Auston Robertson Was Whistleblower in Alleged MSU Football Assault
Auston Robertston (Yes, that Auston Robertson) was the player who told Mark Dantonio about the alleged sexual assaults involving three Michigan State football.
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2017/06/msu_trustee_auston_robe…
You may recall, Robertson has since been kicked off the team for a separate sexual assault that occurred while the initial investigation was underway. Here is the link to that story from April.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2017/…
- So to recap, Robertson was present for two different alleged sexual assualts in Spring semester
- Understood that the first alleged assault was wrong but then assaulted a girl months later anyway (while his girlfriend waited in the car)
Update: MSU Trustee says he mispoke. Although people on this board implicated Robertson months ago. I wonder if anyone can FOIA who Dantonio met with on the 16th by checking his emails and or calendar.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state-universi…
I am telling you, yesterday created far more questions than it answered. The coordinated rollout of the MSU news the last 48 hours was really odd. The news of the "who" and the "what" of the alleged incident took the headlines away from the "how" and "why" the news was being presented in the fashion that it was.
They announced three football players were kicked off the team and going to be tried for a serious sexual assault, and the Nassar investigation is still on-going, but yet Dantonio and Hollis were given the "full support" by the Board of Trustees? How could that possibly be said at this point by anybody? And now it comes out that the kid who reported the assault was kicked off the team, while the assault was being investigated, for an assault that happenned three months later? Huh? This is still not adding up people.
Anybody so inclined should read Pat Caputo's article in the Oakland Press yesterday for some really good insight and perspective. I, for one, don't believe that yesterday was the "end" of anything for MSU, nor did I see anything "transparent" about it.
Are actually halfway decent.
And then you hear him talk.
Yeah, I was surprised at how coherent the article was. He writes far better than you would think after listening to him on the radio.
....agreed, listening to pat caputo is nothing short of....
There is a lot more to this than two seperate sexual assault incidents obviously. If it was reported to Dantonio by Robertson who did Dantonio report it too and did he follow the proper protocol. The first incident set a lot of other stuff into motion that we really don't know of just yet that is for sure. There is something really wrong going on and you can just feel it. I really hope the prosecutors office gets it right and exposes all wrong doers.
So let this sink in Dantonio. Robertson was kicked off the team for sexual assault and will likely testify against his former teammates who were just kicked off the team for sexual assault. Expert witness?
Also, this is why his teammates were hunting him down. Not only because Robertson assaulted a teammates girlfriend, but for turning these three in!
I think you mean "key" witness, and if he can testify that any of the three told him what they did, that would be key indeed.
However, if he pleads to a felony before this goes to trial (assuming it does, and these usually do not), then his conviction could be used in court as evidence of his character.
I think what he meant by expert witness is that Robertson has experience in assault himself and therefore can testify as an expert witness.
Snitches get stiches
Hollis announced some changes, assigning three people to the football program:
Alan Haller, who played in the NFL and was a Lansing police officer.
Jennifer Smith, the compliance director at MSU.
Elliott Daniels, from academics.
“The three of them are going to turn over every rock,” Hollis said, later. “They have my authority. They can make change. It’s not about X’s and O’s or football. It’s about life. It’s about structure.”
Went to Highschool with Alan Haller though he was a couple of years older. He's a standup guy (and really really fast.)
than fiction at this point
I agree with the spirit of this but a bit inaccurate, I believe. UM's Title IX compliance had nothing to do with Dave Brandon. It was a school thing. And the school is a good school that complied properly because it wanted to avoid a culture problem. Proud of that. And we suspect MSU did not follow properly, although they are keeping that secret by turning down FOIA requests for the federal report of a few years ago. Anyway, we are aligned and I would love to hear form an mgolawyer as well.
I feel there are three different options here:
1. Player is dumber than shit and also a peice of shit which we sort of already knew
2. Trustee got the name wrong.
3. Maybe he was the scapegoat because he was already being kicked off the team at the time of the investigation. Since details of the player's report didn't name said player maybe it was easier to protect an existing teammate? Still Corley/Vance/King would know who was there or who wasn't.
