OT: Best pricing on a new Ford
August 18th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^
Lied to get a "fair" price. I found this comment funny.
August 18th, 2017 at 3:45 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 4:00 PM ^
Being in sales myself, I would not hand over a written offer so that someone can shop me. A car salesman especially doesn't want you walking away without closing the deal, if at all possible. A strong sales person would overcome that objection on the spot and used to their advantage the info that "it is an inconvenience to go down the street." Buyers are liars.
However, it is always smart to use that type of leverage as a buyer, even if it is fabricated.
August 18th, 2017 at 4:20 PM ^
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August 18th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 5:11 PM ^
FORD backwards means: Driver Returns On Foot
August 18th, 2017 at 5:17 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 5:30 PM ^
Found On Road Dead
August 18th, 2017 at 11:32 PM ^
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August 19th, 2017 at 6:48 AM ^
August 19th, 2017 at 3:25 PM ^
August 19th, 2017 at 6:08 PM ^
I remember that commercial.
August 19th, 2017 at 10:33 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^
If you can wait another 4 months, buy it at the end of December. No one buys cars in December, so it's slow and dealers will be willing to cut a deal. More importantly, new models come out in September, and by December the dealers are itching to get the last of the past year's models off the lot. (This does mean selection of previous models will be poor, so if you're picky about certain options (or paint color!) then this may not be the best approach for you.) And they're extra motivated to do this before January 1st, because there are various license taxes they may have to pay otherwise (though this detail may be heavily dependent on details in your state).
August 18th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 10:38 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 3:26 PM ^
Many car dealerships have Black Friday sales. It's always best to wait for Black Friday for large purchases unless absolutely needed.
August 18th, 2017 at 5:32 PM ^
This is hella incorrect. December is always one of the biggest months for car sales, sometimes the biggest of the year. Are there deals in December? Yes, Christmas deals, ones which they're happy to offer but won't walk down from because someone else will take it.
If you think you can get a better deal by waiting for a slow month, January is the one to wait for.
Source: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2012/10/usa-auto-industry-total-sales-figu…
August 18th, 2017 at 5:45 PM ^
To add to this: I have a friend who is a manager at a dealership. I once asked, do people really buy cars for Christmas? Those ads with bows on the cars don't reflect a lot of reality, do they? Oh yes they do, he said. All. The. Time. And dealerships, or his at least, honor a lot of requests to do things like hide the car til December 25, or stick a bow on it, or whatever the customer wants in order to keep it a surprise. They're busy little bees in December, absolutely.
August 18th, 2017 at 5:35 PM ^
My own personal experience has been different.
Living in Los Angeles, the end of the year is bonkers with people buying new cars. Dealers have told me that people are trying to squeeze purchases in before New Years in order to take advantage of tax writeoffs - either as a business expense or the sales tax writeoff for individual filing. I think you get to count the depreciation as well...although I am not a tax expert!
Yes, dealers are also trying to meet year-end sales goals, but out here, shopping for a car is high-stress in the week between Christmas and January 1st.
Perhaps things are different when it is -20 degrees in late December.
EDIT: Agree with Wahoo.
August 18th, 2017 at 7:02 PM ^
Tell them you are not going to trade in your car. Then after you reach agreement, BAM you tell them you have a trade in and then you make them pay bluebook retail for your trade in.
If you are able to do this, you will basically get the car for free because they need to meet their quota for the month but at the same time the want to get home to their families before the rain gets worse.
August 18th, 2017 at 10:00 PM ^
August 19th, 2017 at 10:57 AM ^
As someone that has worked in the retail auto business for 14 yrs, I can tell you that if you come in an hour before close that 9 times out of 10 we are going to make money on you. We've already worked 9 hours at that point and aren't going to work another 3 hrs without getting paid.
Also nobody is going to sell you a new car at wholesale and pay you retail for yours. Doesn't work that way. If you want retail for yours then you are going to pay retail for mine.
August 18th, 2017 at 3:21 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 3:53 PM ^
What wage did Tressel have the booster/owner pay you?
August 18th, 2017 at 5:23 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 5:46 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 3:25 PM ^
Buy a used car with a clean carfax with like 15,000 miles on it and just about 2 years old. You'll save about 25% to 33% off what a new one would cost.
...or you could passively agressively troll Mgoblog for a Ford Friends and Family discount. Jusk ask for one man.
August 18th, 2017 at 3:27 PM ^
I'll never purchase a used car. Buying new assures I know the vehicle's history down the road.
August 18th, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^
Oigh. The depreciation charge makes me sad on new vehicles. My 15yr old BMW with a little TLC has a stupid low cost per mile and is a great ride.
Learning to work on a car is the best thing I ever did. Saves tons of money and I never feel cheated by people I always feel cheated by (right or wrong).
August 18th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
Reminds me of a saying: "Linux is only free if your time is worthless"
August 18th, 2017 at 4:39 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 3:57 PM ^
And that you're driving a car that has lost a significant portion of its value the second you turned the ignition for the first time. Dumb.
August 18th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 5:38 PM ^
Talk with the brother-in-law again. Or have your wife (or sister) do it, however you're related. Brother-in-law is A Plan eligible. You cannot do better than A Plan. You get the car for basically the wholesale price. The only thing left to do after that is look for 0% financing if you qualify.
August 18th, 2017 at 6:03 PM ^
August 18th, 2017 at 5:58 PM ^
I just bought an Expedition for the MGoWife a few weeks ago. It was a 2017 and was $15k below MSRP. There seemed to be lots of rebates on the 2017's as the 2018's are about to be rolled out. I looked at a few dealerships and the prices and rebates were all fairly consistent.
August 19th, 2017 at 10:58 AM ^
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August 18th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
This is great advice. Even with the A-Plan, it may be better to buy a used but newish model. Many Ford models depreciate rapidly, so you can get a great deal on a vehicle that is either Certified Pre-Owned or still under the original warranty.
August 18th, 2017 at 9:20 PM ^
Buy the car you can afford and all that but 0%//72mo is pretty hard to argue with.
I'm assuming more so since OP said they are looking for a larger vehicle which in todays parlance means crossover/SUV. Have you looked at the prices of used Escape/Edge/Explorers lately? If you can find the right deal then buying new makes sense in a lot of cases with rates where they are at.
August 19th, 2017 at 12:23 AM ^
Except that is SIX YEARS. I get it, free money yada yada yada, but who actually takes advantage of that and does something with that extra money to make it grow? Pretty much no one. The payment thing is a slow drip to poverty... All of your present money owed to past debts. Not a fun way to live. I decided to get out of that game. Paid of my nicer car, bought a cheap car, let the fiancee drive the nice car and sold her car (she was upside down on.... 72mo, got the gap insurance which only put her further in the hole).
I am on the "Dave Ramsey plan". I will admit, it is not for everyone (and I don't always agree with his investment advice and usage of a credit card), but outside of utility bills and mortgage every month, zero payments is pretty sweet.
August 18th, 2017 at 3:28 PM ^
A Plan/Z Plan. Duh.