reason they do this is because when this offense is executed properly, it is an absolute nightmare for college defenses to stop. But the drawback is that, yes, it takes a long time to install and learn. And JH clearly has made the decision to not simplify things any more than he already has. This is similar to Don Brown saying that he isn't just going to lay down and be in Quarters coverage because it's easy to learn; he'd rather die. And I agree with this sentiment. Crafting an overly simplified scheme that goes against what the coaches want is simply bolstering up short term gains that don't mean much (do you really think that approach is going to get us to the B1G Championship and National Title?) by sacrificing long term offensive development and stability. You want this young team to keep increasing their capabilities within Jim's offensive system. And that means yes, 2017 may in fact be a developmental year rather than a contending year. But this developmental year is setting up better years to come, and it will still be better than ANY Rich Rod year and better than 3/4 Hoke years.
Seriously, this blog has turned into a fucking cesspool the last week with all these know-nothing, arm chair coaches acting like they're Bill Belichick. If you idiots want to live through 2008-2014 again, by all means, demand changes willy-nilly with no thought and a rudimentary understanding of the facts. Us sane people will understand that there are no easy fixes, and will continue deferring to a coach who has literally turned chicken shit into chicken salad EVERYWHERE he has gone.
October 15th, 2017 at 3:16 PM ^