Michigan ranked 23rd in Final AP Poll
http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll
Cool that we get to end the season ranked but obviously pretty irrelevant at this point.
if we can bump up to a 6 seed then
objection....Overruled.
Let's see . . . 23 divided by 4 equals . . . 5.75.
Yep, it's a no brainer. 6 seed.
I guess the committee must have been looking at an old AP poll that had us ranked 28th.
you used simple division, they were obviously using Common Core math
Maryland a 6 and they don't even have a SINGLE vote in the final poll
Just a weak, bad man.
Creighton unranked but they're a 6 seed. Minnesota unranked and a 5 seed. Yep.
Don't play any brackets for money this year.
Middle Tennessee State, a #12 seed, got more votes than #5 seed Minnesota - their first round opponent in the tourney.
Will always have a soft spot in my heart for MTSU...
than the first poll.
Also, I see that we are the second best team in the B1G and we beat the best team twice.
Yeah, but we'd kick the shit out of Purdue in football!
Honestly depressing that this poll did a better job putting the best teams in order than the fucking selection committee did. And further proof that Michigan should be a 6 and Creighton, Minnesota, and Maryland are all laughably over seeded
Oh wait, my math is off. How does 19-14 get you a 9 seed? Oh, that's right your AD runs the tournament.
Did you even watch Sparty this year?
Sparty finished the regular season #43 on KenPom and #51 by RPI. There is no metric in existence that ranks them among the top 36 teams.
Why do you want to defend them so badly? Is it that you don't want to believe that ADs on the committee can have undue influence, so you're trying to rationalize their seed? I can see them being in the field of 68, but a 9 seed is crazy.
Middle Tennessee State would like a word with you. They already had their talk with MSU last year.
This is the most impressive non-Bolivia-worthy hole digging that I've seen on the board in a long time.
March 14th, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
last year in the first round. Let's understand something, the Spartans are where they are in this field because of reputation and their AD is the tournament director. I mean if you believe that losses to Top 10 teams and one seeds are the yellow brick road to the tournament, then why doesn't eveyone do it? Because wins count more than losses regardless of when you play, or it used to. Who knows what it means anymore? And if you don't spell out the criteria then what does it matter how many games you win as a small conference or at-large school?
Izzo plus his past tournament record and early season schedule are what annointed their team for tournament entry. But it shouldn't have led to a 9 seed line. Michigan had it won only once even under the circumstances of their arrival in BTT play, would have been penalized for not getting farther, I am convinced of that. The seeds were already set after the Spartans lost. And guess what, had they won the tournament, they would definitely have gotten that 5 seed that Minnesota was given. No doubt in my mind.
Do You Even Sparty, brah?
I don't think I've ever seen a 14-loss team (major conference or not) get a single-digit seed before.
That might count for something if they won a single one of those games.
Seriously, the only team they beat was Wichita State, who's good but not to the committee apparently since they got a 10 seed. If teams are going to be rewarded for scheduling tough but not winning a single tough game, Michigan should just schedule the entire preseason 25 in the non-con. They don't have to win them, just play them apparently.
MSU didn't schedule that game against UNC -- it was part of the Big Ten/ACC Challenge.
And they lost, at home, by 14.
Now I really don't think you watched them play this year.
Losing to Kentucky means more than beating up on Northern Kentucky.
Neither of those should matter much. I don't remember anyone bragging about how we played, and lost, to UCLA.
Losing to Kentucky means you're not a top 4 team, beating Northern Kentucky means you're a top 147 team, so one eliminates 4 spaces, the other eliminates 204, in that sense beating Northern Kentucky means a whole helluva lot more than Losing to Kentucky. Anyone can schedule Kentucky and lose to them. MSU would have a syracuse RPI if they replaced all those good teams with cupcakes and would be out of the tournament.
March 14th, 2017 at 10:42 AM ^
They finished where they finished because that's the level team they are. You are how you play and finish. They should have lost at home to Florida Gulf State. A couple calls and clock management in that game, and it's an embarrassing home loss. Izzo wins at least two or three games each year just by his incessant whining at officials. You can tell when he or Coach K thinks their team is inferior because they fight harder for any edge to win a game and challenge calls especially against lesser competition, which then does impact tournament consideration later. That 9th seed was a total gift for Mark Hollis, not that it will mean much in the long run.
That's a strange hill to die on there, jonny.
a probably here. They lost to Northeastern, beat Oral Roberts by 4, Florida Gulf Coast by 1, Wichita State by 5, and then went 10-8 in conference play with two of those wins being against ranked teams.
Michigan started 14-9 and then went 10-2 to finish the season, winning their last five. They garnered six victories over Tournament teams (Purdue x2, Wisconsin x2, Minnesota, MSU).
MSU started 14-9 and went 5-5 to finish the season, losing three of their last four. They defeated exactly one NCAA Tournament team in that stretch (Wisconsin at home).
in January and how far they have come, I think that's a fair ranking. We'll just make it #1 in about 3 weekends!
WIN THE WHOLE ...
oh you know how it goes.
Great avatar/name
LET IT TURN TO SOMETHING ELSE
Bastards!