Just amazing how this all went down!
It's just one of those things that needed to be behind a paywall first.
At a certain point in threads, does anyone else just ctrl + F and search the username umbig11?
I find it's like reheating a refrigerated burger from a cookout- the fat melts off and you're just left with the good stuff.
Snitches get stitches.
Did anybody ever tell you that you're just too fun?
Doesn't matter who's daughter or any other relation. Sexual violence/abuse is unacceptable.
I think the society (i.e., we) should stop pulling the "if it was your daughter/sister/etc." card. Abusing another human being is unacceptable.
I know. I had been that guy in the past. :(
Trying to look at things from different perspectives. Succeed at times.
It has become more and more clear to me that when someone says "Imagine that was your daughter/sister/wife/etc..." it's effective, but there's often something pretty fucked up about it. I won't say why because I think it hits pretty close to the "no politics" rule, but I think you can figure it out.
Now I am curious. What are you talking about?
"You can do anything you want. Grab 'em by...."
OK, so to thicken the plot a bit...
I read a story/rumor about how a group of MSU football players were out looking for Auston to beat his ass, and this was (allegedly) because of the (alleged) sexual assault Robertson had commited. When he ran to Indiana, so the story goes, it was not to avoid arrest, but to avoid his own teammates and their wrath.
What if - and stay with me on this - he was actually running away from these guys because they had found out he was the "rat" and wanted revenge for that, not the alleged sexual assault of a teammates girflriend?
Or what if - and WARNING, this is 100% baseless speculation - there is even a deeper back story to the accusation against him for his own sexual assault case? I wonder if his accuser was the girlfriend of one of Corley, King or Vance??
In other words, these things are at least superficially no longer disconnected, isolated events, and I'll bet there is A LOT more to this story.
The common rumor of a player sleeping with another player's girlfriend is way overused. There were rumblings about this with the Reschke incident, as well as previous incidents with MSU athletics, Syracuse basketball, the Cleveland Cavaliers (Lebron's Mom). I think this is a bad road to go down.
In this case, I remembered where I read this. It was here on MGoBlog, and was reported by noted MSU insider UMBig11: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/siap-msu-fb-player-auston-robertson-run-pol…. Since he seems to know more about the MSU program than Dantonio does, I tend to think Robertson really may have assaulted a teammates gf??
The Reschke incident did happen because a teammate slept with his girlfriend. Also, a few years ago, Korie Lucious was banging Kalin Lucas's girlfriend which is why he was forced to transfer.
the problems coming out of EL are somehow worse than expected - which is nearly impossible because we were expecting this to be really, really bad (heinous was the word used a few months ago).
At this point, not only do you have the actual assaults themselves but this bizarre situation of the whistleblower subequently assaulting a teammates' girlfriend and running out of fear of his teammates. As FauxMo points out: was he running due to fear of retribution due to his own assault or was he in fear of retribution for ratting out the other 3? Are these events (the whistleblowing and then subsequent assault) really a conincidence? I seriously can't wrap my head around this.
On top of all that, you have players fleeing the ship seemingly every week now - who could blame them? I wouldn't want to be in the middle of a situation like this.
As much as I would like UM to crush Sparty year in and year out between the lines, I don't want to see this situation devolve into a full meltdown. It's not good for the state of Michigan, it's not good for the B1G and it is seriously bad for college football generally.
If these football team situations keep popping up, you will soon start seeing the politicians start to get involved - not good!
I wonder what Malik McDowell's Mom thinks?
That she was right?
She didn't want him going to that shithole.
My guess is "Gee, I was right. MSU is a total shithole and my son should've gone to Ann Arbor."
Now I hate Mark Dantonio as much as the next Michigan fan but God in Heaven can you imagine what life must've been like for him over the past several months every time somebody said "hey coach I need to talk to you about something"
I would not want to have been his dog when he got home from work.